I call it a coincidence.
Netbooks came out when Intel's multi-year project to produce the Atom processor bore fruit (more or less on schedule).
The economy may help explain their popularity, but the timing was luck.
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I call it a coincidence.
Netbooks came out when Intel's multi-year project to produce the Atom processor bore fruit (more or less on schedule).
The economy may help explain their popularity, but the timing was luck.
I dont think i like you. There is no need to get an overly defensive attitude with me. You were being hypocritical and i called you out on it. If you cant handle that then i suggest you stay away from the internet.
OMG, I thought it was a documentary!!!
Here's what happened:
It's unclear whether Lauren became an actor of the Screen Actor's Guild before or after she shot the commercial. It could be that she's an aspiring n00b actress who found an opportunity for massive exposure, it could also be that she suddenly considered herself an "actress" after appearing in the commercial, and applied for SAG membership. But either way, she actually wanted a computer.
I would however not have raised an eyebrow if they had gone out and hired an actress and staged the whole thing from top to bottom. It's advertising, not reality (reality shows are staged too, btw).
I am an actor in New York who read about this ad a few weeks ago. I think I remember seeing the casting notice for it as well.
So yes, this was staged... kind of. Microsoft put out an audition notice in New York and LA for people who wanted new computers. They promised to allow the actors to keep whatever they found (for under $1000) as long as they filmed their search. Supposedly several actors were filmed, and none of them bought Macs even though Microsoft claims they would have footed the bill (this probably means that there are other, similar commercials in the works). It wasn't until after the whole ordeal that the actors realized that their commercials would air in national television.
The reason you see the guy twice in the shot is either because it's two different guys who look similar, or more likely, she filmed herself going in and out of the store a couple of times (or out of order) to get a shot that looked right. It doesn't mean she didn't really go in.
I'm just pointing out the fact that the average person isn't foolish enough to pay what people think used Macs are worth
A MacBook Pro isn't worth the original price. In fact, the $2499 MacBook Pro is realistically only worth about $999. The average person knows this so they're not going to pay more for it used than it was worth to begin with. Funny how don't post a link to the original article. The original article being a BLOG post, which was updated several months later to include the information that the military banned removable media not because of viruses, but because they don't want enemies to be able to use them to attack
Which is a plus.
Slow AMD mobile processor? AMD's Turion line is only marginally slower than Intel's Core 2 Duo line and usually several hundred dollars cheaper. The difference in waiting a couple of extra seconds for a video encode to finish means nothing when you're $300-$400 richer.
Just like every Intel Mac up until a couple of months ago, and like the current white MacBook.
Let's not forget that every 15"+ system in the $1,000 and up range has a 1650x1080 resolution, the same the 17" MacBook Pro had as standard until recently, and 16" PCs offer 1920x1200, same as the 17" MacBook Pro costing twice as much on average.
Oh noes, 802.11g! What ever will we do with real world performance still much faster than nearly all internet connections in the US.
HP claims 3.5 hours of battery life with the battery in my 15.4" system and its spot on. They only claim about 4.5 hours on the 12 cell battery I have but its closer to 6.5-7 hours.
Actually, no, it comes with very highly rated software. Maybe you should do your research.
It's not belittling anyone when its the truth.
Been using a Mac for years now and I have yet to see how its "intuitive". If anything, its counter-intuitive.
You know that Ballmer has been CEO for several years now, right? And if MS is "going downhill", why are there 10x as many Vista users as there are Mac users?
Oh and if you want to complain about misleading advertising, let's talk about the "Get a Mac" campaign, shall we? It's quite hypocritical of ALL Apple fans to complain about this ad as "misleading" when we've had 3 years worth of misleading advertising from Apple. None of their ads have been truthful.
It doesn't bother me if someone likes a Mac and wants to buy one. What bothers me is that Apple apologists will flat out lie when it comes to defending Apple and making PCs look bad. Look at this thread. You have all kinds of people lying about how "bad" Windows is, saying things that have never been true. Trying to twist arguments as far as price is concerned, and just spreading general FUD that even the most computer illiterate Windows user knows is FUD.
this is perfect, this will force apples hand and they will finally lower their profit margins to a respectfully competitive position. as far as the add goes, i would be much more impressed with a 4 year old girl that makes a cute fishy face went out comparing bus speed, graphics cards and L2cahe .
No. No you didn't get what you wanted. . . you went to a Mac store 1st. Instead you compromised and got . . . a Windows machine (With Vista even).
I saw all I needed to see in that commercial
I saw all I needed to see in that commercial
No. No you didn't get what you wanted. . . you went to a Mac store 1st. Instead you compromised and got . . . a Windows machine (With Vista even).
I saw all I needed to see in that commercial
I saw the same thing. She couldnt get a Mac so she had to settle for a PC
Both Windows and Mac enthusiasts will lie.
You're trying to make it seem like Windows has no problem. The truth is, both Windows and Mac OS X have problems. The fact is that most MacRumors users prefer OS X over Windows. The mythical average user may prefer Windows.
Let them have what they want.
mosx, you know what your problem is? You seem to think everyone has had the same experiences as you. You're constantly taking your own issue's as fact that everyone has or will have that issue. Anyone with half a mind knows that you can't draw conclusions from one experience. It's why when scientists perform an experiment, they do it more then once. Just because you get a positive or negative result the first time, doesn't mean it will happen everytime. Likewise, two positive or negative results in a row hardly mean anything. It either means you're correct, or you got lucky. You still can't come to a conclusion and call it fact, especially if there are documented cases contradicting your experiences.
I've said this before to you: your MacBook's have the cracking case issue? Sorry you got the short end of the stick, but plenty of other people have flawless MacBook's of the same model. Therefore, they can't all have the issue, right? And even if they do, what in the hell makes you think you're correct, based on an experience of maybe 5 machines tops, out of a pool of thousands? Think about it for a while, see if that makes sense.
I've said this before to you: your MacBook's have the cracking case issue? Sorry you got the short end of the stick, but plenty of other people have flawless MacBook's of the same model. Therefore, they can't all have the issue, right? And even if they do, what in the hell makes you think you're correct, based on an experience of maybe 5 machines tops, out of a pool of thousands? Think about it for a while, see if that makes sense.
It's a lesson about living within a budget....
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes, well you just might find
You get what you need
(M. Jagger/K. Richards)
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes, well you just might find
You get what you need
(M. Jagger/K. Richards)
LOL good way to see it. Funny how she said she's not cool enough, she bought into the hype! Too bad she couldn't follow through.
Just four posts after yours is this:
I'm just pointing out the fact that the average person isn't foolish enough to pay what people think used Macs are worth
Am I supposed to enjoy being called a fool for buying a Mac? Being told that Mac buyers like myself are stupider than the average person? And that if I point it out without also equally pointing out the angry responses to this sort of trolling *****, that makes me a hypocrite in your mind? And I should be able to "handle" being called a hypocrite by you on top of being called stupid and foolish or get off the internet? What world of pissants that take all the ***** you dish out and thank you for it do you live in?
I don't understand why you try and pick fights here and call people who buy Macs fools. You came here a few months back and said how horrible your Mac is and how you will never buy another. Then the aluminum books come out and you pick one up and say the same things. So what point are you trying to make?
Your opinion. The fact is that Vista has been a disaster and MS can't get out Window 7 fast enough.
Still isn't as good as the Core 2 Duo. People need to compare apples to apples.
Again, the 17" MBP has DDR3. The commercial is misleading because it tries to tell viewers that Apple is more expensive with similar components. Sorry, the 17" HP has DDR2, which is not as good.
Who cares. You keep saying until recently. The commercial deals with now.
They show the HP, which is a terrible display, just awful. That is the computer MS is trying to make a point with.
Fact is that you can get 802.11N with the Apple they want to comare against.
Who cares what you get? I'm glad it lives up to your specs. The commercial wants to compare the HP listed, so again, it gets 2.5 hrs supposedly. The Apple up to 8 hrs. No comparison.
Maybe you should think outside of Office. I am talking about all of the sh*tware that comes on PCs. You don't get that crap on Apple. PCs have all of the virus crap, trial offers, and any other BS that they decide to put on the system.
No it is subjective and therein lies no truth, only perception. No argument to back it up? Weak. I'm sorry if you OR other people cannot afford the 17" MBP. I cannot either, but I don't resort to calling people elitist as a result. People will get what they can afford, but when those who cannot mock those who can, that is just weak.
This is conveniently vague statement. How long is years? Perhaps you confuse non-intuitive with non-Windows. Sorry, but OS X just works and is by far (in my opinion) a superior OS when it comes to the user experience.
Because there are millions of legacy users. If OS were never invented until Vista and Leopard, Apple would have more users because Vista was a disaster. Instead, you have people who grew up on Windows and know nothing different. When it comes time to change, they just kept going with what they knew. This by no means proves Vista is worth its packaging.
You again give no examples, just a vague blanket statement. I told you what was misleading with the MS commercials. Tell me what is misleading about the Apple ads? In fact, MS resorted to insulting those who use Apple products. Apple makes fun of the actual software. Real classy MS. And yes, misleading.
Ok, here we can somewhat agree. People buy based on needs. Windows is not terrible, just not as user-friendly in my opinion. I don't know what people were lieing about. Again, please give examples.
As far as price goes in this thread, the thread is about the MS commercial. MS made a commercial saying that PCs were much more affordable. But they compared apples to oranges. The specs of the PC are lower in comparison to the Apple product. So the basic message comes across as, "Hey buy our product, it goes on cheap machines."
my Dual core outperforms QUAD cores at ~4 GHz, infact even if i downclock to 3.6GHz im still onpar with Macpros with quad cores
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/search?q=750i&commit=Search
that link is to all the 750i motherboards, notice how they are all ~5000-6000 points
now if you look at the macpros you will notice 2008 macpros get about the same rating (however mac pros are QUAD core, not dual core)
also why would i run a stability test for 2 years? i kind of built my gaming rig to play games, im not waiting for 2 years...
Bwahahaha...yeah I can totally see that happening!
Phil Schiller: So Microsoft says we charge too much for our hardware!
Steve Jobs: No ****? What did they say, exactly?
Phil: Well, they just started airing this ad where they give this Lauren chick a thousand bucks and tell her to find a laptop with a 17" screen, and if she finds one, she can keep it. And get this! She goes to Best Buy and picks out this crappy little HP Pavilion! It's a disgrace!
Steve: Wait, she didn't get a MacBook Pro?
Phil: Uh, Steve...the 17" MacBook Pro starts at $2,799.
Steve: No sh*t? IT DOES? Well, what do we do? We can't have Microsoft underpricing us! We'll go out of business!
Phil: Hmmm...I got it! Let's undersell their asses! Start selling the MacBook Pro for $899, and then Lauren will return that piece of sh*t for a decent computer!
Steve: Sounds like a plan! Done!
No, seriously...that was verbatim. I actually overheard them.
"cool" was used as an insult...
Lauren doesn't like the Mac image, the "cool" comment was sarcastic.
Take this comment from Engadget
It's a little bit surprising that many people here didn't pick up on the barb....
Lauren doesn't like the Mac image, the "cool" comment was sarcastic.
Take this comment from Engadget
It's a little bit surprising that many people here didn't pick up on the barb....
Whoa, calm down. Who's really got the problem here?
And good to see mosx posting again. He's the one to whom I credit my upcoming custom PC purchase. I've got a Macbook for now. But it too will one day be upgraded - most likely to a netbook. I've been using Windows 7 in Boot Camp and "seen the light".
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