New PowerMac (Mac Pro) and MacBook Pro Enclosures

[generik]

For everyone who didnt know,you can get black MBP for extra $$ heres the link http://www.colorwarepc.com/products/select_MacBookPro.aspx
many colors for you boys who need em lol oh and this goes for MB too yayay

Those are so uncool..

Seriously they look like just cheap paint jobs. I think what others have in mind (at least that's what I have in mind) is a treated aluminium that is a bit like the anodised alumiunium cookware that we have in the kitchen, where the black actually has a somewhat matt and dull finish rather than the colourware ones, which really are just a variant of the black Macbook.

Geez, I'm tired, guess it is time to go to bed earlier... WWDC comes sooner the more I sleep!

The Mac Pro redesign was a given - the current model was an interim machine so apple could remove the ageing and very slow G4 processor.

You meant Macbook Pro

Ugh!
MUCH too practical for my tastes!
I'm looking forward to lugging a 10kg backpack from trainstation to uni and back every day. The happiness knowing you've got a real beast on your back would surely more than offset any meager discomfort this would cause!

My dad's 17" Powerbook is simply beautiful.

Well one of my lecturers in Uni has this huge 17" PB G4 that he carries around with him in this large metaliic suitcase.. and that guy always dresses in black for *some* reason. Even owns a black U2 iPod.. that guy is pretty hardcore

Hasn't seen him for a while, but I doubt he likes small laptops that much, but I do suppose his gothic outfit will be complete if the black MBP does materialises

 

[milo]

Thinksecret has blown it too many times. I don't take any of this seriously.

I'd consider any of this once I heard it from Apple Insider.

At this point, this is just more fodder for the clueless who can't understand that quad core chips don't exist yet, and conroes can't be run in dual chip configs. People have been hashing out these same arguments for months. No thanks.

 

[thejadedmonkey]

This would be nice...especially for a base model priced at $2899.

• Dual Dual-Core chips at 2.1ghz
• 1 gig RAM
• Dual 80gig HDD's
• Dual x1800 GPU's (upgradable)
• DVD+RW
• Modular CD-RW/DVD
• 6 USB Ports
• 2 Firewire 400
• 1 Firewire 800
• Airport Ultra/BT 2.0
• 6 Hour battery life.

Of course, it would have to look something like this..

 

[technicolor]

That design is horrible, way too thick.

 

[extraextra]

I would not pay $2899 for something that looks like that. If I needed all that, I would go for a desktop.

And, it seems like the thing would overheat!

 

[thejadedmonkey]

You're right, it is kinda thick. It's the idea that I was trying to convay, not the actual appearance though (as, obviously my photoshop skills suck).

 

[AidenShaw]

I would not pay $2899 for something that looks like that. If I needed all that, I would go for a desktop.

If you were a musician, or a photographer/videographer on the road - you'd be happy to get that much power in a portable.

If you were a gamer, and there were good Mac games, you'd also be happy.

There's a huge market where power and features are more important that "thin and light".

 

[extraextra]

If you were a musician, or a photographer/videographer on the road - you'd be happy to get that much power in a portable.

If you were a gamer, and there were good Mac games, you'd also be happy.

There's a huge market where power and features are more important that "thin and light".

I agree, though I hear more people wanting a 13" Macbook Pro than a Macbook Pro with dual-everything. Granted those people are probably none of the three you listed above.

I would honestly think that no laptop (if it's even possible to fit all of that in) would function at an acceptable heat with all of this:
Dual Dual-Core chips at 2.1ghz
Dual 80gig HDD's
Dual x1800 GPU's (upgradable)

People complain of the heat as it is!

 

[morespce54]

Here is a design idea for the new Mac .. retro look

see attached

is this a conroe or a woodcrest ???

 

[Cowinacape]

This would be nice...especially for a base model priced at $2899.

• Dual Dual-Core chips at 2.1ghz
• 1 gig RAM
• Dual 80gig HDD's
• Dual x1800 GPU's (upgradable)
• DVD+RW
• Modular CD-RW/DVD
• 6 USB Ports
• 2 Firewire 400
• 1 Firewire 800
• Airport Ultra/BT 2.0
• 6 Hour battery life.

Of course, it would have to look something like this..

Now I'd hit it, would make a great desk top replacement, as has already been said. But an extra 3/4 of an inch or so in thickness would definetly not bother me.

 

[rainmanbk]

Personally, I think the size of the PowerMac case is not its downfall. The downfall is its lack of expandability. If the Mac Pro was the same size, but had 8 or even 4 HD bays, 1 optical drive, and possibly still water-cooling, I'd be very happy.

The PowerMac design is gorgeous, it just lacks functionality.

 

[hayduke]

Thought experiment...

The tiles on the bottom of the Space Shuttle are black. Why?
When your car has been left out in the sun, you don't touch the black bits. Why?
Solar cells are black. Why?
And if black absorbs heat fater (as it does with visible light- hence BLACK) does it not stand to reason that black things radiate heat faster as well?
Think hot coals versus... I dunno... something hot, white that you can touch without burning yourself. I know... AeroGel.

So does it also not stand to reason that if a material absorbs and re-emits heat faster than another, it would keep a CPU/GPU cooler?

Moral to this post, don't cover your brand new Macbook Pro's processor with AeroGel.

Please. Don't try to out-nerd me.

Well...let's at least give it a shot. I think there are two different physical principles that are being conflated. Things that are black in color are more efficient at transforming light energy into heat energy. Black objects, afterall, absorb light from a much broader spectral range than do white objects. That heat energy is stored to a small extent in the paint (even less in the *very* thin anodized layer). Most of the heat is stored in the immediately adjacent aluminum case and this serves as the heat sink for all of the heat absorbed by the paint, but in the case of a laptop, mostly heat generated by the CPU & GPU. Neglecting the heat capacitance of the paint/anondization, then in the presence of no additional heat source both a black and white/silver laptop will radiate the same amount of heat into the users naughty bits. If one wanted to design a laptop that deposited less heat on Lester then an insulating layer (aerogel! even *black* areogel! either has a very low heat capacity or large R-factor) would do nicely, but would have the ill effect of forcing heat to radiate upward though the keyboard or out the sides or worse, it would remain "trapped" in the motherboard because there is such a limited area with which to do away with the heat.

In the end the color of your laptop has little to do with anything unless you leave it in the sun. In that case the black one will be hotter indeed.

 

[boncellis]

...At this point, this is just more fodder for the clueless who can't understand that quad core chips don't exist yet, and conroes can't be run in dual chip configs. People have been hashing out these same arguments for months. No thanks.

Yep, you're right. The funny thing is, though, that a lot of people are still getting it wrong!

 

[maxvamp]

$3499??? anyone??

I could see quite the design change here for all of the reasons mentioned.

Seriously though, how many people here think that the price for a MacPro is going to stay in the same range as before?

It is my prediction that we will once again see the return of the $3500 Mac Professional series.

Primary reasons????

I believe that the new Mac Pro will have the option for a Blu-Ray burner. Currently, the leader for this technology in the field is once again Pioneer electronics. You will find the BDR-101A
to be an excellent burner and available, but at a cost of $1000 retail. Furthermore, the new Woodcrest chips will be a pretty penny on top of the normal costs for processor.

In short, if Apple plans to ( and needs to ) get the money they need to build a monster Intel Pro Mac, they need to WOW the consumer/Professional as much as possible.

I suspect a dazzling new case is around the corner, but I doubt size has little to do with it's attraction.

Now, where did I put that Quad Wallet???

Max.

 

[edinz]

enclosure heat

Over-riding consideration for the design of the existing pmac was thermal, the ppc chips are hot and hungry. The new multicores are cool and lite, so expect a cool, lite, metal enclosure.

 

[GregA]

I'll be glad if this is true, all the new intel mac's (apart from the macbook) have disapointed me by having almost the same enclosures as the models they replaced. My next mac was going to be a powermac but i've held out for an intel update i'm sure it'll be a beast.

I think that was a smart move on Apple's part.

They've made a huge technology leap, but it looks like nothing (on face value). They've probably managed to keep the best of both worlds - those scared of change can't see much difference, those who love it know what's happening under the hood.

I think they've well and truly settled any fears people had, so now they're free to continue to improve the form factors etc of the machines.

 

[Erasmus]

Well...let's at least give it a shot. I think there are two different physical principles that are being conflated. Things that are black in color are more efficient at transforming light energy into heat energy. Black objects, afterall, absorb light from a much broader spectral range than do white objects. That heat energy is stored to a small extent in the paint (even less in the *very* thin anodized layer). Most of the heat is stored in the immediately adjacent aluminum case and this serves as the heat sink for all of the heat absorbed by the paint, but in the case of a laptop, mostly heat generated by the CPU & GPU. Neglecting the heat capacitance of the paint/anondization, then in the presence of no additional heat source both a black and white/silver laptop will radiate the same amount of heat into the users naughty bits. If one wanted to design a laptop that deposited less heat on Lester then an insulating layer (aerogel! even *black* areogel! either has a very low heat capacity or large R-factor) would do nicely, but would have the ill effect of forcing heat to radiate upward though the keyboard or out the sides or worse, it would remain "trapped" in the motherboard because there is such a limited area with which to do away with the heat.

In the end the color of your laptop has little to do with anything unless you leave it in the sun. In that case the black one will be hotter indeed.

Please see post about sarcasm.

Sarcasm is GOOD. I realise that if black AeroGel existed it would retain heat exceptionally well as well. I just couldn't think of any appropriate example. I realise that the colour of the material would have negligable effect on the heat released.

I'm sorry, but I just can't bring myself to start the self-torture that is reading an extremely large block paragraph, so if I'm missing your point, I apologise.

I'm pretty sure the colour of a material has no impact on conduction of heat thru a material, only what that material is. Therefore a black layer of dark metal over the surface would be just as effective as solid black metal.

Well anyway, I'm sure I've got my point across. Black is practical, and looks cool, therefore Jobs should bless us with Black Macbook Pros!

 

[aly]

white black, smeh!

White on the inside would help reflect heat back in, black on the inside would help heat radiate thru the casing. Black on outside would help absorb ambient heat into the computer, white on the outisde would help reflect heat from the outside. So ideally, black inside, white outisde. dah dah...... i think

 

[hayduke]

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I'm pretty sure the colour of a material has no impact on conduction of heat thru a material, only what that material is. Therefore a black layer of dark metal over the surface would be just as effective as solid black metal.

Well anyway, I'm sure I've got my point across. Black is practical, and looks cool, therefore Jobs should bless us with Black Macbook Pros!

Couldn't agree more (no sarcasm).

 

[Silentwave]

This would be nice...especially for a base model priced at $2899.

• Dual Dual-Core chips at 2.1ghz
• 1 gig RAM
• Dual 80gig HDD's
• Dual x1800 GPU's (upgradable)
• DVD+RW
• Modular CD-RW/DVD
• 6 USB Ports
• 2 Firewire 400
• 1 Firewire 800
• Airport Ultra/BT 2.0
• 6 Hour battery life.

[/IMG]

Well, your processors are way off- Intel has no processors that are multi-socket compatible at 2.1GHz. They do have the Xeon 5100 series Intel Core microarchitecture Woodcrest at 1.6, 1.86, 2.0, 2.3, 2.6, and 3.0 GHz, and the Woodcrest Low Voltage at 2.3 GHz, all with 1333MT/S FSB (except 1.6 and 1.83, which are 1066mt/s), 4MB L2 Cache, and with a TDP of 65W except the Low Voltage which has a TDP of 40W and the 3.0GHz which has a TDP of 80W.

Incidentally, the TDP of the Low Votlage is only 5W higher than Merom, the mobile Core 2 Duo processor, which has a TDP of 35W, however the LV Woodie has a much faster FSB.

I'd start with at least 2GB ram though in that base, upgradeable to 4-8GB.

And i'd be fine with one really good graphics card, and dual 80GB HDs come one we need at least dual 120s.

 

[SiliconAddict]

MacBook Pro Enclosures

knew it. every time I read something that fell out of Jobs's mouth I always know he is spouting ****. What did he say? We don't know how to improve on the design? Bull. The man is a born liar. That is assuming the RUMOR is true though.

 

[Silentwave]

knew it. every time I read something that fell out of Jobs's mouth I always know he is spouting ****. What did he say? We don't know how to improve on the design? Bull. The man is a born liar. That is assuming the RUMOR is true though.

But he's our favorite liar, that's for sure

 

[Preacher85]

you are both wrong. it will be an inch thinner than it already is. thus, sucking it out of existance only to be replaced by-- something.

Wouldn't that tear a hole in the space/time continuum?

Seriously though, if the MBP's case is redesigned, I think it will stay basically the same, except it will have the magnetic latching system that the MB has, and the same keyboard as the MB, except with backlighting. Otherwise, it will look pretty much the same, IMO.

 

[Silentwave]

Wouldn't that tear a hole in the space/time continuum?

Seriously though, if the MBP's case is redesigned, I think it will stay basically the same, except it will have the magnetic latching system that the MB has, and the same keyboard as the MB, except with backlighting. Otherwise, it will look pretty much the same, IMO.

I don't care just so long as thye have liquid helium cooling pipes for it!

 

[ReanimationLP]

This would be nice...especially for a base model priced at $2899.

• Dual Dual-Core chips at 2.1ghz
• 1 gig RAM
• Dual 80gig HDD's
• Dual x1800 GPU's (upgradable)
• DVD+RW
• Modular CD-RW/DVD
• 6 USB Ports
• 2 Firewire 400
• 1 Firewire 800
• Airport Ultra/BT 2.0
• 6 Hour battery life.

HAHAHAHAHA. 6 HOURS?!???!???

Try 3 minutes.

You have any idea how much the X1800 sucks up? O.O