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Chundles said:
Well, sure looks grey to me. Ah well, milage varies I spose.

It looks grey where the light is shining. Other parts of the laptop are considerably darker than the current MBP is.
 
emotion said:
That's not true. What colour do people paint heating radiators? White. For a reason.
The tiles on the bottom of the Space Shuttle are black. Why?
When your car has been left out in the sun, you don't touch the black bits. Why?
Solar cells are black. Why?
And if black absorbs heat fater (as it does with visible light- hence BLACK) does it not stand to reason that black things radiate heat faster as well?
Think hot coals versus... I dunno... something hot, white that you can touch without burning yourself. I know... AeroGel.

So does it also not stand to reason that if a material absorbs and re-emits heat faster than another, it would keep a CPU/GPU cooler?

Moral to this post, don't cover your brand new Macbook Pro's processor with AeroGel.

Please. Don't try to out-nerd me.
 
emotion said:
That's not true. What colour do people paint heating radiators? White. For a reason.

What bizzaro world you live in? The radiators I see around in our local scrap yard are all painted :)
 
auxplage said:
The current casing is so amazing for the MacBook Pro.

I would like the Mac Pro to go back to a design similar to the last revision of the Power Mac G4 with obvious changes of course: It is superior to the G5 casing.

I read your post twice and still wasn't sure what you were trying to say. Are you saying the G4 case is a better design than the G5 case? I hope not.
 
Actually after giving it some thought it doesn't matter to me personally if it is grey or black, or not.

What I hope to see is a more resilient construction, something that you can occasionally bang on without having it look like an expired tin can from Apu's Qwikie Mart.

No warps. No dents. Metallic construction. I am happy.
 
THX1139 said:
I read your post twice and still wasn't sure what you were trying to say. Are you saying the G4 case is a better design than the G5 case? I hope not.

It might be superior functionally (more drivebays, more accessible components, more expansion-slots etc.), but the G5-case is miles ahead in overall refinement :).
 
There are a few things I can't believe they moved from the G5:
1. The G4 had this easy access door on the side, hell, even G3 had it.
2. The G4 had a L3 FSB and a Back Side Bus too.
3. The G4 had 4 HDD bays, the G5 had 2.
4. The G4 had 2 drive bays, the G5 had 1...

Except for all these cool features, I would like some new to be added, yet I can't think of anything cooler than this aluminum case it has now. I wold hate a black PM...:mad:
 
Erasmus said:
The tiles on the bottom of the Space Shuttle are black. Why?
When your car has been left out in the sun, you don't touch the black bits. Why?
Solar cells are black. Why?
And if black absorbs heat fater (as it does with visible light- hence BLACK) does it not stand to reason that black things radiate heat faster as well?

Black absorbs heat better than white. I'm not debating that.

As it happens I think you're right though. :)

I also think that the colour of the laptop is going to make minimal difference to how cool the cpu inside will be. Most of the cooling in a laptop is using fans and to a lesser extent convection to keep the thing cool. After all the design of the powerbook is not intended to make the case a heat sink.

Edit: In fact you could argue that a white shiney laptop will protect the user from excessive heat more than a matte black one as it's slower to radiate out the heat from the inside (yes, now I've had my coffee and can think straight :) )

Explain to me why radiators are white please? (edit: cosmetic, and possibly to retain heat so when the heating system goes off it gives out over a longer period of time)

Please. Don't try to out-nerd me.

Haha wear that badge with pride man.
 
generik said:
What bizzaro world you live in? The radiators I see around in our local scrap yard are all painted :)


All domestic heating radiators are white. Before we get into a nerd-off though it's probably cosmetic rather than for function.

:)
 
Josias said:
2. The G4 had a L3 FSB and a Back Side Bus too.

They had that because the FSB on G4 was abysmally slow. In order to compensate for it, they had to use L3-cache. G5 does not need it because the FSB is order of magnitude faster and because the memory-subsystem is overall so much more robust. Sure, L3-cache might have increased performance by a bit, but it would have also cost more.
 
ATG said:
My wish list (for the Mac Pro):

Same design as the G5 (looks nice, works)
Improved a bit with little features (like more USB ports etc.)
Choice of Black Anodised or Silver Aluminium
Smaller

And for me designed to lay on its side so it will fit under my TV!
 
emotion said:
Something in between a Mini and a iMac could have this form factor. I'd like one of those too.

A screenless iMac that was designed to lay flat would be great if it has enough grunt and HDD space.
 
~hector looks at his g4 cube with its upgradeable graphics/cpu/ram/HD/optical drive and grumbles~
 
The G4 Rocks!

The FW800 PowerMac G4 is the best looking computer on the planet! :D

Best looking Macs:

1. FW800 G4 and 23" Cinema HD Display (Clear Enclosure)

2. iMac G4

3. PowerMac G4 Cube and 17" LCD Studio Display

4. iBook 500MHz

5. iMac G3 Snow

6. iMac G5 (W/Out iSight)

7. There all great looking but the above are exceptions IMO...

- Joe. :cool:
 
I am not saying...

that ThinkSecret is wrong or anything, but aren't they stating the obvious? A new 'PowerMac' in a new enclosure - this is a no brainer really.

I think the MacBook Pros and Intel iMacs were to be the last of the PPC lines, but some delay pushed them closer to the Intel availability and the Intel chips were used - thus no change to the cases. The MacBooks were always to be Intel based thus the new design from day one.

I think we will get a new enclosure for the MacBook Pros wit the next chip upgrade, and maybe a slightly changed iMac as well on the next update.

The MacPros will look great - and we will all be thinking "why didn't I think of that?"

And does anyone else think that ThinkSecret has posted it's rumor in a very news-oriented style - maybe as a way to protect themselves by claimimg the rights of journalists not to reveal sources or have to remove the story.
 
emotion said:
I also think that the colour of the laptop is going to make minimal difference to how cool the cpu inside will be. Most of the cooling in a laptop is using fans and to a lesser extent convection to keep the thing cool. After all the design of the powerbook is not intended to make the case a heat sink.

OK, I'm sorry. There was a small amount of sarcasm in my first post on this topic. I did not mean that changing the colour of the MBP would instantly solve Job's nightmares, it was simply a somewhat limited justification of the practicality of black. (Hmm... Is the speed of dark greater than the speed of light?)(Sorry. Personal joke. Well not so much personal... oh... Whatever.)

I just want a Black Aluminium Macbook Pro.

emotion said:
Edit: In fact you could argue that a white shiney laptop will protect the user from excessive heat more than a matte black one as it's slower to radiate out the heat from the inside (yes, now I've had my coffee and can think straight :) )

Yes, but it's only better for the user, not the computer itself. We at Mac Rumors are all masochists who want the best for our Macs without regard to our own health and safety. Well? Aren't we?

emotion said:
Explain to me why radiators are white please? (edit: cosmetic, and possibly to retain heat so when the heating system goes off it gives out over a longer period of time)

I suppose you are right. Is white paint cheaper?

emotion said:
Haha wear that badge with pride man.

Don't you worry. I intend to. The world's no. 1 Cool Nerd. :cool: :D ;)
Oops! Sarcasm again!

Yes, I think this post is good. I don't want to read it through and check it...

Hey, I'm no longer a MR noob! I've been promoted to Member! (Score!)
(MWAHAHAHA!)
 
Erasmus said:
OK, I'm sorry. There was a small amount of sarcasm in my first post on this topic. I did not mean that changing the colour of the MBP would instantly solve Job's nightmares, it was simply a somewhat limited justification of the practicality of black. (Hmm... Is the speed of dark greater than the speed of light?)(Sorry. Personal joke. Well not so much personal... oh... Whatever.)

heh heh. I'd just got up...which explains my terseness (and wrongness as it happens)

I just want a Black Aluminium Macbook Pro.

We agree completely then.

Yes, but it's only better for the user, not the computer itself. We at Mac Rumors are all masochists who want the best for our Macs without regard to our own health and safety. Well? Aren't we?

I have two 12" powerbooks (867 and 1.33). The heat these things reach I clearly don't value having kids anytime soon :)

Don't you worry. I intend to. The world's no. 1 Cool Nerd. :cool: :D ;)
Oops! Sarcasm again!

Hey, I'm no longer a MR noob! I've been promoted to Member! (Score!)
(MWAHAHAHA!)

Congrats.... :)
 
emotion said:
We agree completely then.
*Shakes hand of emotion*

Yep, so where back to the loving hope of a 2.33 C2D with 512mb X1800 17" MBP.
Which is black. Aluminium. With a magnetic latch. Which runs cooler. etc.
Yep, that's pretty much what my posts contain that is relevant to the topic. :eek:
 
Erasmus said:
*Shakes hand of emotion*

:) that's that settled then.

Yep, so where back to the loving hope of a 2.33 C2D with 512mb X1800 17" MBP.
Which is black. Aluminium. With a magnetic latch. Which runs cooler. etc.
Yep, that's pretty much what my posts contain that is relevant to the topic. :eek:

Well I'm hoping for something on the other end of the scale, I want a 13" mbp in black....or even something "ultraportable", to replace my aging 12" powerbook.

I might be waiting a while :)
 
emotion said:
Well I'm hoping for something on the other end of the scale, I want a 13" mbp in black....or even something "ultraportable", to replace my aging 12" powerbook.

Ugh!
MUCH too practical for my tastes!
I'm looking forward to lugging a 10kg backpack from trainstation to uni and back every day. The happiness knowing you've got a real beast on your back would surely more than offset any meager discomfort this would cause!:p

My dad's 17" Powerbook is simply beautiful.
 
The Mac Pro redesign was a given - the current model was an interim machine so apple could remove the ageing and very slow G4 processor.
 
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