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Apple Selling RAM For A Reasonable Price Is Like Saying Hummer's Are Fuel Efficient

Hector said:
well first off apple will secure half way reasonable prices on memory, then crucial will beat them and newegg will undercut crucial, this will all happen in less than a week.

if everyone thought like you we would all be useing pc100.
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Yeah. Apple has always sold RAM for a very reasonable price. :rolleyes:
 
Single Core Macs End This Summer With The Current Mac Mini

neoelectronaut said:
What's to become of the iMac? New Casing, New Processor? Down from a Dual-Core to a Single-Core?
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Single Core Macs are at their end with the 1.5GHz Mac Mini. Why would you think the iMac will ever go back to a single core? Even the mini will be all Core 2 Duo in the next refresh. :rolleyes:
 
Multimedia said:
Yeah. Apple has always sold RAM for a very reasonable price. :rolleyes:
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hence "half way" pro's can afford it and the like but consumers will buy aftermarket which will become affordable and available within a week or so of significant number of woodcrest workstations being available.

can you even read or do i just need to repeat myself all the time?
 
Hector said:
can you even read
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Funny I was able to ask you the same thing. Apparently you don't since you don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about in most of these posts.

People must like selling stuff to you. You want a more expensive, slower solution. FB-DIMMs are an awesome solution. They are slower, have higher latencies and cost a lot more than DDR2 DIMMs. Or do you believe that everyone is going to need 16GB on the desktop this winter?

[edit]FB-DIMMs are Intel's answer to AMD's on-board memory controller in their Opterons. If you need a server with two sockets and need 16GB, with AMD you have four memory slots per socket and things work out just dandy using plain old DDR or DDR2. If you need a similar set up using Intel, you need eight memory slots per MCH which gets pretty tricky at higher DDR2 speeds. The problem only gets worse for Intel as you try to add more memory slots.[/edit]

Oops, I made a mistake here on the bandwidth. It looks like Intel is able to get higher bandwidth than regular DDR2 by having two "channels" to memory. You get pretty nasty latencies, but for things like databases and Xeons with massive caches, that's probably not going to be a big deal.
 
neoelectronaut said:
What's to become of the iMac? New Casing, New Processor? Down from a Dual-Core to a Single-Core?
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I love the intel iMac. I don't think they'll need to change it. If anything, Apple would want the Mac Pro to have the higher-level CPU.
 
you've obviously never spoken to anyone that uses any app to a profession level, more ram the merrier and FB-dimms are a step in the right direction, latency is a small price to pay, and as i have said in a previous post, if everyone thought like you we would all be useing pc100 as both DDR123 increased latency for bandwidth.
 
Hector said:
and as i have said in a previous post, if everyone thought like you we would all be useing pc100 as both DDR123 increased latency for bandwidth.
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Now you've completely demonstrated you don't know what you're talking about. Latencies are specified in memory clock cycles and actually decrease at a certain crossover point. DDR400 at CL3 has measurably less latency than PC100 CL1.5.

You really need to spend time reading about things.

You've also never bothered designing systems because it's not always useful to keep adding memory for all applications. Especially the vast majority of applications that people are going to be using on a desktop. Look at what nearly all people are doing with their single socket, dual core PowerMac G5s today. I would defy you to find enough worth even mentioning who could use 8GB, let alone 16GB in the next year or so. Hell, I would be surprised if the vast majority could even use more than 4GB of physical memory. All of the applications that I can think of that would benefit from 16GB in the next year or so would also benefit from Woodcrest's ability to do two sockets of dual core processors.
 
ktlx said:
Now you've completely demonstrated you don't know what you're talking about. Latencies are specified in memory clock cycles and actually decrease at a certain crossover point. DDR400 at CL3 has measurably less latency than PC100 CL1.5.

You really need to spend time reading about things.

You've also never bothered designing systems because it's not always useful to keep adding memory for all applications. Especially the vast majority of applications that people are going to be using on a desktop. Look at what nearly all people are doing with their single socket, dual core PowerMac G5s today. I would defy you to find enough worth even mentioning who could use 8GB, let alone 16GB in the next year or so. Hell, I would be surprised if the vast majority could even use more than 4GB of physical memory. All of the applications that I can think of that would benefit from 16GB in the next year or so would also benefit from Woodcrest's ability to do two sockets of dual core processors.
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one of my projects can eat up over 12GB in memory.
 
gregbenj said:
Please Apple, new MacbookPro that focuses on comfort of use. Create a new design...I don't want to look down on a laptop screen anymore, it's an archaic concept. Make the laptop screen move up and down, like in this picture (only make it look like a beautiful apple product)


Continue to push the envelope!
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God, that screen is ugly. Thanks but no thanks. Apple products are fragile enough, that spiny stand + Apple's sweatshop factories = QC disaster IMHO.
 
if they release a new macbook pro with a black anodized aluminum case...my current mbp is going straight to ebay!:D
 
smokeyboi said:
if they release a new macbook pro with a black anodized aluminum case...my current mbp is going straight to ebay!:D
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Mine is going anyway. Ive learned my lesson on buying Apple products straight off the concept line.
 
Performa said:
or in my case....owning a $2000 computer armoire that has a compartment that is meant to house a computer "tower" enclosure......but when the G5 came out....it was way too big to fit into that enclosure. So I have been stuck using my G4 733 mhz that BARELY fits....but still doesn't allow me to close the doors of the armoire.
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before i spend 2 grand on an armoire, i like to make sure my computer fits in it... dunno, maybe im just weird...
 
With regards to pricing (using crucial as a reference)

2gb (2x 1gb kit) of PC2-4200: 299.72 (what the G5 uses)
2gb (2x 1gb kit) of PC2-5300: 358.43
2gb (2z 1gb kit) of PC2-4200 FULLY BUFFERED ECC: 356.99 (what the Dell "Woodcrest" machines use)

The RAM isnt that much more expensive that what the current machines use (about 16% more) so, again, I am saying W00DCR3$T for MacPro.
 
The current casing is so amazing for the MacBook Pro.

I would like the Mac Pro to go back to a design similar to the last revision of the Power Mac G4 with obvious changes of course: It is superior to the G5 casing.
 
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