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New PowerBooks on Tuesday.

Originally posted by Photorun
I was going to ask what the longest thread was in the forums. Any idea?
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I think the Geek thread had the most replies (In a very short time also).

As for the longest Mac related thread, I think it probably is this recent PowerBook thread .

:)

Edit: And for one more tidbit, as far as I can remember, (which isn't that long), but the thread with the most positive replies is when the
:) PowerMac G5 specs where leaked . Almost 3000!
 
Re: Re: Dual G5 PowerBook?

Originally posted by Rocketman
What happened to all those vertical market "lugables" (ala early Kaypro)? Where is the PB with built-in RAID and quad batteries, only 2.5 inches thick?

As far as my statements, "gee wouldn't it be nice if there were a dual proc G5 Powerbook"? The dual 2ghz Powermac should teach Apple a lesson to put the mid-low end proc in the porta-dualies.

Rocketman
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Just as an FYI, that image wasn't directed at you personally, it was made to reflect the general idea of the possibility of a dual G5 PowerBook at this point. :)
 
Re: Re: Will everyone shut up after Tues?

Originally posted by mvc
What is MOST interesting about this whole G5/G4 debate is the different emotional tenet of the two sides.

Its like they have some vested emotional interest in the status quo, or maybe vested financial interest in Motorola. :rolleyes:

Why DO the negatives feel it is necessary to attempt to crush genuine debate with sweeping scornful remarks rather than factual discussion? Is it because they are really hurting inside? :p

As for G5 powerbooks, anything IS possible; the technical heat/power consumption challenges are NOT insurmountable according to the numbers quoted on this board, Steve usually only shows up to speak for the bigger upgrades, and the long revision delay is difficult to explain as simply a Motorola supply problem.
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I don’t think anyone who is negative about a G5 laptop has any problems with debate but there ARE more then a few people that firmly believe that Apple is going to pull a Houdini this Tuesday. This irks people because it’s contrary to all reason and honestly people logic in thinking that a G5 will be announced is highly flawed. Just because the lower end G5 chips could work doesn’t mean that the chipset and everything else that supports that CPU is ready.
Heck I’d be down right ecstatic if I was found to be wrong. About May of this year I basicly said I had enough of Windows. Soon after they announced the G5 PowerMac. I have enough software on the PC side of things to make it worth my while to wait for a G5 PowerBook. VPC needs all the horses it can get. (Yes I know VPC doesn’t run on the G5 yet…yet.) I want it to be true but I’m a realist. It isn’t going to happen this soon.
 
Re: Dual G5 PowerBook?

Originally posted by Hemingray
Okay, you got it. By popular demand, I've made a mockup of what the Dual G5 PowerBooks will look like for all those of you who "can't wait." (Forgive me if this has already been done):
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Ha ha, that was awesome!

Just curious what the consensus is on this wacky poll - do people feel it's more likely we'll see a dual G4 17" or G5 15" and 17" on Tuesday?
 
Originally posted by orion123
Yeah cause 2 years ago when all he did was announce the Flower Power iMac in Paris, that was really groundbreaking.

Steve Jobs means nothing, certainly not G5
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Oh crap, you're right. I had completely forgotten about that. Damn, another theory shot completely to hell. Oh well, I'll see you guys in about six weeks after I recheck all my other theories.

dh
 
Re: Dual G5 PowerBook?

Originally posted by Hemingray
Okay, you got it. By popular demand, I've made a mockup of what the Dual G5 PowerBooks will look like for all those of you who "can't wait." (Forgive me if this has already been done):
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Well, here's the new Dual G6. See , no cooling problems now! :p
 

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I just checked the availability for all powerbooks (12,15,17 with super drives) and they all say 3-5 business days.

Was it different before?
 
Originally posted by yujini
I just checked the availability for all powerbooks (12,15,17 with super drives) and they all say 3-5 business days.

Was it different before?
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I'm not sure about Apple's site, however I've been checking other online vendors' sites for 15" Powerbooks, and most of them say "Call for Availability" (or in other words, "We don't have any.").
 
Re: dream on...

Originally posted by dongmin
The 17" PB design is barely 8 months old; no way is Apple gonna do an overhaul to put in a G5. Sorry.

Plus, as macrumors12345 has pointed out, the 970 DOES dissipate more heat per megahertz than the current 7455. The ONLY chip that let's Apple go beyond 1 ghz in the PBs right now is the 7457.

We won't see a G5 PB until sometime next spring or summer when the dieshrunk 970 is shipping in volume.

So stop with all this G5 powerbook nonesense. Pure fantasy, I tell ya.
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MacRumors12345 compared a 1 Ghz 7457 to a 1.2 GHz 970. At 1.3 Ghz, the 7457 consume 18.7/26 Watts ( typical/peak ) which is right at the 970's 19 watts.

Also, people are commenting that that there are not enough 1.2 GHz 970 chips to go around. Actually there is probably plenty of these chips available. The shortage of chips would be those that have low yield ( the 2GHz and above chips ) but any chip that is rated for 1.6, 1.8, or 2.0 GHz could be clocked at 1.2 GHz and used. The current PM actually does this with slewing the clock down to 1.3 GHz to save power.

Lowering the voltage to 1.1V would lower the yield somewhat...

However, I am not in the G5 Powerbook camp believer camp. I think there are other architectual problems with incorporating the G5 in the powerbook. The Northbridge chip and the dual banks of ram are more problematic at this time than the heat from a G5 chip.

Also, looking at some performance numbers that MacBidouille published today, a 1.3 GHz G4 with 1MB of L3 looks like it would be faster than a 1.2 GHz G5.

http://www.hardmac.com/niouzcontenu.php

Extrapolate with care!
 
man, i am sick and tired of people suggesting that the 12 will be dropped, it has been there best selling powerbook since its release. granted as of now it isn't much beter then an ibook, but it would be much more logical to update it then get rid of it. getting rid of it would be stupid.

and there was a rumor about the 15 and 17 getting updated with the 12 getting updated later, ever think that this may be two new 15" models and a 17, and the 12 will come a little later rather then be dropped? duh, the 12 isn't getting dropped
 
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac

Also, I think the 12" will have to be redesigned, i.e. longer wait.
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Yeah, there clearly hasn't been enough time for that already

;)

Personally (FWIW) I am not holding out much hope for a G5 but perhaps clock speeds will exceed expectations. A 1.5Ghz G4 would be a nice surprise.
 
As awesome as a G5 PowerBook would be, it honestly doesn't make a huge bit of difference to me. I have a 400 MHz G3 PowerBook so *any* update would be one heck of a jump for me. It's the other stuff that really sounds good to me like the airport, bluetooth, FW, light up keyboard, a better graphics card, being able to have more RAM, and running OS X better (all of which my current PowerBook does not have). So whatever the update will be, it will be a nice system in my eyes.
 
My Predicitions

12": Two Models

867mhz with Superdrive for the current price of the 867mhz without Superdrive. ($1599)

1ghz with Superdrive for the current price of the 867mhz model with Superdrive. ($1799)


15":

Aluminum 1ghz Powerbook with updated features (USB 2.0, FireWire 800, possibly backlit keyboard) for $1999.

Aluminum 1.3ghz Powerbook with updated features (USB 2.0, yadda yadda) for $2499.

17"

Will remain pretty much the same, maybe with a speed boost. I wish they'd drop the price to something like $3000 as I still think $3299 for a notebook is outrageous, but that probably won't happen.
 
Originally posted by DHagan4755
I may stand corrected, but I seem to recall the Flower Power and Blue Dalmation iMacs being introduced at the Tokyo Expo.
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You're right. It was Tokyo. Here's the link: http://www.macobserver.com/article/2001/02/21.15.shtml

The point is still the same, and well made I might add. I want to go out on a limb and say his Steveness has gotten away from this of late, but I won't. G4's all around. Hooray Steve! Sheesh...

dh
 
I think once Panther is out, whatever PowerBook is current will be my new beast. I'm pretty sure the PowerBooks will be updated by then, and Panther will definitely make them really nice no matter what is under the hood.
 
The Panther Factor

That's very true, about Panther.

If the claims are true, and it runs as fast as OS9, then any new Powerbook is going to make me VERY HAPPY when I *hopefully* get mine next week (assuming immediate availability..).

Let's just hope Panther isn't too far behind!! :eek:
 
15 and 17" PBs updated Tuesday

Yeah I know I'm a new poster here, but I've been a faithful reader of nearly all rumors on this site for a couple years now.

My guess is that if we don't see powerbooks updated quietly tomorrow (G4's, other minor updates), we'll see G5's in the 15" and 17" models running at 1.2+ GHz. My guess is that Apple has been testing PB motherboards right along with PM motherboards. It would be silly for them not to have been.

However, if G5 powerbooks are announced, I think we'll see them ship with 10.3 preinstalled, whenever that occurs (October?)

please flame me if you wish. I don't care.
Few thought the G5 powermacs would be as good as they were - and they did ship on time (just not in full volume). Bring on the year of the laptop baby.
 
Re: 15 and 17" PBs updated Tuesday

Originally posted by fluidinclusion
Yeah I know I'm a new poster here, but I've been a faithful reader of nearly all rumors on this site for a couple years now.

My guess is that if we don't see powerbooks updated quietly tomorrow (G4's, other minor updates), we'll see G5's in the 15" and 17" models running at 1.2+ GHz. My guess is that Apple has been testing PB motherboards right along with PM motherboards. It would be silly for them not to have been.

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and the 12" Powerbook will become a 12"ibook with the G3 gobi processor.. and steve will rename it as G4.

the new motorola G4 chips will be saved for the iMacs and eMacs.

iCal/iSync will be updated

new device for the iPods.

Panther shipping date announced.
 
ya know I really could careless if the upgrade brings a G5 or not...I have a 500mhz G3 ibook...so if it is the same speed as the new imac....BRING EM' ON WITH LIGHT UP KEYBOARDS ;)
 
Sure

Originally posted by Tom Golden
ya know I really could careless if the upgrade brings a G5 or not...I have a 500mhz G3 ibook...so if it is the same speed as the new imac....BRING EM' ON WITH LIGHT UP KEYBOARDS ;)
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I'm looking to buy my first powerbook soon. It's the only part of the Apple line I haven't purchased (aside from eMac, which is just a big CRT iMac).

I think and hope that there is a lot of pent up demand for powerbooks. The only thing that worries me is that of all the geeks like us, a large fraction seem to be using old equipment. Why don't the geeks have bleeding edge Macs?
 
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