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I think I'm leaning towards both models coming out. A mass market 4s model for China etc. & iphone 5 the likes of us sheep. A mere update after all this time would see many jump ship & join Android,but an ipad 2 like iphone 5 that you can actually make calls on, would be awesome. I am one those people waiting & if they just come with a 4s update,I'm buying a white Galaxy S2 the day after the conference,or I'll be queing up for a design classic with the fanboys....
 
Rumors are starting to get tired, old, and repetitive... apple... make the ****ing announcement already. I'm really getting tired of all of the talk.
 
A quick note for all you people going on about activation over the air, do you seriously think that in a mass production manufacturing situation Apple would use wireless over cable? Also when the phone are produced they have a testing image installed which is then replaced with the real image.

As I've told you before 2 phones are in development/production. The production ramp ups are well and truly underway and understand that as part of the manufacturing process the testing and IOS installation on the devices is the very last thing before they are put in boxes and shipped. So just because IOS 5 isn't GM'd yet doesn't mean they aren't manufacturing the hardware of the phones

Jeez people, get a grip.
 
I think the 4s rumours are just to throw everyone off the scent. Apple has been rediculously good at covering up everything this year. It is strange there hasn't been anything leaked about the new form factor, especially when you think of all the different manufacturers, but perhaps they (apple) has really locked everything down on pain of death.
 
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Boring! give me iphone 5. 15+ months for a multi billion dollar company they should have a line of 10 iphones by now

I continue to believe there are 2 phones being introduced. Given that assumption, there is quit a lot of stuff Apple is tackling in a single launch: iPhone 5, iPhone 4S, Addition US carrier(s), iCloud and iTunes Match (including firing up their new data center), iOS 5, iCloud integration into Lion (which itself was released only 2 months ago), iCloud support in Windows... whew.

That's really pushing things pretty hard all at once. The delay makes perfect sense in that context. Plus, Jobs resigned just a month before the launch is to happen.

*AHEM AHEM!* iPods too! I hope the iPod touch gets a lot more than just a new color... This is gonna be an enormous event. :)
 
I think I might go for the iPhone 5 (if it does come out this year...). Using the 3GS now, and starting to feel its age!
 
Thank god, it looks like the iPhone 5 will keep the same industrial design instead of going back to that cheap looking bevel!
 
I totally agree with the WSJ and all the other places that have claimed that Apple will release two iPhones, a 4S and a 5 but will have a slight delay.

The 4S will be released in October and the 5 will be released later....



.... around June 2012.

They wouldn't announce an iPhone would a shipping date almost a year later...
 
Sim Card

I guess they are not doing a digital sim card. anyone able to tell if the CDMA components are there as well?
 
I highly doubt this will be the physical look of the new iPhone.

The grill ambient/proximity sensor at the top is that of the prototype iPhone 4s. By now they've clearly used other covers for production i4s and my prototype's grill sensor absolutely sucks in outside lighting conditions.

I believe these may be true with regards to the internals, but the external case can't be accurate.
 
The display is def aftermarket the head phone jack appears to be black and resembles the leaked ones we had seen posted earlier on this site which leads me to believe that it might possibly be an iPhone 4s/5 with an aftermarket display I wish someone could find out what the memory specs are of the phone in the picture that way we would know for sure..
 
I knew they'd release two this year to make up for the passover at WWDC.

I don't see how religion has anything to do with this.

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I think the 4s rumours are just to throw everyone off the scent. Apple has been rediculously good at covering up everything this year. It is strange there hasn't been anything leaked about the new form factor, especially when you think of all the different manufacturers, but perhaps they (apple) has really locked everything down on pain of death.

And we faked the moon landings too.

I'm afraid Jody Foster said it best. The simplest answer is usually the right one. No clues of any kind about the iPhone 5 and lots of clues about the iPhone 4S. You put it together. But keep it simple.
 
Thank god, it looks like the iPhone 5 will keep the same industrial design instead of going back to that cheap looking bevel!

Don't think, if we get a redesigned model, that we will see a bevel anywhere. I'm hoping for aluminium unibody and edge to edge screen...

Yes, iphone 4 does look industrial, especially with a $20 rubber band around it!
 

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GEVEY Chip?

You can see the GEVEY Chip? :eek: In the second picture you can see a chip, I wonder where you've bought?:rolleyes:

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They wouldn't announce an iPhone would a shipping date almost a year later...

I didn't say announce, just release and it wouldn't be almost a year, 9 months to be precise for the 5 (redesign) and back into schedule. They will announce the 4S or 4G or whatever they want to call it in October and start shipping anywhere from two weeks up to two months after like they did with the new TB displays, that will put them around the christmas shopping season and wait til march-April to announce the redesigned 5 and ship it in June.
 
whoever came up with the dumb "4S" name earlier this year should be shot in the face btw. its based on no knowledge and somehow it made its way all over the internet

I take it then that you thought Apple's naming of the 3Gs was "dumb" as well. 4S has only caught on because historically it makes sense to call it that.
 
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