New MBP price = *speechless*

Given how many employees they have and all of their resources, it's baffling to think how little progress they make when it comes to their laptops.
It's really not that surprising. If they were 25% of that headcount, they would bring products to market much earlier. Probably the company is getting stifled by standard operating procedures, processes and stakeholder meetings.
 
yeap, MS for the first time in a long while wins in terms of announcement, improvements and prices.
Hope this wakes and shakes up apple bigs so they realize its not just all about the extra squeeze to their customers, real innovation is needed to ask for a new premium price.
 
i hope they won't make the iMacs more expensive than they are. But i also understand why they want to make the prices higher, they want to compete in market share with Microsoft with they're high premium studio line. Have you guys seen that and the prices for a Microsoft device? that's even more breathtaking than this... my honest opinion.

That humongous display with the digitizer is pretty expensive, so the price of the Surface Studio seems at least somewhat reasonable.

Wacom Cintiq 27QHD touch without a PC is $2799.95.
 
Steve Jobs was the identity of Apple. Amazing products, fair price. Now the products still amazing but the price went crazy. :(
I'm sure this won't happened with Steve...
the first iPhone had to have a big cut in price because it was too high. SJ learned fair price fast after that and since that time had tried to make sure price points were realistic while still higher than the rest. Nowadays is all about the squeeze and none of the innovation.
 
Steve Jobs was the identity of Apple. Amazing products, fair price. Now the products still amazing but the price went crazy. :(
I'm sure this won't happened with Steve...

No, the prices were still crazy high when Steve was around.
 
(In case you aren't familiar with what I am referring to, 15" battery capacity dropped from 99.5kwh to 75khw, 13" from 75kwh to 54kwh).

I was right - they did it to reduce weight. And I agree with that decision. Jason Snell confirmed it today:

The display is an energy saver. According to Apple, the retina display on these models is brighter—rated at 500 nits—and incorporates the same larger pixel aperture and variable refresh rate as the MacBook’s display. Despite all that, the display uses 30 percent less energy than the previous model. That’s one of the ways Apple was able to shave weight off of these laptops—by reducing battery due to the decreased power consumption of the screen.
 
if anyone is still worried about using the ESC button

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And about that bar thingy, cool emoji gimmick that I have a feeling a lot of us will grow to hate.

I see numerous mentions of the "Emoji Bar" on these forums, this is just one of the may examples. To everyone calling it an "Emoji Bar" I have to say: that is some pro-level blind hate, it's almost malicious. You don't have to like the thing, you can dislike the whole idea of the touch bar (although I would suggest at least trying it first before you decide you hate it, but fine, whatever). But reducing the bar to "emojis" is just - mean. Did you skip the part with the whole Photoshop presentation? Did you skip the part where they showed support from pro apps like Affinity Designer, or the Office suite? Emojis? Seriously? That's what you got out of the whole event - emojis?
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Technically, the board may be able to support it. It doesn't mean Apple are willing to put it in. The logic board of current generation MBPs takes up about a third of the chassis, with the remaining space being made available to the battery packs. The board is stuffed with chips and caps. You could extend the size of the board, but that would cut into battery space. By which you'd have to program something clever to use less energy during low priority tasks. Or you can bring up the chassis size. Ideally, Apple could do something like a mezzanine board but that would take up space and you'd have to make sure the RAM on that board is handled as well as the mainboard/logic RAM.


This. If anyone thinks Apple would intentionally loose the opportunity to sell you more RAM just to screw you over, you're just being silly. In fact, if they did offer 32Gb RAM, since people always assume they need the maximum, a LOT of people would buy it even without needing it (a very small percentage of users actually needs more than 16Gb, but that didn't stop a lot of people from maxing out their iMacs, for example) - this would only add to Apple's profits. In fact, they went against their own profit, to provide what they think is a better product (making it smaller and lighter).

You don't have to agree with this, and if you really need more RAM, you're out of luck. It's fine, grab a different computer. But people thinking this is some silly decision without any reason - you clearly don't know how things work.
 
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In my country, one has to work 8 months to afford the maxed out Macbook Pro. Greedy bastards!
Also, i can't understand their stupid virtue signaling with the accessibility features and products made for disabled people. Like disabled people could ever afford an Apple computer!!! They should be ashamed.
 
In my country, one has to work 8 months to afford the maxed out Macbook Pro. Greedy bastards!
Also, i can't understand their stupid virtue signaling with the accessibility features and products made for disabled people. Like disabled people could ever afford an Apple computer!!! They should be ashamed.

They are trying to make all of their products accessible even to people with disabilities. You suggest they simply flat out ignore those people? And how do you know what they can or cannot afford?

You know what, since we know people with disabilities can't afford expensive schools, we should remove all the ramps and toilets for people with disabilities too. Also, since they can't afford expensive restaurants, do that there too. They should have access and assistance only in cheap schools and public places they can afford!

Seriously, this is one of the most wrong posts I have read in a long while.
 
We all know Apple products have premium price. But their price on the new MacBooks is absolutely crazy far beyond my expectations. The 13" one with the touch bar is amazing and while watching the keynote, I knew this sucker was gonna be expensive...but at $1799.... Wow it's enough to buy 2 iphone 7 Plus 128gb

Australia base price with Touch Bar = A$2,699.00, you have lost a customer.
 
I am also speechless about Apple's pricing and their reluctance to use DDR4 RAM. Now, it's finally time to seriously consider Dell's XPS 13 - a much cheaper high-quality alternative with the latest Kaby Lake processor. Shame on you, Apple. Good luck with selling your overpriced MBPs and ancient MBAs.
 
I am also speechless about Apple's pricing and their reluctance to use DDR4 RAM. Now, it's finally time to seriously consider Dell's XPS 13 - a much cheaper high-quality alternative with the latest Kaby Lake processor. Shame on you, Apple. Good luck with selling your overpriced MBPs and ancient MBAs.

Not really quite the same thing is it?

-poverty track pad/tiny battery life/dull speakers/dull screen
-high quality alternative

^pick one
 
Damn Brexit. What a ******* stupid idea.

These new machines are a terrible deal. The MBPs were already ludicrous compared to similarly specced Wintel boxes, now they are just retarded.
I specced one up at over £4000 earlier. Its like the mid 90s again, the exception being that 15" LCDs are not state of the art tech any more. Haven't been for a decade.
This update has given us a screen upgrade that we didn't really need, an enclosure shrink that we didn't really need (and will likely just cause these things to cook themselves even faster than they already do) stripped off all the ports we use and love (So lets add another £200 in dongles for that and still no MagSafe) and then there is the Touch Bar which is nothing more than a gimmick. I'm sure its ok, but I wouldn't pay more than a couple of quid extra for it.
For this kind of money we should be getting 4K displays or better, 64GB RAM, 1TB or more of storage, waterproof and a 5 year warranty. I could buy a really decent car for this much money, Apple are taking the piss worse than ever.
 
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