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I think the Mac Pro will show what the next style of pros will follow, including a precursor (sp?) to the MacBook Pro.
 
Multimedia said:
Yes and not long. September at the latest. Probably sooner. You have 10 days to return what you bought. If you can do it, you should definitely return the one you just bought.

thnx for the info. tomorrow is the last day to return! i dont think i'll be able to do it though... i read on some sites that neither conroe or merom have been released yet. is it really possible that these macs will be equipped with them and on the shelves so soon??
 
penter said:
thnx for the info. tomorrow is the last day to return! i dont think i'll be able to do it though... i read on some sites that neither conroe or merom have been released yet. is it really possible that these macs will be equipped with them and on the shelves so soon??


Not with that kind of attitude.
 
Peace said:
That sir is something we can agree on..

Love those Memrons!!

ACK!!! Spelling!
OK, I know you did that on purpose.
Why, Why melt my brain so?

So, yeah. MEROM is cool. Quite good enough to designate it as a new coolness scale, measured by a Merometer. Merom scores 10. I score 11.
 
ktlx said:
Other than you and Hector, the only other people I've heard use "SMP" as the two of you are, are people who don't know what they are talking about.

I do know what I'm talking about, thankyouverymuch. The use of the term is related to are you looking at the issue from software-perspective, of hardware-perspective. Software-wise, there is no difference between two single-core CPU, when compared to one dual-core CPU's. Hardware-wise, there is a difference.

Back in the "old days", when people talked of SMP, they were talking of multi-socket systems, since there was no multi-core CPU's. Today, when we have multicore-CPU's, and some people look at SMP from software-side (in which case dualcore can be labeled as "SMP"), or from hardware-perspective. Neither is really wrong on the issue.

EDIT: How does Intel describe their Xeon-CPU? Like this:

These are the most widely deployed 64-bit processors in the world and are ideal for a broad range of business solutions, from application servers to email servers to Internet servers. Designed for volume 2-way configurations, the new Dual-Core Intel® Xeon® processor-based servers deliver additional levels of performance, power-efficiency and reliability to help you improve the efficiency and responsiveness of your server infrastructure.

By your logic, that would be four-way system, right? Are you saying that Intel "does not know what they are talking about"?

Of Xeon MP they say this: "Designed for 4-way and higher configurations". Clearly, they have no idea what they are talking about.
 
penter said:
thnx for the info. tomorrow is the last day to return! i dont think i'll be able to do it though... i read on some sites that neither conroe or merom have been released yet. is it really possible that these macs will be equipped with them and on the shelves so soon??

Anything with Conroe or Woodcrest can be released in August easily- Conroe comes out end of this month. Nothing Merom will be out until Aug. 22nd or later.
 
Not exactly surprising. I'd be surprised if anyone in this forum couldn't write a better Thinksecret "story" than they do.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Mr. Ive will do with the new enclosure. I've been a consumer (except for the PB) level Mac user but this might be my chance to take the plunge. I appreciate the sleek design of the current PowerMac, I just hope the enclosure is a little bit smaller this time around.
 
ktlx said:
It's Symmetric Multi-Processing. I don't believe it's Jewish. :D
If it was jewish, it would be semetic multi-processing, but I digress...


Does anyone think that we might be seeing the return of the iMac/iBook PowerMac/PowerBook colation again? iMac/MacBook Pro, Mac Pro/PowerBook Pro. All that's needed to turn a laptop into a PowerMac is a larger 2" thick case, with a DL DVD burner and space for a 2nd HDD or something... That would be siiick!
 
They could have had the new design in front of us the entire time. I was looking through pics on my computer and I found this from when they did a revamp to the PB's (the last before they went to Intel I think). The one with the brighter displays and the scrolling track pad and the SMS (sudden motion sensor) if i remember right). Just pretend it's black with a light being shown on it!

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steve jr. said:
They could have had the new design in front of us the entire time. I was looking through pics on my computer and I found this from when they did a revamp to the PB's (the last before they went to Intel I think). The one with the brighter displays and the scrolling track pad and the SMS (sudden motion sensor) if i remember right). Just pretend it's black with a light being shown on it!

wirelesstop20050920.jpg

Um, that's a PowerBook.

The antennae on the screen, the ports, they're all PowerBook design traits. What am I supposed to be looking at?
 
steve jr. said:

Schweet!
Black is after all the coolest colour. Well hottest, actually, but that's a good thing. Black radiates and absorbs heat better than grey or white. That leads to cooler CPU's and GPU's.
How about an aluminium Apple on the black background? Put an end to the lit apple? Not to say I don't like the glowing white apple, but something different might be better.
 
Changes to the Intel MacBook Pro.

azzurri000 said:
In terms of the MacBook Pro, I'd like to see how they can improve upon perfection. I'm a little nervous as to how it will look... but I guess each successive PowerBook revision looked snazzier than the one before it.


THe 17" could offer an option of speakers or a numeric keypad. My speakers are turned off 95+% of the time, but I use a numeric keypad all day 7 days a week. At present that means carrying a numeric keypad or a full keyboard much of the time.

A 19-23" model with numeric keypad & speakers would also be acceptable.
 
I wonder about the new Mac Pro lineup--somehow I don't see Apple coming out with two different enclosures, maybe it's the lack of another trademarked name, I don't know. So, if it's one case design, it would have to be big enough to house a quad core setup, but on the low end support a less expensive option.

I see the need for a "mid-level" tower, but somehow I think the intermediate nature will stem from the price point instead of there being a wholly separate line. Just my guess.
 
steve jr. said:
Chundles, I'm well aware that's a PB as I said in my post. My point is is this is what a MBP could look like if it were black.

But it's not black, it's just a dimly lit PowerBook. It's still grey.
 
Stridder44 said:
Not with that kind of attitude.

i wish i could do something about it, but its not up to me to return it... :(
its ok... i dont mind it if my computer runs a fraction of a second slower than its newer versioin will. like i've read in this website before: "i dont care if it takes iTunes 2 bounces on the dock instead of one in order to start up"
by the way, does anyone know the specs of these new processors?
 
quietmind said:
Messing with the MBP enclosure design is a bad move.

Because of this "amazing" design:

1. You're limited to 4X DVD burners on the 15.4".
2. You might get yourself small electric shocks (I know I did).
3. You may never have children because that alluminum takes out all the heat right into your you-know-what.
4. Lids pop-up due to the thin height and excessive heat.
5. Your number of ports is limted due to the lack of space, therefore need to take out VGA port, S-Video port, Firewire 800 port (15.4"). Plus lack of space means you can't put 2 hard drives inside, for example.
6. You need to underclock your very expensive ATI X1600 because the small form factor causes too much heat to allow it to operate at manufacturer's temparture.

I can't wait for them to change that design.

Oded S.
 
hayduke said:
If I'm not mistaken anondizing results in an extremely hard surface which is quite difficult to scratch. In fact, I think it is harder to scratch than un-anondized aluminum. So...bring it on!!! Afteral the iPod mini's were anodized and I don't recall scratching complaints. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

You are very wrong, I have my very own 2nd get 6 gig mini, and it's very very scratched. Oh wait, no it's not. Not one bit. I don't think scratches show on them at all. Nevermind hayduke, you are right. :p
 
Chundles said:
But it's not black, it's just a dimly lit PowerBook. It's still grey.

I think we all know that :rolleyes:. The point is that that what black MBP could look like. Yes, it's still rey, but because of the light, it looks like black.
 
Evangelion said:
I think we all know that :rolleyes:. The point is that that what black MBP could look like. Yes, it's still rey, but because of the light, it looks like black.

Well, sure looks grey to me. Ah well, milage varies I spose.
 
Kelmon said:
I'd like to see those horrible silver keys go away for starters. Most of the existing MacBook Pro enclosure is very nice but I've detested the silver keys ever since I saw them in real life (they actually looked OK in the pictures). I'm just gutted that I'm going to have to wait longer for the laptop that I've been lusting after for the last couple years.

Bring back the TiBook!!!! Loved the keyboard on those. ;)
 
My wish list (for the Mac Pro):

Same design as the G5 (looks nice, works)
Improved a bit with little features (like more USB ports etc.)
Choice of Black Anodised or Silver Aluminium
Smaller

My wish list (for the MBP)
Same design as before
More Ports
Choice of Black Anodised or Silver Aluminium
 
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