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New MBP price = *speechless*
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I do feel that apple is giving much less significant to their products to be user friendly and instead are focusing more on things like "courage" and being very esthetically pleasing.
mac's are not art, they need to be functional machines for daily tasks and ease of use.
so for example : removing all connectors for only USB-C , is it more esthetic? yes, does it require courage? sure.
but it seems that apple didn't really bother with the fact that its going to be less convenient to use (at least for the next couple of years till USB-C will become standard). dongles and adapters are just not fun, specially not from $3000 piece of hardware.
if apple would care more about the actual daily use of her clients , she would leave at least 1 normal USB , HDMI ,
and add only 2 USB C for future proof reasons.
Many will say: "yes but then hardware companies wont be forced to start producing products with USB-C.
well , honestly i don't give a sh*t about that, why it should be on our back as customers who pay top dollar?
And about that bar thingy, cool emoji gimmick that I have a feeling a lot of us will grow to hate.
I mean, if you go touch , just go touch screen, why make it so complected?
mac's are not art, they need to be functional machines for daily tasks and ease of use.
so for example : removing all connectors for only USB-C , is it more esthetic? yes, does it require courage? sure.
but it seems that apple didn't really bother with the fact that its going to be less convenient to use (at least for the next couple of years till USB-C will become standard). dongles and adapters are just not fun, specially not from $3000 piece of hardware.
if apple would care more about the actual daily use of her clients , she would leave at least 1 normal USB , HDMI ,
and add only 2 USB C for future proof reasons.
Many will say: "yes but then hardware companies wont be forced to start producing products with USB-C.
well , honestly i don't give a sh*t about that, why it should be on our back as customers who pay top dollar?
And about that bar thingy, cool emoji gimmick that I have a feeling a lot of us will grow to hate.
I mean, if you go touch , just go touch screen, why make it so complected?
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Don't know how that thought comes into your head.
money is money and not all of us are college kids.
Deposable income is quite common, if you have a good job and invest it wisely
Buying any premium product can been seen as a scam, but i spend the extra, as it normally last longer and is cheaper in the long run.
Seems like a lot of people are unhappy about the cost of the Macbook Pro, but no one is forcing them to buy it.
Most could get away with using a Macbook.
all I'm saying is if you can't afford it, there are cheaper option, that will still do the job.
I was so keen on upgrading my Macbook before the event, but I can't justify the price bump. When you compare them to other brands it just get ridiculous. There is no question that for me functionality/combability are over fancy design every day.
Having seen and played with some in the flesh - yes I beleive the build quality is as good as mac. The screen is ***gorgeous***, the edge-to-edge display means I can use the 15" in a plane seat unlike my MBP 15" - and importnatly I can get it with 32GB RAM. ANDDDD it is cheaper. ANNND I can get a warranty with onsite service.
I'm sorry Apple - but there is no contest here - Dell is the clear and unambivalent winner
OKEY! People, feedback NOW!
Is the processor apple used in the New macbook pro 15 from 2015 q3!? WTF!?
If so, why would People here say skylake appropriate for the macbook pro just got released?
Is the processor apple used in the New macbook pro 15 from 2015 q3!? WTF!?
If so, why would People here say skylake appropriate for the macbook pro just got released?
Mate, you can think whatever you like.
I didn't upgrade last year as i didn't think it was worth it. This time, its worth spending the extra coins for a laptop that does the job.
My last 2 Macbook pros (2007 and 2010) were similar in cost to this one, I'm just hearing a lot of complaining about the cost of a Macbook pro, when most of these guys could get away with a Macbook.
Macbook pros aren't a shiny thing, its a laptop, built to a price to do a job...
For me it does the job, all my mac's have been more reliable than window based laptops and for me its worth the price.
You presume I haven't played with one in the flesh. For me, the trackpad is way inferior, the screen is nice on the eyes but less accurate (which is important to me), and the build quality is much worse than a MacBook. This is my opinion, I don't present it as one and objective truth, and I can totally accept that someone feels differently. Perhaps you care for different details or don't notice some things I do, or just prefer some other feel, etc. As I said, I can totally accept that you feel different....
Until I read something like:
In which case, my response is: I'm sorry Dell, but there is no contest here. A MacBook is in a league on its own. Good luck next time. Apple is the clear and unambivalent winner, of course.
Yeah cause getting a better paying job is so easy right??
It was a poor choice of words, i just got frustrated as most of the people, could get by with a macbook than spending more than they need to on a macbook pro.
as for the better paying job, it really isn't that hard
If your good at your job, you will get some recognition and most likely a promotion.
Tie in some networking to broaden your contacts, and continue to study.
It is easy, you just need the right attitude and the opportunities will arise.
Nothing good comes without hard work though, never has
Supposing I decide to agree with you on those points. You ignored my most important one. The 32GB RAM in the Dell which i need for my work means I could sell the underused desktop I have with 32GB RAM. Once again there is no contest, Apple do not offer me this. (and why not ? The motherboard in the MBP have suported 32GB RAM for years - they jsut don't make it available....mind you it would probably be a $5000 upgrade.....)
Technically, the board may be able to support it. It doesn't mean Apple are willing to put it in. The logic board of current generation MBPs takes up about a third of the chassis, with the remaining space being made available to the battery packs. The board is stuffed with chips and caps. You could extend the size of the board, but that would cut into battery space. By which you'd have to program something clever to use less energy during low priority tasks. Or you can bring up the chassis size. Ideally, Apple could do something like a mezzanine board but that would take up space and you'd have to make sure the RAM on that board is handled as well as the mainboard/logic RAM.
Let's see ... I am skipping the iPhone 7. Looks like I am skipping getting a new MBP to replace my aging Lenovo and partner with my rMB ... SO I'll stay with my 6S+, my rMB, and I'll be buying another Windows system to replace my Lenovo.
Yeah. I'm with you on the price gouging.
For me until Samsung, Google or Microsoft make a OS that works no place to go. But the whole frequent updates I use to do aren't happening any more. I only upgrade if my family needs it not because I want something new and shiny. It's just more of the same for more money then they are so cocky to be like "this took courage!!!"
Apple has become Microsoft. Instead of buying the MacBook Pro I am just going to put that money on Microsoft stock.
Apple has become Microsoft. Instead of buying the MacBook Pro I am just going to put that money on Microsoft stock.
The price is definitely on a high side, but then again, that laptop is cutting edge tech and engineering. As I have written in another thread, if I keep a MBP for 3 years and pay $3000, I have effectively paid $83 per months. Thats the price of 8 beers or 4 asian fastfood takeaways where I live. Its also what I pay for internet monthly. Frankly, its not a terrible price to pay given the fact that I use the computer 10 hours per day on average. I know that if I got a Dell or a Blade, my experience would be much less stellar.
It is an individual thing, it comes down to what you need it for and if you think its worth it.
I think its worth the price increase, it offers a lot more than the 2015 model for only a little bit more $$.
I was a bit harsh in my post, its just frustrating when a lot of people want a Pro (that can be debated) laptop and complain about the cost, when all they need is a Macbook for their needs.
In short, it is unreasonable pricing because it is double what a high end Dell or Lenovo costs. Let that sink in. Double.
A year-old Skylake, for the money that Apple is askin' for? No thanks!
I went refurb 15". I was on board until after placing the order and thinking about it. I couldn't justify the price for myself.
I just don't see myself utilizing the Touch bar as much as Apple claims we should. The only thing I saw useful was when that lady with the braids was sliding through the blend options. That was the only thing I thought would be useful for me. Also, I would need to purchase 4 dongles for my work.
That is an issue if you do compare to to other brands.. Apple has always been more pricey
Apple has good some great designs and products, but for me its the software (OS) that makes the laptop
The Macbook is just as good as the Macbook pro, its the same OS, just lacks high end grunt.
I personally don't think apple will bring down there prices until someone can compete with a decent OS.
Ah. The car analogy. We meet again.If we are going to use such an analogy, at least do it correctly.
This is like Mercedes increasing the price for the 2017 base E-Class by 30% and still charging $50,000 for the 2015 model. No one here is asking the 2016 rMBP to be the price of a Dell Inspiron. Also, you simply can't justify not decreasing the price of the 2015 model. This is ridiculous, even for Apple.
Everyone here understands "you get what you pay for". Why the hell do you think we are using Macs to begin with?
The biggest issue for me is....
I waited patiently for 3 1/2 years to earn the money to get a new laptop. I ignored all of 2013/4/5...kept calm and earned my budget.
The laptops come out...
FAR too expensive. Shame...but ok. I'll buy a 2015 one.
ER WHAT!? they've jumped 20% so I cant afford/justify those either.
New products. Expensive? Fine. Old products. More expensive?!!? NOT fine... I was hoping a 20% drop on the 2015 tech...NOT LEAP!
It's gutting. I've been punished for waiting and being frugal. They opened the talk with...Accessible for all...? As long as you're extremely wealthy, then you're in the 'all'
I waited patiently for 3 1/2 years to earn the money to get a new laptop. I ignored all of 2013/4/5...kept calm and earned my budget.
The laptops come out...
FAR too expensive. Shame...but ok. I'll buy a 2015 one.
ER WHAT!? they've jumped 20% so I cant afford/justify those either.
New products. Expensive? Fine. Old products. More expensive?!!? NOT fine... I was hoping a 20% drop on the 2015 tech...NOT LEAP!
It's gutting. I've been punished for waiting and being frugal. They opened the talk with...Accessible for all...? As long as you're extremely wealthy, then you're in the 'all'
Hyperbole much? Lack of useful ports, no failsafe power connection, keyboard feel compromised, etc. Same retina screen resolution (no 4k/5k internal display).
Some people have way too much hot air in their heads - fact is this is such an incremental upgrade (or a real downgrade even in certain aspects) and there's NOTHING NEW that isn't just an improvement or compromise item besides the Touch Bar and TouchID. Most reactions to Touch Bar - something not needed, certainly not worth a premium, so all you have left is the TouchID.
Literally every single thing about this new MBP is underwhelming, by a lot, for actual pro usage. dGPUs being AMD weak sauce.
The iPhone 7 is far more impressive, literally, by MILES, in comparison to this weak sauce MBP update.
Thinner IS NOT always better!
Check out BH Video, great retailer and they have stock in the prior generation and I think the prices are lower then what apple is charging