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Look. Wouldn't it be logical to take a REAL person, randomly, and offer him/her money? Why did they need to use an actress?

The Apple commercial featured real celebrities, not actors pretending to be celebrities.
Ellen Feiss was hardly a celebrity, just some random chick who wanted a free meal and they said hey, let's stick her in the commercial. She wasn't a Mac user and the stuff she said about a PC "devouring half her paper" was just ad-libbed garbage. And what makes you think these "real celebrities" are actual Mac users? Are Seinfeld and Longoria actual PC users because they happened to be in Windows commercials? These people will promote anything for money. The music hardware business is full of "endorsement" ads that idiots fall for, 5 minutes after the photo shoot the artist throws the product away.
 
I will gladly give Apple a bit more of my money cause I know their going to use it for innovation rather then copying like Microsoft

They are, sure. Still, I like the direction the PC makers, Apple, and Microsoft must all travel with increased competition. As long as they are really vying for my business, I'll reap the benefit of the innovation. :apple:
 
Apple people will continue to be Apple people, MS people will continue to be MS people......and they'll continue to hate each other.

And according to your signature you own both a Mac and a PC. How conflicted and tortured you must be.

Be strong and rise above it! You can be both a Mac and PC and not hate yourself! I know you can do it!
 
Congratulations

The Mac fan boys, blogs and now even the mainstream press have their sphincters so puckered over this, Microsoft has gotten more free publicity that they could ever have dreamed up.

Nice work guys.

Isn't that the point of Advertising??? :eek:

Just showed it to my friends who are Mac fans - they liked it and thought it's good for Microsoft to start "fighting back".

:D
 
When I use Windows, I feel like I've been completely ripped off. Every single cent I spent for that PC, completely wasted.
Then you're not very good at getting value out of things, I suppose. The PC I'm typing on now and used since 2006, I've made... let's see... about $350,000 worth of work on, and as much or more on my desktop PC, so the investment has paid back... 175 times the investment? Woah. Guess I should buy computers more often...

When I use OS X, I feel that my computer is completely worth every single cent I paid for it.

And quite a lot of people feel the same.
Good for you. I on the other hand feel that I'm getting roughly the same value from an OSX machine as a Vista PC, in slightly different ways but generally the same.
 
Then you're not very good at getting value out of things, I suppose. The PC I'm typing on now and used since 2006, I've made... let's see... about $350,000 worth of work on, and as much or more on my desktop PC, so the investment has paid back... 175 times the investment? Woah. Guess I should buy computers more often...


Good for you. I on the other hand feel that I'm getting roughly the same value from an OSX machine as a Vista PC, in slightly different ways but generally the same.

You don't seem good at getting value out of the Macs, either. :rolleyes:
 
In what way? Apart from price, the machines are pretty similar.

Both have dual core processors, both have 4GB RAM, both have a 17" screen, both have a 320GB hard drive, both have a DVD-RW drive, both have built in webcams, both have a one year warranty.

The only area where the MacBook Pro will likely outperform the HP is in battery life, but then, I don't want to be one to fall for Apple's marketing garbage on that. I'm promised 5 hours on my MacBook, I get closer to 2 and a half.

Macs work in a whole different way, they use RAM in an entirely different way which is another reason why macs cant get viruses or spyware...

My parents recently bought a new laptop for £400, which is probably near $700 or maybe more, it has vista on it and 2GB of RAM, but i have never seen such bad build quality in my life.

It feels so...takky and empty inside, it feels as if the parts are cheaply made and badly built and put together, never once have i come to my MacBook and that has come to my mind. Theres a reason even in the recession the percentage of mac buyers is increasing, its because they want products that will have a longer lasting life.

I got my macbook a year ago and nothing is broken and its just as fast as it was back then, even faster in my eyes. Yet a windows laptop my parents have had for a similar amount of time and hardly used, has had its screen snapped off from wear and tare mixed in with gravity -.-.

My internet suddenly rejected the vista laptop as well, for no reason :S, every computer in my house works fine except the vista one which is brand new!

Rant over, i hate comparing macbooks and windows laptops :/
 
Apple probably could have made a lot of money licensing the OSX to be used on PCs, but they would lose some control, and who would buy their own expensive hardware if any grey box would do?

Nice thought though; you could consider any machine, and make your own choice between windows, OSX or Linux. I guess Microsoft would not be happy at all.

Lots of people have been doing this for some time now, and being able to run osx on the hardware of your choice (ohhh the morality) makes this price premium point even more valid (to IT enthusiasts anyway).

I'd love to see it, but I think apple would be the ones that lose out most (profit) if they free'd up their OS, even if they grabbed a large share of the os desktop market. I think the small niche, trendy, celebrity endorsed image works for them though, unfortunately.
I think they already have the opportunity to sell to many more people if they reduced their prices, especially on machines like the mini. Is it an entry level pc? Or just 'the cheapest mac'? I don't really know, but I'd like one (or three) and I'd recommend them to loads of people that come to me from IT buying advice, but only if they actually tried something 'innovative' (a word wrongly[?] splashed about here) and really sold them at an aggressive price - As unlikely as osx being open to use on any machine I guess.
 
Then you're not very good at getting value out of things, I suppose. The PC I'm typing on now and used since 2006, I've made... let's see... about $350,000 worth of work on, and as much or more on my desktop PC, so the investment has paid back... 175 times the investment? Woah. Guess I should buy computers more often...

You would have made more on a Mac......

Just kidding, couldn't resist.
 
And according to your signature you own both a Mac and a PC. How conflicted and tortured you must be.

Be strong and rise above it! You can be both a Mac and PC and not hate yourself! I know you can do it!

Did you read a post I made a few up? Guess not. Here ya go:

Me said:
What am I elitist about? I am not elitist against Apple, I have a Mac. I'm not elitist against Windows, I've got a Thinkpad. I'm not elitist against Linux, I run it on several PC's and servers.

I'm elitist against blind fanboys, absolutely.
 
It's funny how heated people are getting over this commercial. Apple rips on Microsoft all the time. Now when Microsoft makes a commercial that criticizes Apple's high prices, people flip their ****!!! How about everyone just chooses the computers that they like and stop worrying about what others think.
 
Performance; one years old mac laptop vs one year windows laptop

I think ad tries to fool people and keep them away from the fact. I have my MBP vs my bro dell laptop (he has the same configuration as mine, expect the gpu). We bought the laptop in the same year. after one year, his laptop needs 4 minutes to start (He thinks to replace it with the new MBP) & mine needs only 50 second. The performance of PC Laptop decline by time passing. first the battery; then the system become slow, next format is needed. My main question; Where is the saving? in buying another pc laptop every two years?
 
I think ad tries to fool people and keep them away from the fact. I have my MBP vs my bro dell laptop (he has the same configuration as mine, expect the gpu). We bought the laptop in the same year. after one year, his laptop needs 4 minutes to start (He thinks to replace it with the new MBP) & mine needs only 50 second. The performance of PC Laptop decline by time passing. first the battery; then the system become slow, next format is needed. My main question; Where is the saving? in buying another pc laptop every two years?

Another personal anecdote of why machine A. is better than machine B.

Windows shouldn't take 4 minutes to start. Something isn't right. My Thinkpad takes the same amount of time to boot as my MBP.
 
I think ad tries to fool people and keep them away from the fact. I have my MBP vs my bro dell laptop (he has the same configuration as mine, expect the gpu). We bought the laptop in the same year. after one year, his laptop needs 4 minutes to start (He thinks to replace it with the new MBP) & mine needs only 50 second. The performance of PC Laptop decline by time passing. first the battery; then the system become slow, next format is needed. My main question; Where is the saving? in buying another pc laptop every two years?

When he gets rid of it, make sure you don't try and fool anyone with your sales advert - make sure everyone understands that it takes 5mins to boot and must be broken.
 
You would have made more on a Mac......

Just kidding, couldn't resist.
;)

That's actually true.

I've worked with Windows for much longer and even if I know my way around OS X well enough, Finder and the Mac desktop paradigm clashes a little with my workflow. Not in a big way, but enough for me to have to spend maybe 8 hrs 15 min on something that would've taken me 8 hours on PC. Now, since I charge by the hour most of the time, that means I'd have one more hour of work for every 4 workdays, and accumulated over a year it would be something like 90 more hours to get paid for, and for that I could buy an MBP 17" and a Mac Pro.

Stupid plan though.
 
Here's the laptop she got for $700
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...+17+inch+laptop&type=product&id=1218041148373
It may be 17", but it's got poor resolution for the screen size, slower ram, questonable CPU, rubbish battery, 100Mb (not gigabit) ethernet, G wireless, shared graphics memory. Comes with Vista, the list goes on.

There's a reason it's cheap...

As of the middle of last year, most of Apple's consumer mac models had shared video memory. What was Apple's excuse then? How convenient for you to forget that.

The low price, large screen & low resolution would be perfect for my parents, and probably just about anyone over 40, my parents are about 50. My parents certainly don't need the Mac 17" model's pro features but could benefit from a larger screen, and not for high res reasons. I can't say I'd necessarily be happy with Vista, and it is a much lesser computer, but for the $2000 price difference and the users in question, it's actually not a bad deal. If you're young and playing system intensive games, then it's not an appropriate product, but they are different markets.

I want my parents to get a Mac, but I would probably have to pay the difference. For me, PCs aren't so terrible that it's an unworkable proposition to use one.
 
It's funny how heated people are getting over this commercial. Apple rips on Microsoft all the time. Now when Microsoft makes a commercial that criticizes Apple's high prices, people flip their ****!!! How about everyone just chooses the computers that they like and stop worrying about what others think.

Hey, this chain is fun. Never have understood why someone pops in and tries to stop others from having valid discussions. Especially the idiots who think we have a thing to do with what the bloggers and press say or don't say.
 
There's a bit of ignorance here - some US states do not have sales tax. One reference says that includes Alaska, Oregon, Montana, Delaware, and New Hampshire.

Also, in California, it is not uncommon for stores to have "no sales tax" sales. They give a discount equal to the sales tax, so you walk out paying the sticker price.

But anyway, it's a fricking ad - not a court deposition. Do you want to start of list of misleading and incorrect claims that Apple has made in ads?

(Hint: Look at any ad where Apple uses the word "First" or "Fastest". You'll almost always find something earlier or faster. Case in point - "First 64-bit Desktop" was an outright lie.)

By the way, the "Mac Store" in the ad is the Santa Monica store....
Thanks.

I still believe it was a paid actress and that sales tax wasn't included because the price would have been > $699.99, ruining some of the effect of the ad.

Apple isn't all holy either with their ads, I know. Its just a stupid commercial and it gets on my nerves, and I am not an Apple fanboy either. I prefer Apple these days as I have an iPhone and a unibody MacBook Pro, and I appreciate how much smoother the OS is and the wonderful build quality of the unibody MBP. When Windows 7 comes out, I look forward to putting a partition on my MBP as well. I also have an XBox 360 and love Live. I'm a technology fanboy.
 
Thanks.

I still believe it was a paid actress and that sales tax wasn't included because the price would have been > $699.99, ruining some of the effect of the ad.

Sales tax wasn't included because this was filmed in Oregon. There is no sales tax in that state.
 
I still believe it was a paid actress and that sales tax wasn't included because the price would have been > $699.99, ruining some of the effect of the ad.

Maybe she purchased it in Delaware.

I still want to believe she is available so I can be her Mac Daddy.
 
Did you read a post I made a few up? Guess not. Here ya go:

You talked about Microsoft and Apple hating each other, in a non-specific way. Not knowing if you were talking about the companies or their users, I just took the information in your signature and made a leap.

Just trying to add some levity to the dour tone of your post.
 
What kind of losers feel compelled to write an article about how the ad is "fake"? These are probably 35-old men who have seen 6,000 commercials, and they actually thought that all of them were REAL until now?

I could ask you the same question, that being that what kind of losers flock to a Mac forum to tell Mac users that they are elitist snobs while being hypocrites in the process and force feeding us why Windows is so great or less inferior to OS X than some Mac users believe.

Now, I know you'll read that and rush that mouse pointer over to "Quote" and consider replying with some nonsense about how you are here to hear "different opinions" or "hear from a wider Mac demographic instead of rabid fanboys", but I'm sorry that's the biggest load of ***** going. I believe you, not as much as a few others in fairness, are here to try and get a rise out of the Mac community here.

I know the Mac is not "perfect" but it's as near as damn to it compared to Windows in my opinion. Windows does not make the computer a pleasure to use, it almost works against the user where OS X 99% of the time feels like it's helping make your computing life that little bit more hassle free. Of course there was Windows and OS X users who have had problems as much as there are those who have had absolutely nothing go wrong.

It's just becoming really tiresome reading the same handful of PC "fanboys" (if you lot can through the term around, so can we) tell us why Windows is not inferior to OS X, defend Windows when it's slated, bang on about PC components, yet when the Mac users here do the same with their views on the Mac you quite simply flat out refuse to accept what's being said and try valiantly to argue back with something, anything ... it's like a competition to see who gets the last word in at times.

I will quite happily sit here and discuss computers with anyone, I love technology, my wife is a widow to the stuff .... but when people come and start throwing around the "fanboy" **** that you read from 16 year olds on video game forums, that's when I get annoyed and begin asking questions.

If there's two things I cannot stand it's liars and hypocrites, and this thread is full of newbie hypocrites who on one hand will slate Mac users while defending Windows and PC's, yet they can't see that they themselves are doing the exact same thing the Mac users they're slating are doing.

The term vicious circle comes to mind.

I like Mac's, I like OS X, I find Windows to be a cumbersome, bug ridden operating system that hinders more than it helps. That's my opinion, it's formed on experience, and someone ramming pro-Windows posts in my face isn't going to make me rush out and buy a PC ... not when Vista is installed via Boot Camp on my iMac.
 
…BMW cuts corners too

Of course, but they are good at it. There´s nothing like cutting corners in a BMW.

On topic. Isn´t Microsoft just stating the obvious; you can´t get a top-of-the-range 17" with half-decent specs from any company, be it Apple, HP, Sony or Dell? Want 17" for $1,000.00? Settle for the sub-par.

I´m pretty happy Apple doesn´t offer a 17" with MacBook resolution. They came close enough with the horrendous 14" iBook…

However, I do wish Apple did offer more options. I´m in the market and I have a hard time deciding which model to settle for. Nothing in the desktop ranges suits my needs; it´s either dead donkey, 24" mirrors or total overkill, and the only portable with a matte screen is, well, not that portable. But it will take more than $1,000.00 shots from MS to leave OSX, even though the Apple computer range is at its lamest in my memory.
 
Another personal anecdote of why machine A. is better than machine B.

Windows shouldn't take 4 minutes to start. Something isn't right. My Thinkpad takes the same amount of time to boot as my MBP.

I am afraid that happened to every pc laptop I've used & the last one (toshiba tecra m7) my third laptop in 4 years, infected with viruses & all (poor) IT people trials to solved had failed. I am sorry to say that when windows laptop becomes old, their performance decrease dramatically.
 
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