New Microsoft Ad Campaign Targets Mac Prices

[paja]

Rumors are that teams of M$ Marketing Teams are hitting all of the major Mac Web Sites and Blogs to reinforce all of the pricing myths and to add discord in the Mac community.

Read these anti Mac posts with a grain of salt. They want to sell you a bill of goods and turn people against the Mac.

 

[zyzzogeton]

2 things,

First off, that advert made me want to punch a baby.

Second, THIS LADY STILL HAS TO GO BUY A TON OF CRAP SEPARATELY...

What does Windsux have out-of-the=box? Internet explorer and minesweeper...
Plus, if windows didn't come with her laptop then she needs to go buy Winsux for another $400

Then, depending on what the hell she does with this laptop, she needs to go get Microsoft Office for ANOTHER $400. I sure as hell do not see her playing games on that computer and considering that Windows doesn't have a decent text editor out-of-the-box she is probably going to get it anyways.


RRRRAAAAAGGGGGGEEEEE

"Of course" ? No, PC's don't take that long to boot up. Not even in the world of fanboi exaggeration.

If that's true, which I doubt, take it back.

My friend has... ahem... all my friends have windows (except for about 3) and they take at least 100 years to boot up... I helped them out by turning of aero for them and that shortened it by about a decade...

 

[yossim]

Rumors are that teams of M$ Marketing Teams are hitting all of the major Mac Web Sites and Blogs to reinforce all of the pricing myths and to add discord in the Mac community.

Read these anti Mac posts with a grain of salt. They want to sell you a bill of goods and turn people against the Mac.

as if there aren't any "myths" already.

Yes I was exaggerating. the computer actually only takes about 5 minutes to load. What takes the longest is logging in to the user account.

 

[zyzzogeton]

crap sorry for the triple post, but I just looked on dell.com and they don't even sell a computer with more than a 15.6" screen

Not that it matters anyway, I have a 13" screen macbook and I have never been bothered...

 

[pr5owner]

Lauren was hot.... that's about all I got out of that commercial

I do feel bad for her, she'll have to replace that POS in a year or two b/c it will be so loaded down with viruses and spyware that it will hardly run!

i guess thats why you use a Mac, you have no idea how to maintain a PC. my computers all boot the same speed as they did when i finalized the install for windows.

they all boot more or less this speed (once the background processing cursor dissapears, the HDD's stops working and is ready to be used) >>



please show my a Mac desktop or laptop that can boot faster than that.

 

[BenRolloHayward]

Dumbass

this advert is so dumbass...

it's like saying; someone has enough money to buy a thousand pound city car, but we sent them to an aston martin dealership to see what they could get for the money... they couldn't get anything, so they got a thousand pound city car.

yeah macs cost more, mainly because they are better made, and in line with my analogy, require less 'taking to the garage' to get fixed.

if you can afford a mac, get one.

if you can't, don't.

DONE.

 

[wiseoracle]

These adds reek of desperation if you ask me. Several of my friends and family members have purchased the $499 - 799 HP/Compaq specials and most have lived to regret it. The PC build quality is poor and battery life is virtually 1.5 - 2 hrs max. They also learn quickly that this $699 nonsense means stripped not equipped!

As soon as you get the PC home, you will find that you need to purchase more software to protect and maintain operational efficiency of you beloved PC.


BASE PC $699.00

Norton 360 $80.00
Tune Up utilities $50.00
SpySweeper $25.00
Diskeeper $30.00
Nero $60.00
Office 2007 $150.00
Battery Upgrade $125.00
Headaches, etc.. $Fill in

Total $1219+ .. some savings

 

[AidenShaw]

Rumors are that teams of M$ Marketing Teams are hitting all of the major Mac Web Sites and Blogs to reinforce all of the pricing myths and to add discord in the Mac community.

Read these anti Mac posts with a grain of salt. They want to sell you a bill of goods and turn people against the Mac.

 

[zyzzogeton]

as if there aren't any "myths" already.

Yes I was exaggerating. the computer actually only takes about 5 minutes to load. What takes the longest is logging in to the user account.

5 minutes sounds about right, and it's not even the logging on that takes the longest, it's when after you've logged on and you are waiting for your computer to be functional enough to use.

 

[WeegieMac]

2 things,

First off, that advert made me want to punch a baby.

Second, THIS LADY STILL HAS TO GO BUY A TON OF CRAP SEPARATELY...

What does Windsux have out-of-the=box? Internet explorer and minesweeper...
Plus, if windows didn't come with her laptop then she needs to go buy Winsux for another $400

Then, depending on what the hell she does with this laptop, she needs to go get Microsoft Office for ANOTHER $400. I sure as hell do not see her playing games on that computer and considering that Windows doesn't have a decent text editor out-of-the-box she is probably going to get it anyways.


RRRRAAAAAGGGGGGEEEEE

Posts like this do not help Mac users one little bit.

Punch a baby? Winsux?

I'm one of the hugest Mac fans you can find but come on.

 

[3282868]

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Companies have been known to hire teams to monitor and frequent internet sites of competition as well as discussion based communities as another form of advertising. Referred to as "Viral Marketing", producer J.J. Abrams has done such techniques for years (one such example is with the movie "Cloverfield" in which advertising teams were hired to set up fake websites as well as frequenting websites and forums in order to promote a particular movie or show such as Alias). While I doubt it is extreme, it's not unheard of in this day and age. In fact, it has proven quite an effective marketing tool.

 

[pr5owner]

The most important piece is the motherboard.

sure is Tom, and that Mobo is made by Asus, if its a laptop were talking about, its made by Hon Hai.

so your next statement will probably be ram, Apple uses value crucial ram with no heatsinking, high latency, (just cheap ram, not higher end gaming or overclocking ram)

 

[zyzzogeton]

>Price = >Quality

I don't think people have learned that yet.

Although there are a lot of exceptions to that rule, I have found that many open source CLI based programs run better than commercial GUI programs.

 

[123]

In '05 I bought my first own Mac (G4 mini) and while OS X was certainly more stable at this point than OS8 and 9 ever were, it was far from rock solid -- the worst crash magnet probably being Safari, with Finder as a close second.

Nice story. So, how much work did you lose because Finder crashed and respawned? And what does Safari have to do with OS stability?

Both Windows (XP or later) and OS X are stable enough for anyone to get through the workday (one crash won't kill you unless you forgot to save since morning).

I can't talk about Vista, but XP is most certainly not stable enough. Hardly a day goes by without my being forced to restart the system. And yes, a crash is unacceptable as it kills my workflow.

 

[zyzzogeton]

Posts like this do not help Mac users one little bit.

Punch a baby? Winsux?

I'm one of the hugest Mac fans you can find but come on.

Why would that help a mac user? If they have a mac then it wouldn't matter whether they read that or not...

 

[yossim]

These adds reek of desperation if you ask me. Several of my friends and family members have purchased the $499 - 799 HP/Compaq specials and most have lived to regret it. The PC build quality is poor and battery life is virtually 1.5 - 2 hrs max. They also learn quickly that this $699 nonsense means stripped not equipped!

As soon as you get the PC home, you will find that you need to purchase more software to protect and maintain operational efficiency of you beloved PC.


BASE PC $699.00

Norton 360 $80.00
Tune Up utilities $50.00
SpySweeper $25.00
Diskeeper $30.00
Nero $60.00
Office 2007 $150.00
Battery Upgrade $125.00
Headaches, etc.. $Fill in

Total $1219+ .. some savings

Couldn't have said it any better.
not to mention all the worthless trial software that comes preinstalled...

 

[Bubba Satori]

2 things,

First off, that advert made me want to punch a baby.

Second, THIS LADY STILL HAS TO GO BUY A TON OF CRAP SEPARATELY...

What does Windsux have out-of-the=box? Internet explorer and minesweeper...
Plus, if windows didn't come with her laptop then she needs to go buy Winsux for another $400

Then, depending on what the hell she does with this laptop, she needs to go get Microsoft Office for ANOTHER $400. I sure as hell do not see her playing games on that computer and considering that Windows doesn't have a decent text editor out-of-the-box she is probably going to get it anyways.


RRRRAAAAAGGGGGGEEEEE

 

[zyzzogeton]

i guess thats why you use a Mac, you have no idea how to maintain a PC. my computers all boot the same speed as they did when i finalized the install for windows.

they all boot more or less this speed (once the background processing cursor dissapears, the HDD's stops working and is ready to be used) >>

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please show my a Mac desktop or laptop that can boot faster than that.

I use a mac because I have had a PC since I was four, and I can tell you right now that computer definitely do not boot at the same speed.

Maybe when they are running without an OS, yes they do, but when you are loading 10 gb of Cache from Vista then you are definitely not going to start working on your design project in the next 10 minutes

 

[pr5owner]

These adds reek of desperation if you ask me. Several of my friends and family members have purchased the $499 - 799 HP/Compaq specials and most have lived to regret it. The PC build quality is poor and battery life is virtually 1.5 - 2 hrs max. They also learn quickly that this $699 nonsense means stripped not equipped!

As soon as you get the PC home, you will find that you need to purchase more software to protect and maintain operational efficiency of you beloved PC.


BASE PC $699.00

Norton 360 $80.00
Tune Up utilities $50.00
SpySweeper $25.00
Diskeeper $30.00
Nero $60.00
Office 2007 $150.00
Battery Upgrade $125.00
Headaches, etc.. $Fill in

Total $1219+ .. some savings

LOL Norton? SERIOUSLY? i hope to God that you are not an IT guy.
Tune up utilities....... last time i checked CCleaner is free
spysweeper and Norton can both replaced by the best AV at this time, Antivir, guess what, its FREE (second place is ESET smart security, third is Bit defender and AVG)
Diskeeper Lite is free, Diskeeper is more for domain/network maintainence.
nero? cdburner xp is free, and most of the time nero basic comes with the comptuers for free.
office 2007, openoffice/staroffice is FREE
battery upgrade? WTF? it should last at least 2 years before dropping to 50% capacity


build quality poor? HP/Compaq laptops are made by both Quanta and Compal, Apple used to use Quanta to build macbookpros, but now they are using Hon Hai.

you also are forgetting that alot of people will DBAN the HDD and install ubuntu or linux mint (both of these OS's are DEAD easy to install with a live CD setup environment)

Ubuntu has more software built in on a 700MB disc than OSX and XP/Vista also ubuntu has a massive repository for free software

you remind me of that mactard at work that wanted to spend $3500+ just so he could

get a MBP, install XP to add to the domain (boot camp) then buy VMWARE ace workstation, and run OSX in that vmware workstation, then get another copy of iwork or whatever the apple equiv to office is just so he wouldnt have to email files back and forth between his MBA and Dell work laptop.

 

[DMann]

Rumors are that teams of M$ Marketing Teams are hitting all of the major Mac Web Sites and Blogs to reinforce all of the pricing myths and to add discord in the Mac community.

Read these anti Mac posts with a grain of salt. They want to sell you a bill of goods and turn people against the Mac.

And they have been about as effective as the 'Mojave' experiment was for selling Vista.

 

[pr5owner]

I use a mac because I have had a PC since I was four, and I can tell you right now that computer definitely do not boot at the same speed.

Maybe when they are running without an OS, yes they do, but when you are loading 10 gb of Cache from Vista then you are definitely not going to start working on your design project in the next 10 minutes

actaully it does, thats my hometheatre PC, all it does is stream videos off the NAS, surf the net, chat on MSN (sometimes)

my desktop starts slightly slower (maybe 5 seconds slower) becuase it needs to load alot of vmware drivers but the start time has not changed.

why? i do regular maintainence.

also with vista, you dont have to cache boot and app files, you can tell superfetch to only cache boot files. by default it caches everything so all apps open quickly, most users do not shutdown vista so they dont need to load the cache again. (by default vista will sleep instead of power off)

 

[yossim]

And they have been about as effective as the 'Mojave' experiment was for selling Vista.

was that almost forcing people to buy it with their new computer?

 

[pr5owner]

this advert is so dumbass...

it's like saying; someone has enough money to buy a thousand pound city car, but we sent them to an aston martin dealership to see what they could get for the money... they couldn't get anything, so they got a thousand pound city car.

yeah macs cost more, mainly because they are better made, and in line with my analogy, require less 'taking to the garage' to get fixed.

if you can afford a mac, get one.

if you can't, don't.

DONE.

please explain to me how they are better made,

#1 apple does not make a single peice of HW
#2 your ram is made by crucial, the EXACT same modules are used in Compaq and HP Laptops (sometimes even made in the same week) the cas timings and latency are the same
#3 your apple laptop most likely has a cheap seagate drive inside (not 7200RPM, not 16MB cache, not a hybrid drive) guess what, in the latest comparison tests seagate drives fall a little short in speed and performance to WD scorpio drives
#4 the LCD panel on your mac is most likely an LG panel, dell uses the same ODM for their LCDs too
#5 the assembly of the macbooks are all made by Hon Hai in Shenzen china (chinese made, but everyone knows the highest quality laptops come from taiwan, MBP's used to come from taiwan but now are made in china becuase its cheaper)
#6 most of apples motherboards are made by Asus, why would asus make a higher quality motherboard for SOMEONE ELSE than themselves (asus manufactures like 10 diffrent laptop lines, most of them being higher quality than apple)

Apple is NOT the best, they do not give you the best value or performance. you are just paying 2x the price for an OS that runs on limited hw

 

[pwn247]

please explain to me how they are better made,
#6 most of apples motherboards are made by Asus, why would asus make a higher quality motherboard for SOMEONE ELSE than themselves (asus manufactures like 10 diffrent laptop lines, most of them being higher quality than apple)

LOL.

Bro, Mac motherboards are made by Intel + Apple, not ASUS. The exact specifications of the motherboards are custom-made, and are considered a trade secret by Apple Inc.

you are just paying 2x the price for an OS that runs on limited hw

What? If anything, PC hardware is limited seeing as it can't run OS X.

 

[123]

(asus manufactures like 10 diffrent laptop lines, most of them being higher quality than apple)

Please name 6.