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ViViDboarder said:
Any directory is fine. It's easy to put it in your /var/mobile/ directory (standard user's home directory) then you can run the command.
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I was going to attempt to uninstall Mobile Substrate, but it showed it would also remove everything i installed with Cydia. Yikes!

I cancelled that operation. lol

I think I will just install Mobile Substrate 0.9.3072-1. I am guessing it will overwrite EVERYTHING that Mobile Substrate 0.9.3087-1 installed? In other words, it should be like I never updated to 0.9.3087-1?
 
Original 2G iPhone here, with 3.0
Noticed feedback in Rock that mentioned newer update (early hours of this morning) on Cydia, and with no mention of an update at all in Icy, I reluctantly used Cydia.
No disrespect intended Jay, but your Reboot routine has always sucked for me, since updating to 3.0.
Anyway, as I always do now, as soon as Cydia needs a Respring or Reboot, SBSettings gets used.
Glad to say, not seeing any negatives (thus far) with 3087, and 3051 was fine itself, which I'd held off updating to, for a fair while - too many instances of having to Restore the iPhone, that once it was working fine, I left it well alone!

So, to those who've had the infinite loop from using Cydia's Reboot option, I say switch off and back on again, the old fashioned way, and then install SBSettings (if you haven't already) and use that from now on - you'll save yourself a world of grief, I promise you.
Those sitting on the fence about this update - I've been fine, and that's with running:
libhide
prefloader
5dock
dimdelay
clockhide (for iHTC weatherclock lockscreen)
winterboard

Hope that is of some help.
 
For me anyway, everything seems fine now since updating to 0.9.3087-1 <knock on wood>.

Updated to 0.9.3072-1 the night it came out (before I saw this thread) and next day had sluggish response and a springboard crash (scared the bejeezus out of me! :eek:). I didn't know how to go back so I went forward to 0.9.3087-1 and the response is snappier (not sure if it is like before the upgrades, but close) and no more springboard crashes. :D

Thanks for everyone's posts and help...
 
I updated last night fine. Plugged my iPhone in and let him charge all night. Today my battery is draining at a rate of 1-2% every 2 minutes. :rolleyes:

I'm going to rejailbreak and only install the MMS for 2G hack. This is the reason I hate jailbreaking, something is always just slightly off. Makes me ALMOST want to go back to AT&T for the 3GS.
 
gvrider said:
I was going to attempt to uninstall Mobile Substrate, but it showed it would also remove everything i installed with Cydia. Yikes!

I cancelled that operation. lol

I think I will just install Mobile Substrate 0.9.3072-1. I am guessing it will overwrite EVERYTHING that Mobile Substrate 0.9.3087-1 installed? In other words, it should be like I never updated to 0.9.3087-1?
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Yea, because of dependencies it would definitely remove all the things that rely on it. You'd have to install them again after you reinstall Mobile Substrate.

If you just run the old deb file, I think it will be as if you didn't ever upgrade, but I'm not sure. I don't know if I've ever actually downgraded anything.
 
gvrider said:
I was going to attempt to uninstall Mobile Substrate, but it showed it would also remove everything i installed with Cydia. Yikes!
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Well, it shouldn't uninstall everything, just those things which depend on MS. That includes most tweaks and hacks (Five Icon Dock, Winterboard, Backgrounder, Kirikae, etc.) which have to hook into system processes, but not stand-alone apps like most games, VLC, etc.
 
thelatinist said:
Well, it shouldn't uninstall everything, just those things which depend on MS. That includes most tweaks and hacks (Five Icon Dock, Winterboard, Backgrounder, Kirikae, etc.) which have to hook into system processes, but not stand-alone apps like most games, VLC, etc.
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You are correct. Obviously everything was a bit of an exageration, but there were quite a few things in the list.

As much as I don't want to, I guess I will do a complete restore and start from scratch. Even though all this started after the Mobile Substrate update, and I did not update or install anything around the same time or afterwards, it must not be the Mobile Substrate. I say that, because I don't know of anyone else having the problems I am having.
 
ViViDboarder said:
You can also try to remove MobileSubstrate and see if it works. Then you can reinstall it again after if it uninstalling it fixed things. Otherwise I guess you'd have to downgrade. I think you'd have to find one of the old .deb files somewhere to do that then you can run it with iFile or from the command line as root with
Code: 
dpkg -i packagename.deb

Good luck.
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Hello ! I already posted a link to the last stable MS.deb file in this thread....post 22
 
I tried downgrading to Mobile Substrate 0.9.3072-1, but it didn't resolve the problem, nor did 0.9.3051-1. Long story short, I ended up having to remove the backup iTunes did yesterday morning, when I tried to reinstall one of the many apps that no longer worked, then did a restore in DFU mode. My iPhone is about 95% back now, with the newest Mobile Substrate, and everything is working fine. I think this is just "one of those things".

I did learn the value of saving a backup of my fully "restored" iPhone, prior to JB. If I ever encounter something like this again, I should be able to get back to pre-JB mode, rather easily. Also, PkgBackup worked great for restoring all my Cydia apps. I highly recommend it.
 
ViViDboarder said:
What guy? Saurik? The guy who is responsible for so much of the software that makes jailbreaking a phone worth while? That guy?
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yea that guy - i got better things to do then spending an hour getting my phone back to how it was. i think a lot of people would've appreciate a simple warning that this version is unstable and can brick some phones.
 
s2darth said:
yea that guy - i got better things to do then spending an hour getting my phone back to how it was. i think a lot of people would've appreciate a simple warning that this version is unstable and can brick some phones.
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First... Didn't brick any phones. I suppose he probably has better things to do than spend unpaid dev time creating Cydia, or any of the frameworks that all your lovely plugins that don't work right now use either.

Yea... I suppose you're right. You shouldn't bother using MS or Cydia or anything free for that matter. Waste of time.

He obviously didn't realize that it was going to be unstable on that many devices. Many people updated just fine, me included. He always does test applications before releasing them. All done at a loss for him. If you don't want to update or use his software then that's fine.
 
@s2darth

s2darth said:
I just lost major respect for that guy
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ViViDboarder said:
What guy? Saurik? The guy who is responsible for so much of the software that makes jailbreaking a phone worth while? That guy?
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You really don't know much about the jailbreaking community, do you. If so, you would never make a statement like this about Jay (Saurik).

As ViViDboarder stated, he is the biggest reason why after you JB your phone, you can then modify it. All the stuff you take for granted that you install thru Cydia.

These things happen with updates, responsible developers fix them quickly.
 
s2darth said:
yea that guy - i got better things to do then spending an hour getting my phone back to how it was. i think a lot of people would've appreciate a simple warning that this version is unstable and can brick some phones.
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Since you have such a busy busy life, perhaps it would be clever not to update blindly. I'm surprised that your lack of free time even allows you to mess around with Jailbreaking. :rolleyes:
 
dhlizard said:
@s2darth





You really don't know much about the jailbreaking community, do you. If so, you would never make a statement like this about Jay (Saurik).

As ViViDboarder stated, he is the biggest reason why after you JB your phone, you can then modify it. All the stuff you take for granted that you install thru Cydia.

These things happen with updates, responsible developers fix them quickly.
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I'm not saying I don't have ANY respect for him. I'm just saying that level went down. Com'on if you make an update and it causes the phone to brick - that's pretty much a fail in my book.

And yes - this update definitely does brick some phones, that's the reason why this thread was created in the first place. After you hit the reboot button in cydia the phone hangs on the apple boot screen and shuts off. I'm using a 32gb 3gs 3.1.2 with blackra1n.

darngooddesign said:
Since you have such a busy busy life, perhaps it would be clever not to update blindly. I'm surprised that your lack of free time even allows you to mess around with Jailbreaking. :rolleyes:
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Yea I tried not to update blindly but again the dev doesn't even specify what this update does. And I'm not going to google every single update I do for everything.

ViViDboarder said:
Or creating MR accounts for the only purpose of bashing a dev... :p
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and YES - if you create an update that bricks some phones you should (and deserve to) be bashed at least...
 
s2darth said:
I'm not saying I don't have ANY respect for him. I'm just saying that level went down. Com'on if you make an update and it causes the phone to brick - that's pretty much a fail in my book.

And yes - this update definitely does brick some phones, that's the reason why this thread was created in the first place. After you hit the reboot button in cydia the phone hangs on the apple boot screen and shuts off. I'm using a 32gb 3gs 3.1.2 with blackra1n.



Yea I tried not to update blindly but again the dev doesn't even specify what this update does. And I'm not going to google every single update I do for everything.



and YES - if you create an update that bricks some phones you should (and deserve to) be bashed at least...
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If you really think your phone is bricked I'll take it off your hands for 20 bucks.

If you know what you're doing you'd realize you can just restore your phone or SSH into it during the boot cycle and remove MS.

And no, the dev doesn't deserve to be bashed. What should happen is you email the dev for support with info such as Model, Versions, what Dylibs you have so the Dev can FIX the issue.

What good does bashing the Dev do? Should he just quit releasing his work publically so people stop bashing him? Think...
 
ok I got a better idea - let's compromise and pretend that nothing is wrong with this update. no problems at all! none.
 
s2darth said:
ok I got a better idea - let's compromise and pretend that nothing is wrong with this update. no problems at all! none.
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Whatever, it's your phone.

Just saying, reporting specific issues and relevant info to the dev gets you farther than bashing him.

But since there are no problems it's all good!!!! :p
 
I'm late to the party here, but sounds like Jay is getting a bad rap. What we are doing to our phones is at our own risk so I don't see where anyone gets off complaining about a guy that has done so much good for free.
 
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