Let's put it this way -- with 7 different aluminium models and one residual plastic model lingering around, which one do you think will be discontinued first (and soon-ish)?
Oh, I agree that it is more
likely to go, but that doesn't suggest that there is any immediacy to when that might be.
Yeah but I'm not asking for advice on how to de-gloss an MBP, we were talking about production costs.
And when a 3rd party solution exists, the OEM doesn't need to incur the manufacturing & inventory control expenses of offering that solution themselves.
If you haven't noticed, Apple got out of the printer business years ago. Many people are probably surprised that they're still in the display business, but there's reasons for it: if nothing else, it is an element of industrial design that needs to be present to be used for product presentation.
That's one way to put it. Another way to put it would be "happy accident". C'mon, these machines were in the pipeline long before the economic downturn, if the bubble had popped a year later they'd still be offering this very lineup.
Not really: Apple has been very consistent in the conservatism of their guidance ... such that Wall Street has actually criticized them for it.
Next, just because most people didn't see this bubble coming didn't mean that utterly no one saw it coming. There were published warnings by analysts back in 2007. And while many may have ignored warnings, this doesn't mean that absolutely everyone had to have ignored them. As such, suggest you reevaluate what happens by "Accident" versus what wasn't an accident.
Next, Apple knew that they couldn't not refresh their products, and as such, there had to have been something in the development pipeline. And if you think through what their tooling implications are for the new laptops, you'll see that it took a page out of the 'Flexible Manufacturing' bibles: their variable costs are a bit higher, but their fixed costs are lower....amongst other things, this approach is minimizing their risk exposure for a serious contraction in sales volume: its a "Recession-Proofing" strategy.
There were also many comments posted here in MacRumors of "Where's the New Stuff?" while not necessarily appreciating that with the slow-down finally becoming evident, the sales projections would have been off, so an extension of model life allowed for the inventory line to be cleared out. If you haven't noticed, there wasn't really much leftover inventory of the old models on Apple's website this time...the Mac Pro's being a particularly strong example.
And so on. If you start with the understanding that Apple's corporate philosophy for doing business is generally quite conservative and risk-adverse, you'll then recognize manifestations of this in many places: its even embedded in the current price structure of the new desktops too.
- I'm not a socialist. I embrace capitalism and its ground rules. While I never went to business school, you can run basic supply/demand principles by me without having to explain it like I was a 5-year-old.
Yet when I point out that Microsoft has a ~20:1 advantage in OS production volume, which invariably impacts operating costs by this 20:1 difference in the denominator for Fixed Costs amortization....you openly express cynicism and/or try to wave it off as insignificant, when it is clearly not.
- I'm not an Uncle Scrooge-type cheapskate.
- I wouldn't consider myself rich, but better off than the average and with a higher budget dedicated to gadgets than most.
Yet this still doesn't really address the stubbornness illustrated in the iMac warranty repair saga. You've made personal choices just so that you would have an "Axe to Grind", rather than to simply fix the problem.
- The prices of MBP 17" and MP are just about exactly what I would consider spending on computers -- if I'd go with Dell or some other PCs I'd just stuff them with more options until they're in the Apple price range, rather than save the potential surplus.
A statement that now clearly contradicts the prior claim of
"übergreed" being present. If you can admit that two Apple products are fairly priced, perhaps more are ... or even all of them.
Occam's Razor suggests that because we don't have full knowledge of everything that's going on, the most likely explanation is that there's something going on that we missed.
- The time and energy I've spent discussing Mac prices by now is starting to get a little too disproportionate to my actual, err, "fascination" for the topic -- I'm not that bothered.
Having said that, I've been racking my brain trying to formulate why I, and obviously quite a few others, feel that their business model sticks out like an sore thumb among the business models of other premium brands... but I could babble on all day without putting my finger on it.
Suggest that you consider the question in a different light, by trying to identify the "WHO" that these other so-called premium brands are.
Afterall, amongst the other major players in the PC business who doesn't use MS-Windows? And who doesn't compete across the entire price spectrum (which means that they get dragged down into the 'commodity' price structure)?
There's this off-putting audacity to the whole thing, like they're not even trying to make it look like a fair deal, just stretching the limit of what they can get away with... like they were in a meeting right now, contemplating ways of making you pay extra for the packaging or else you'll get the computer shipped with the waybill pasted directly on the enclosure.
I agree that it is somewhat frustrating that they don't offer a cheap commodity 'xMac' tower for sale, but I also recognize that a big chunk of what they're doing is managing, manipulating, defining and protecting their 'Brand'. And more significantly, I don't see it as some massively malignant scheme: afterall, Mercedes doesn't sell their A-Class in the USA, nor does Audi their A1 or A2 series, nor does your favorite of BMW offer their smaller engine variants (eg, 316i, 318i, 320i, 323i, 325i, 318d, 320d, 325d, 330d). The reality is that there's solid business reasons why they do what they do.
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