Maybe the industry plateaued.
Maybe things aren't evolving as fast anymore and getting as cheap.
Theres are limits to tech you know.
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New MBP price = *speechless*
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Maybe the industry plateaued.
Maybe things aren't evolving as fast anymore and getting as cheap.
Theres are limits to tech you know.
Sure, but it doesn't seem to be bearing out in the rest of the industry. And I think the plateauing is more about the time between upgrades and how big the upgrades are when they hit, not really the cost. Intel has had a bit of price creep, but nothing like 20%.
I waited for a year for the skylake Mbp and now I'm ready to buy the 2015 MBP with 512ssd for 1850€. The new MBP with comparable specs will cost me at least 3300 (Greek prices). Expecting to keep it for at least 7 years.
Its just funny how so much excitement for new products can be completely dulled by ridiculous pricing. I was (like a lot of people) ready to pull the trigger on a new MBP but the pricing has just knocked me for 6. Do we think apple will drop the pricing in the near future when sales are rubbish? What do they think the next generation will use to develop iOS apps if they can't afford the hardware in the first place.
Microsoft have just released overpriced hardware as well but they are in an ecosystem where you can get probably 20 Windows machines that fit your budget whatever that budget may be. Apple are the only people who can make hardware for macOS and they have shot themselves in the foot.
This is a bit of a mis-step in the short term and I think the bad will they are generating will last a lot longer. Once people have moved to windows they probably won't come back.
Microsoft have just released overpriced hardware as well but they are in an ecosystem where you can get probably 20 Windows machines that fit your budget whatever that budget may be. Apple are the only people who can make hardware for macOS and they have shot themselves in the foot.
This is a bit of a mis-step in the short term and I think the bad will they are generating will last a lot longer. Once people have moved to windows they probably won't come back.
Real professionals who need a MB Pro will be buying one regardless of a few extra hundred $$. Students dont need it nor do most home users. (many of which are using iPads and iPhones anyway)
Also on a separate note the majority of Americans actually don't have $2000 in their bank accounts (not speaking for myself thankfully).
http://time.com/money/4499957/savings-less-than-1000/
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You could tell in the presentation that Apple is beginning to panic.
They said "it's the standard" or "it's the gold standard" or "it's always been the standard" multiple times.
If it's always been the standard, you shouldn't have to say it. Kind of like when Lil Wayne says he's the "best rapper alive" - you shouldn't have to say it.
While it's true that Macbook Pros have always been top-of-class, their continuous reminders of that fact throughout the presentation screamed "we know we're slipping, but you should buy this anyway because we're telling you how great it is".
They said "it's the standard" or "it's the gold standard" or "it's always been the standard" multiple times.
If it's always been the standard, you shouldn't have to say it. Kind of like when Lil Wayne says he's the "best rapper alive" - you shouldn't have to say it.
While it's true that Macbook Pros have always been top-of-class, their continuous reminders of that fact throughout the presentation screamed "we know we're slipping, but you should buy this anyway because we're telling you how great it is".
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In all seriousness, I wonder the same thing. Given how many employees they have and all of their resources, it's baffling to think how little progress they make when it comes to their laptops. And their desktop line is even worse, neglected to the point of obsolescence. It's like they're not even trying.
I'm not exactly sure why they had to remove the SD card reader, MagSafe charge port, USB-A port, or the iconic glowing apple logo on the back lid and why do you need such a massive trackpad? Maybe it's that courageous thing again.
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I'm with the majority of the posts that I read, in that I will not buy one of the new MBP's at the prices Apple published. I've been holding off replacing my 2009 13" MBP for yesterdays announcement. Now I find I need to step back and reevaluate what to do.
AND for the poster who said everyone has $2000 and can afford the price, curious as to your budgeting skills. Sure I have $2000 but I have things I must use that $2000 for and one of them isn't an overpriced 2016 MBP.
AND for the poster who said everyone has $2000 and can afford the price, curious as to your budgeting skills. Sure I have $2000 but I have things I must use that $2000 for and one of them isn't an overpriced 2016 MBP.
No Apple isn't taking advantage of anyone. If you are actually a Professional who NEEDS a MB Pro then the cost shouldn't be be much on an issue for most. You average Joe will be just fine checking FB and spewing emoji's from their iPhone, iPad or Macbook.
I have great budgeting skills which is why I have much more than 2K in my bank account. So if I was in the market for a MB Pro the extra money they're charging would not hurt me so much. But I don't need one for home use and all my creative tasks are done on a 5K iMac at work.
People spend their money how they choose. If the MB Pro is needed they will buy it.
I'd much rather question the people who spend $5 on coffee every day. People blow their money on tons of stupid stuff so putting a few extra hundred on a necessary piece of equipment to get the job done is really not an issue. Time is money and that extra $$ on the new MB Pro could pay for itself in no time.
Kool-aid. Please drink less. This isn't a justification for the current state of the company's products.
If that only that was true. I have had the 12" Macbook only to sell it 2 months later for not using it. I'm a light user and don't need all the buff, but I want a minimum of 15" screen, and compared that to other products. ASUS, Dell and more can sell me a 15" new laptop for less than 50-60% of what the new Macbook 15" cost me and hardware wise they will be more than enough to me. My laptops end up getting worn before, they run out.
But that said. I agree that macOS is superior to Windows. But I might go Linux.
How is it courage to remove the headphone jack stating how obsolete it is on the phone YET KEEP IT IN THE NEW MODELS OF MBP. Apple doesn't know what they are doing
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"you get what you pay for..."
The problem is that -- with yesterday's release -- many many folks sense that what Apple is now asking them to pay, is no longer worth what they're receiving in return.
The frustration here is as evident as the silence yesterday when the pricing was announced...
"you get what you pay for..."
The problem is that -- with yesterday's release -- many many folks sense that what Apple is now asking them to pay, is no longer worth what they're receiving in return.
The frustration here is as evident as the silence yesterday when the pricing was announced...
Ha, and your statements contained two "maybes".... the abstract was answered with the abstract and now you're complaining?
you do realize they just posted financial numbers showing over 9 Billion in quarterly PROFIT. I'm not saying I love the new Macbooks, I'm saying every time there is a product announcement (and I mean every time), these posts come up.
The Touchbar will likely move down market at some point, but I agree. Apple has severely overplayed their hands.
Saying a company is rich is justification for the degradation and abandonment across their entire product line isn't a fact, so please stop stating it as such. It's not an argument, it's a cop out that defies logic and reason.
The "well if your ideas are so great, you build a better company!" line is getting quite old. If anyone doesn't agree with the current state of things, it must mean they have terrible business sense. Meanwhile Apple is eviscerating their customers and people are okay with it.