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New MBP Owners (since 8/13/07), Do You Have The Bottom 3rd Yellowing Issue?
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Samsung with uneven backlight ?
i have got my replaced lcd with samsung again( still yellowing) . when i first
turn it on, i recognized the color is not as the same as my pervious samsung,
under the black or dark background, the right side of the screen looks more
bright, all the colors on lift side is slighterly warmer then on the right side,
How did you guys check if your screen has the backlight bleeding ? i
can see mine with little different brightness between left and right.
I am considering do a second repair, at this time i should call apple first or
go to the store( since they have ask me to check when they finished the
repaired and i said it was ok(since i think i can live with the yellowing
after the wait of 3 weeks. But now it's yewllowing + uneven backlight on a
samsung.
i have got my replaced lcd with samsung again( still yellowing) . when i first
turn it on, i recognized the color is not as the same as my pervious samsung,
under the black or dark background, the right side of the screen looks more
bright, all the colors on lift side is slighterly warmer then on the right side,
How did you guys check if your screen has the backlight bleeding ? i
can see mine with little different brightness between left and right.
I am considering do a second repair, at this time i should call apple first or
go to the store( since they have ask me to check when they finished the
repaired and i said it was ok(since i think i can live with the yellowing
after the wait of 3 weeks. But now it's yewllowing + uneven backlight on a
samsung.
Got replacement #2 today, and it is an LG. BUT it has yellowing? well, that's not a question, it does have it. but nowhere near as bad as the first 2 samsungs. it's not all unevenly lit and sparkly at the bottom. the yellow is less noticeable so i think im just going to keep it. only bothers me on some websites slightly (like google.com). i don't want to wait anymore. so it took almost 2 months to get it, and now i get leopard for $10 because the replacement went through OCt. 3rd. i guess that's worth something. all in all, my first experience with apple has not been to great.
Anyone else has a samsung with uneven backlight ?
I went to the store today and talked to the genius again, he can easily
notice the yellowing and backlight issues with my screen this time. Since he
saw a lot of these after i first showed him my first yellowing samsung
screen. He is willing to help me to order another repair but he told me
honestly, AS LAST TIME THE APPLE technician told him regarding my
yellowing screen, apple aware of it and they are far being fix it, what them
can do is keep sending out the replacement as customer requested and
there won't be any guarantee improvement. Its like a lottery. At the end,
he has suggested me to wait for one or two months until apple did fix this
issue and he will be happy to help me to request a repair screen. I took his
advice and will keep checking out this form.
It did really become a gambling game, as i got a worse samsung with wash out color, uneven backlight on bottom and right side of the screen plus the yellowing. Who doesnt want to get a perfect screen? Yellowing is not the worse thing here. Anyone who also has a samsung with bad color quality and uneven backlight?
I went to the store today and talked to the genius again, he can easily
notice the yellowing and backlight issues with my screen this time. Since he
saw a lot of these after i first showed him my first yellowing samsung
screen. He is willing to help me to order another repair but he told me
honestly, AS LAST TIME THE APPLE technician told him regarding my
yellowing screen, apple aware of it and they are far being fix it, what them
can do is keep sending out the replacement as customer requested and
there won't be any guarantee improvement. Its like a lottery. At the end,
he has suggested me to wait for one or two months until apple did fix this
issue and he will be happy to help me to request a repair screen. I took his
advice and will keep checking out this form.
It did really become a gambling game, as i got a worse samsung with wash out color, uneven backlight on bottom and right side of the screen plus the yellowing. Who doesnt want to get a perfect screen? Yellowing is not the worse thing here. Anyone who also has a samsung with bad color quality and uneven backlight?
It seems like a lottery with the new screens,
obviously at this point in time- they know about the issue it has been ongoing since june thats just a bit over 4 months...
I was reading about how samsung will be introducing
http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/samsungs-white-led-backlit-display-for-2008-10k-1-contrast-for/
white led back lit displays as they are currently using yellow- Im not too familiar with the technology but thats what I can say...
anyhow point is, if you get one that is balanced, non yellowing or has no backlight bleeding your lucky
I'd rather have very mild yellowing than backlight bleed or a washed out screen...
what can I say.
As a new apple customer, Im very confused.
obviously at this point in time- they know about the issue it has been ongoing since june thats just a bit over 4 months...
I was reading about how samsung will be introducing
http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/samsungs-white-led-backlit-display-for-2008-10k-1-contrast-for/
white led back lit displays as they are currently using yellow- Im not too familiar with the technology but thats what I can say...
anyhow point is, if you get one that is balanced, non yellowing or has no backlight bleeding your lucky
I'd rather have very mild yellowing than backlight bleed or a washed out screen...
what can I say.
As a new apple customer, Im very confused.
Replacement also has the botton 3rd yellowing issue
MacHiavelli: No, the 17" displays do not have this problem because they are not LED displays.
I just received my replacement MBP and it also has the 1/3 Yellowing Issue
(even worse than the first MBP). The replacement is a week 39 Samsung display. Called the (german) Apple Online store and told them about the problem. They couldn't really help me ("We can send you another one?!"). GREAT! Let us continue playing this lottery game. I am fed up with this display issue. I am now getting my money back. Maybe I will come back later when this issue is finally fixed! Too bad that my first Apple experience was not a good one. I chose Apple because of their "quality" laptops. Sorry to say it, but I feel that -concerning the new LED MBPs- it was the wrong decision.
MacHiavelli: No, the 17" displays do not have this problem because they are not LED displays.
I just received my replacement MBP and it also has the 1/3 Yellowing Issue
(even worse than the first MBP). The replacement is a week 39 Samsung display. Called the (german) Apple Online store and told them about the problem. They couldn't really help me ("We can send you another one?!"). GREAT! Let us continue playing this lottery game. I am fed up with this display issue. I am now getting my money back. Maybe I will come back later when this issue is finally fixed! Too bad that my first Apple experience was not a good one. I chose Apple because of their "quality" laptops. Sorry to say it, but I feel that -concerning the new LED MBPs- it was the wrong decision.
Arrived 3 weeks ago:
2.2Ghz SR macbook pro. matte 9c68 samsung display. yellowing bottom 1/3. took back to apple store and is being fixed.
my colleague has same machine (arrived 2 weeks later). glossy 9c67 LG panel. No probs.
will report back
2.2Ghz SR macbook pro. matte 9c68 samsung display. yellowing bottom 1/3. took back to apple store and is being fixed.
my colleague has same machine (arrived 2 weeks later). glossy 9c67 LG panel. No probs.
will report back
LG owners, are you sure there is absolutely no yellowing at all on the bottom? because my LG still has a bit of yellow, but nowhere near as bad as my last 2 samsungs. there is no backlight inconsistencies and it doesn't look all wavy. also it isn't really sparkly on the bottom.
the problem is definitely more obvious with lower brightness. with max brightness it is almost perfect. i have to try really hard to notice it then. i can really only see it on the squares picture or on a totally white screen.
maybe i am just really sensitive to this, or i am just so incredibly unlucky that when i finally got an LG it also has the problem? maybe i just have to get used to white webpages looking a bit creamy?
it's probably because i'm coming from an incredible Sony trinitron CRT that i've used for 10 years now.... i haven't seen a display that's looked better. i just have high standards I guess...
anyway, i think it is acceptable, but i just don't know.....
oh yeah, and it did come really really washed out, but i used supercal to calibrate it, and the colors look so much better and richer. if anyone has the washed out problem with their LG, definitely get supercal.
the problem is definitely more obvious with lower brightness. with max brightness it is almost perfect. i have to try really hard to notice it then. i can really only see it on the squares picture or on a totally white screen.
maybe i am just really sensitive to this, or i am just so incredibly unlucky that when i finally got an LG it also has the problem? maybe i just have to get used to white webpages looking a bit creamy?
it's probably because i'm coming from an incredible Sony trinitron CRT that i've used for 10 years now.... i haven't seen a display that's looked better. i just have high standards I guess...
anyway, i think it is acceptable, but i just don't know.....
oh yeah, and it did come really really washed out, but i used supercal to calibrate it, and the colors look so much better and richer. if anyone has the washed out problem with their LG, definitely get supercal.
MacHiavelli: No, the 17" displays do not have this problem because they are not LED displays.
I just received my replacement MBP and it also has the 1/3 Yellowing Issue
Many thanks for the info. Hope your prob gets sorted out PDQ.
Well I've ordered my 2.4ghz 15 Inch MBP...
Lets hope everything is ok
8 days and counting to delivery
Lets hope everything is ok
8 days and counting to delivery
what week is your MBpro manufactured?LG owners, are you sure there is absolutely no yellowing at all on the bottom? because my LG still has a bit of yellow, but nowhere near as bad as my last 2 samsungs. there is no backlight inconsistencies and it doesn't look all wavy. also it isn't really sparkly on the bottom.
the problem is definitely more obvious with lower brightness. with max brightness it is almost perfect. i have to try really hard to notice it then. i can really only see it on the squares picture or on a totally white screen.
maybe i am just really sensitive to this, or i am just so incredibly unlucky that when i finally got an LG it also has the problem? maybe i just have to get used to white webpages looking a bit creamy?
it's probably because i'm coming from an incredible Sony trinitron CRT that i've used for 10 years now.... i haven't seen a display that's looked better. i just have high standards I guess...
anyway, i think it is acceptable, but i just don't know.....
oh yeah, and it did come really really washed out, but i used supercal to calibrate it, and the colors look so much better and richer. if anyone has the washed out problem with their LG, definitely get supercal.
I finally got my refund from Amazon.com and decided to just go to the Apple store and pick up a MBP, with my fingers crossed of course.
It turns out that I got a week 40 LG with no yellowing. There is a slight amount of backlight bleed at the bottom of the screen, but not enough to even bother me slightly.
So this is really great. I'm so glad I got a machine without any problems.
It turns out that I got a week 40 LG with no yellowing. There is a slight amount of backlight bleed at the bottom of the screen, but not enough to even bother me slightly.
So this is really great. I'm so glad I got a machine without any problems.
LG owners, are you sure there is absolutely no yellowing at all on the bottom? because my LG still has a bit of yellow, but nowhere near as bad as my last 2 samsungs. there is no backlight inconsistencies and it doesn't look all wavy. also it isn't really sparkly on the bottom.
the problem is definitely more obvious with lower brightness. with max brightness it is almost perfect. i have to try really hard to notice it then. i can really only see it on the squares picture or on a totally white screen.
maybe i am just really sensitive to this, or i am just so incredibly unlucky that when i finally got an LG it also has the problem? maybe i just have to get used to white webpages looking a bit creamy?
it's probably because i'm coming from an incredible Sony trinitron CRT that i've used for 10 years now.... i haven't seen a display that's looked better. i just have high standards I guess...
anyway, i think it is acceptable, but i just don't know.....
oh yeah, and it did come really really washed out, but i used supercal to calibrate it, and the colors look so much better and richer. if anyone has the washed out problem with their LG, definitely get supercal.
Ive been through 3 lg screens and all looked washed out no matter what program I used to calibrate. Spyder, supercal.. Etc. When I had my first samsung with very slight yellow on the bottom the Volos looked so much vivid and amazing. I should have kept the samsung, lg the colors look washed out and the colors are like pastels and not vivd even on the glossy lg screens. I posted a compare shots of a samsung vs. Lg on one of the forums and u can clearly see the colors are washed out on the lg. Same as my desktop monitor from lg,colors look like pastels and dull and not sharp . Im getting ready to buy a mbp again after selling my mac pro next week and i pray to god that i get a samesung. Honestly i think the yellow tint is normal same as older ccfl backlighting has blue tint and some stronger than other but we just dont seem to notice or we like the blue push and not used to the yellow push.
I bought a MacBook pro 2.4 when they first came out and it had the yellow bottom 1/3 screen. I took it back twice and stillgot the same thing and then bought a Macbook 2.16, I would love to go back and get a 2.2 again. How does everyone feel about this issue being solved? Waiting hasn't seemed to fix the problem? Also, if I buy before Friday will I get an upgrade to Leopard? We are taking a trip before Friday so i can't wait till then. Thanks
I received my replacement 3rd machine (1st LG horrible
backlight bleed @bottom, 2nd samsung yellow bottom 1/3).
This 3rd one is a Week 42, Matte, Samsung
This one has about 1-2mm bleed on top and bottom (within
spec), has a little more even backlighting than my last
samsung). It has bottom 1/3 yellowing, but very subtle,
even less than my last samsung and nothing like the
really bad piss yellow screens I've seen on early build SR Samsungs.
As with all of the LED backlight machines I've had (even the LG)
there is a bit of 'yellow push' to the whites.
I've calibrated myself with supercal and tried just about
every profile posted. So far, I like this profile the best
for a cooler white with less noticeable patches of yellow coming through:
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=78673&d=1183701368
This is at the expense of some color vibrancy (some profiles
had much better colors) and there is a pretty steep gradient
in the greens, but I like the whites better.
If anyone has a better Samsung color profile, please post.
Overall, the rest of machine is ok. I'm going to give this
machine a week and see how it goes. I'm leaning towards
keeping this one. I just don't have the time anymore
to deal with support, replacement, reloading software, etc, etc
and think this is about as good as it gets in terms of
backlight bleed (better than LG I had), colors (better
than the washed out LG), and bottom 1/3rd yellowing
(better than the last samsung I had).
The only alternative I'd consider now is to wait for penryn in January,
but I really don't want to wait that long and limp along with my g4.
This whole experience has been a pain, but on the upside,
I am now eligible to get Leopard for $10.
Good luck to everyone!
Mandoman
backlight bleed @bottom, 2nd samsung yellow bottom 1/3).
This 3rd one is a Week 42, Matte, Samsung
This one has about 1-2mm bleed on top and bottom (within
spec), has a little more even backlighting than my last
samsung). It has bottom 1/3 yellowing, but very subtle,
even less than my last samsung and nothing like the
really bad piss yellow screens I've seen on early build SR Samsungs.
As with all of the LED backlight machines I've had (even the LG)
there is a bit of 'yellow push' to the whites.
I've calibrated myself with supercal and tried just about
every profile posted. So far, I like this profile the best
for a cooler white with less noticeable patches of yellow coming through:
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=78673&d=1183701368
This is at the expense of some color vibrancy (some profiles
had much better colors) and there is a pretty steep gradient
in the greens, but I like the whites better.
If anyone has a better Samsung color profile, please post.
Overall, the rest of machine is ok. I'm going to give this
machine a week and see how it goes. I'm leaning towards
keeping this one. I just don't have the time anymore
to deal with support, replacement, reloading software, etc, etc
and think this is about as good as it gets in terms of
backlight bleed (better than LG I had), colors (better
than the washed out LG), and bottom 1/3rd yellowing
(better than the last samsung I had).
The only alternative I'd consider now is to wait for penryn in January,
but I really don't want to wait that long and limp along with my g4.
This whole experience has been a pain, but on the upside,
I am now eligible to get Leopard for $10.
Good luck to everyone!
Mandoman
I received my replacement 3rd machine (1st LG horrible
backlight bleed @bottom, 2nd samsung yellow bottom 1/3).
This 3rd one is a Week 42, Matte, Samsung
This one has about 1-2mm bleed on top and bottom (within
spec), has a little more even backlighting than my last
samsung). It has bottom 1/3 yellowing, but very subtle,
even less than my last samsung and nothing like the
really bad piss yellow screens I've seen on early build SR Samsungs.
As with all of the LED backlight machines I've had (even the LG)
there is a bit of 'yellow push' to the whites.
I've calibrated myself with supercal and tried just about
every profile posted. So far, I like this profile the best
for a cooler white with less noticeable patches of yellow coming through:
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=78673&d=1183701368
This is at the expense of some color vibrancy (some profiles
had much better colors) and there is a pretty steep gradient
in the greens, but I like the whites better.
If anyone has a better Samsung color profile, please post.
Overall, the rest of machine is ok. I'm going to give this
machine a week and see how it goes. I'm leaning towards
keeping this one. I just don't have the time anymore
to deal with support, replacement, reloading software, etc, etc
and think this is about as good as it gets in terms of
backlight bleed (better than LG I had), colors (better
than the washed out LG), and bottom 1/3rd yellowing
(better than the last samsung I had).
The only alternative I'd consider now is to wait for penryn in January,
but I really don't want to wait that long and limp along with my g4.
This whole experience has been a pain, but on the upside,
I am now eligible to get Leopard for $10.
Good luck to everyone!
Mandoman
I bought a new macbook pro today. How can you see if it has bleeding of the backlight? Thanks
You'll notice it most on the default 'Aqua Blue' background
with the dock hidden and brightness at max under dim
lighting. If you see a bright band on the bottom,
that is backlight bleed. A pixel checker program set to
black is also an easy way to spot it and is an easy way to
check the top (since the finder hides any top bleed). Another
way to check is with a fullscreen letterboxed movie.
Most MBP's have some level of bleed at top and/or bottom,
usually 1mm wide. That is normal. I've seen it as bad as a
1/4" wide on the bottom, that's what I'd consider really bad.