Most BSODs are from dll hell? Uh, no. Very often they're either hardware issues or driver issues. I haven't seen a software app BSOD a system in ages. It's either hardware or an interface with the hardware that causes the problem.
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Most BSODs are from dll hell? Uh, no. Very often they're either hardware issues or driver issues. I haven't seen a software app BSOD a system in ages. It's either hardware or an interface with the hardware that causes the problem.
What does the lack of RAM have to do with the system stability?
Windows in unstable, even if it has plenty of RAM.
Microsoft is not even advertising their OS! So, perhaps we should stick to pricing of Macs vs. PCs, not Windows and Mac OS X.
It is clearly an ad for windows, but there is no information about windows in the ad.
If you are honestly seeing these issues with Vista, you should:
- Run a systems diagnostics to check for CPU problems
- Run a thorough memory tester like MemTest86, or even the memory test that Windows installs by default (option in the boot menu)
- Run your disk manufacturer's diagnostics, or a general one like SmartCtl
- Check that you have the latest video and other hardware drivers
Windows is only unstable on broken hardware, or with bad drivers. If your system is unstable, check the hardware.
Last reply from me on this - you clearly have no credibility in your claim that Windows per se is unstable, and I have no interest in starting a pointless tit-for-tat with you.
My bad, I forgot how every smug Justin Long ad is chock full of information about Apples.
Yeah, that is strange. They might as well have been advertising time-shares because the end doesn't seem to jive with the message of the rest of the ad.
You, sir, are severely papering over some big issues with owning a Mac. Look, I go against the grain in my company and run a Mac as my primary machine. My own, personal, Mac, although the company does in rare instances allow people to have a Mac. Largely this is because Apple is a major customer of ours and it looks good.
This is a large organization with around 5,000 people. Macs are not officially supported because of site license deals, and not fitting within the infrastructure.
Mac:Office is not included in the Office site license, so Mac users have to fend for themselves.
All users have to hinge off their domain accounts, which OSX won't help you with. So when our passwords expire every 60 days, we have to frantically find a lab machine on the domain to change passwords. Let alone all the problems getting access to domain resources like file servers and printer shares.
Then there are the applications we are required to use that just don't exist on the Mac -- Microsoft Project, Visio, etc. (And yes I know about the alternatives but they aren't the real thing and never properly interoperate 100% with the real thing). Which introduces Parallels or VMWare into the equation, and of course users are on their own to license and maintain. And even if we use Entourage, it doesn't do everything that Exchange/Outlook can and we end up missing things Windows guys are using. I suppose that foisting the Mac people on their own to deal with their own issues reduces TCO, at least from the IT Department's perspective.
Then let's get to the subject of development tools such as JTAG, in which case your Mac becomes a doorstop, it's useless even with Parallels/VMWare.
So, in conclusion, it's not quite so rosy as you are pretending.
My bad, I forgot how every smug Justin Long ad is chock full of information about Apples.
Thats true, but we weren't really talking about those ads were we? hahaha
So an ad for life without walls, but definitely a low ceiling on price. A ceiling without walls...
They would be, but HP doesn't play that high in the market
Vista is utter crap. However, from what I've seen of Win7 so far looks to be very good.
That's because Windows 3.1 (as well as 95, 98, ME, and earlier) are not true operating systems, but more GUI programs on top of DOS. The NT line (of which XP, Vista, and 7 are members) are true self contained operating systems.
In fact that's what YOU don't understand: THE-SYSTEM-IS-UNSTABLE
Oh, I have checked the hardware on my computer, it's perfectly fine (no wonder than Linux runs perfectly on it). Now, according to your logic, I should check the hardware of EVERYONE I know? Just to prove that it has nothing to do with hardware? Sorry, I don't care THAT much about what you think.
and boy do I love when hard drives physically fail and data recovery is required, when you have them by the ba!!s, they'll may anything. Thanks Microsoft
You do realize that Microsoft doesn't make hard drives and they aren't responsible when hard drives physically fail, right? That would be the manufacturer -- Seagate, WD, Samsung, Hitachi, et al.
And you've never had one of those same hard drives on a Mac go bad? I have.
That's incidentally one area where the Mac is definitely better, cloning disks (CarbonCopy, etc.).
If you are honestly seeing these issues with Vista, you should:
- Run a systems diagnostics to check for CPU problems
- Run a thorough memory tester like MemTest86, or even the memory test that Windows installs by default (option in the boot menu)
- Run your disk manufacturer's diagnostics, or a general one like SmartCtl
- Check that you have the latest video and other hardware drivers
Windows is only unstable on broken hardware, or with bad drivers. If your system is unstable, check the hardware.
Last reply from me on this - you clearly have no credibility in your claim that Windows per se is unstable, and I have no interest in starting a pointless tit-for-tat with you.
My bad, I forgot how every smug Justin Long ad is chock full of information about Apples.
Windows is only unstable on broken hardware?
The explain how Vista froze up and refused to boot, form bootcamp on my day old (at the time, one month ago) iMac
It is pointless for people to debate you too because you havea formulated opinion.
I had Vista on my old HP and it wouldnt run Roxio creator 09, it turns out that there is a driver in the microsoft laser mouse that interfers with it. What you say? that has nothing to do with Windows, well if it had a better system it wouldnt need to have to worry about that.
Sorry that i interrupted your convo here but if Justin long actually gives information about drivers and such where as this ad only states price differences and a stab (whether sarcastic or not) how Mac users are cool.
Why you would go onto a Mac forum and expect everybody to agree with your opinion is beyond me.
Here is some opinions on M$
there 360 blows (literally) every single on of their consoles breaks (HDD failure, scratching of disks, RRoD)
Windows 7 stinks, i have used all the betas and the last (secure one) the task bar disappears, programs stop after a few uses, and comes up with that lovely "Program has discovered an error and has to be shut down" error message.
I just dont get how people can defend MS's stuff and then come onto a Mac board, without their real reason being that they were looking for trouble.
My computer lives without walls. Thats why i built my own rig and im running osx86. Nobody telling me what hardware i can or cannot use, and nobody telling me what OS i can or cannot use.
You have to remember that this is part of the "Windows - Life Without Walls" campaign that they started with the weird Seinfeld ads. They are not advertising Vista, or XP, or Windows 7, or HP, or PCs or any specific product at all. The point of the campaign (or so the press releases said, anyway) was to illustrate how Windows has become a part of everyday life, whether you use it actively on your computer or not (everything from internet infrastructure to manufacturing to bank services and ATM machines... Windows is omnipresent). And this, supposedly, has created a "life without walls".
My guess is that this is precisely why they never mention Windows -- Lauren just takes it for granted when she buys the computer, just like she takes for granted that it will come with a power cord, and the fact that she never questions or discusses it is a measure of the brand strength.
So it's not about selling this or that product, it's another one of their random (well...) snapshots of "life without walls": Windows lets you keep going even when times are tight. The figurative "wall" here being a tight budget, and when she goes into the Apple Store she runs into a brick wall (the pricetags), gets an inexpensive PC, walls blown away, Lauren happy.
I'm pretty sure that's how they played it. You can disagree with the message and the presentation of course...
you obviously do not stress your wintel crapware. I have to use wintel crapware, and every time I streess the system (daily), it goes bonks every few days. This is xp running on hell, excuseme, dell system.
The one program that crashes regularly on my mac is windows running in VmWare. Go figure.
OK, then OSX is not a true operating system, because it's a GUI layer on top of Darwin.
I said hardware and drivers.
With boot camp, you're running Vista drivers provided by Apple.
'nuff said.
I figure that you should fire your entire IT department, and rehire but with competent people.
You get BSOD in Vista...?! Err... I've seen a lot of things, but never one of those. The reason being that a BSOD is something you get when a kernel-level hardware driver crashes. Since hardware drivers in Vista have been moved from Kernel mode to User mode, it means that even when a serious driver crash occurs (such as the graphics card driver, which in XP would give you a BSOD faster than you can say a 4-letter word), the screen goes blank for a few seconds and then the desktop reappears and you get a notification that the driver crashed but the system recovered. I think there are one or two really low-level hardware things that have to run in Kernel mode, but if those crash I've heard that you get a black screen of death, not a blue one. OK, you did say "BSOD" so that could mean black screen of death of course...
They don't factor in the cost of the psychotherapy you will need to pay for after using Windows Vista for two weeks!!
Yup PC life suck....
Apple ownership is a little more involved though....
Once you get an apple you will be compelled to speculate for months about an upcoming refresh, watch the keynotes with excitement, refresh the browser hundreds of times while the Apple store is down, just to see minor updates to a product you already own.....but for some reason you will really be compelled to buy it.... cost never being a factor... Naturally the new product will look cooler then the previous one.
And this is where the really tough decision comes.
A: do you b!tch about the minor update, because through all those month of speculating the community had build a SUPER computer in their assumption... and there is still no freakin Blue ray!!!
B: Defend the refresh to death, call all those in camp A: whiners!!
And as a rule, at all times you when you make reference to Vista, at least one of these words must be included when you post "Virus, BSOD, crap, *****, sucks, CPU intensive, Failed HD, Cheap etc. Having actually used Vista is optional.... not recommended in fact.
If at all possible, mention how getting a Mac has changed your life for the better.
At NO! NO! NO! point, even dare to think/acknowledge that you are in fact IT challenged (being diplomatic here), and require a computer that is as easy to operate as your TV (but not one with one of those complicated VCRs).
If you happen to be a university student, BIG bonus points, you have all the experience in the world to claim how Macs are so much better then PCs, you are after all the coolest student in class with a $3K laptop. The reality check comes when you graduate, get a real job, and suddenly your using a PC to make you living (unless your moved into multimedia).
On a more serious note. For home use, I believe that Macs are better, but they are not for the poor, and frankly the worst investment you can make is in IT gear, a smart person who had $3000 would get a $700 laptop and invest $2300 right now. Its something you get when your financially doing well, knowing that it will be worth bugger all in 5 years and do not mind throwing money at it. Smart move by Microsoft on this. There are so many people getting layed off these days, if your not sure about your position at work, you would be silly to throw $3K at a laptop..... the $700 PC will allow you to redo your CV just fine. Having said that.... I just bought a Mac Mini.... I wish i had more common sense.... but I feel cooler already....
Why? Could it not be that windows is unstable.
Like my PC repair man always says (we have three PC/window laptops) if the majority of window users would use Macs then he would be out of a job. Just one example, but still....
Actually it did happen prior to SP1, nVidia updating their craptastic drivers and some hotfixes. I had it occurr a couple of times with Civ IV: BTS.
Of course it hasn't happened for nearly a year now but it was an issue for a few months on some games.
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