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As for windows Update - always a good idea to keep any machine up to date. Windows will do the check in the background while you do other things - no need to sit there waiting.

I know that's how it's supposed to work, but it doesn't work as intended when you don't do updates regularly or spend a good chunk of each day in Windows. I go long stretches of time without firing up Windows and sometimes run into a logjam of updates and I always want to make sure I'm up to date before I get to work so I run Windows Update manually. It finishes, it reboots, and I check to make sure there aren't any missing updates and oftentimes, there's another .NET Framework update or two that didn't get installed for some reason and so I have to wait a little longer before I can get to work.

I can live with that annoyance though. Where Windows Update and I have really learned to hate each other is when I get handed poorly maintained PCs that belong to friends and relatives and am asked to fix them. I don't think people who are saying that Windows Update "just works" are doing much restoring of distressed PCs.
 
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These days, Microsoft is a far more diverse ( technology wise ), exciting and innovative company than Apple.

Profits - that’s always a fall back isn’t it!

Apple have become stale, just like Microsoft did in the last decade.

I think you have it flipped. MS has made machines and an OS that does everything "pretty good" Windows still has several deficiencies for me, though I use it every day. No working Quick Look and inferior search hurt me as I have to quickly go thought hundreds of documents every day.

Their hardware is beautiful and I would switch to it in a second if not for the lack of TB3 and reliance on their proprietary port connector.

At this point, MS builds the most proprietary systems out there. Apple is chided bro being walled off, yet the Mac is the most accessible machine out there thanks to it's easy virtualization and universal port usage. The haters can cry all they want about the USB-C/ TB3 ports, but for me it's the best thing about the machine.

Give me a Surface with two TB3 ports or even better, an X1Carbon with a 16x10 or better, a 3x2 screen and my choice would get much tougher.
 
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I just want a mac laptop with modern internals at a reasonable price. Like they used to make. Instead of yesterdays hardware, with integrated graphics, crappy keyboards and enormous touch-pads. Is that so much to ask?
Yeah, it seems it is.

Could I interest you in some state of the art tablets? watch bands? emojis?
 
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Has anyone noticed how buggy Windows 10 is with high resolution displays? Some apps on my Windows (work) laptop have tiny or huge UI elements, and Windows 10 feels so unpolished to me. That's enough to keep me away form this laptop. I wish I could use a MacBook at work.


It’s not Windows 10. It’s the apps. Some apps are just plain old and doesn’t get updated. Developers doesn’t bother to update their apps to keep up with high resolution displays. Of course, if you want updated apps you have to pay. Prime example is Guitar Pro, before version 7 was released, the app doesn’t display well on high resolution displays be it Windows or Mac.
 
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Has anyone noticed how buggy Windows 10 is with high resolution displays? Some apps on my Windows (work) laptop have tiny or huge UI elements, and Windows 10 feels so unpolished to me. That's enough to keep me away form this laptop. I wish I could use a MacBook at work.

As an owner of Surface Book 2 13''(3000x2000 resolution), I didn't find that may apps that didn't scale properly, maybe one or two. And you can always go into right click -> properties -> compatibility -> change high DPI settings and play with those to normalize any app. Granted, Mac is better in that you don't have to scale anything, but Windows is far closer behind than people think.
 
What a bizarre design, I guess they wanted full size keys for the arrows and that was the trade-off they made.

It's actually not that uncommon for space saving keyboard designs. You see that a lot with 80 key layouts. There are a few keys that don't fit where you really want to put them. Sometimes the shift is bumped, sometimes it's something else.

Most laptop keyboards involve some compromises. If you think about it, the arrow cluster in almost all laptop keyboards is in an awkward place (if you're used to a full sized keyboard).
 
No, I'm talking about the each company overall - Apple and Microsoft.

In every software, there will be features that we miss and OSX vs Windows is no exception. My MacBook Pro 2011 could still run windows 10 - the latest version of Windows. Can't say that about Mac OS - it won't (officially) run Mojave.

"Most" proprietary systems? Really? I'd say its Apple and iPad / iPhone with its proprietary connectors. I'd like to be able to use standard USB C.

Add: As for Virtualization, you can do this under windows too - Hyper-V, VirtualBox, VMWare.. . I don't see how a Mac is better.

I think you have it flipped. MS has made machines and an OS that does everything "pretty good" Windows still has several deficiencies for me, though I use it every day. No working Quick Look and inferior search hurt me as I have to quickly go thought hundreds of documents every day.

Their hardware is beautiful and I would switch to it in a second if not for the lack of TB3 and reliance on their proprietary port connector.

At this point, MS builds the most proprietary systems out there. Apple is chided bro being walled off, yet the Mac is the most accessible machine out there thanks to it's easy virtualization and universal port usage. The haters can cry all they want about the USB-C/ TB3 ports, but for me it's the best thing about the machine.

Give me a Surface with two TB3 ports or even better, an X1Carbon with a 16x10 or better, a 3x2 screen and my choice would get much tougher.
 
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Man, why do PC laptop keyboards and trackpads suck so much? All I really want is a decent laptop that I can stick 32GB RAM in and run Linux. I found a decent one at system76.com, if anybody is looking. This Razer thing...max is 16GB RAM and is non-upgradeable...and the keyboard sucks, so, this is a no go.
Dell XPS 15 (although the keyboard isn't great) or Lenovo X1 Extreme. I believe a number of other ones can easily take Linux. The System76 machines are good though (but not the best designs or build quality).
 
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It’s incredibly easy to run Mac OS in a virtual machine in full screen on these and do non intensive stuff (def not pro video editing ) without noticing a major difference....especially given modern cpus and if you have a fair amount of RAM you can allot the VM. I had a Dell XPS 15 that cast Windows 10 on one monitor and Mac OS on another through a VM and the cursor could move seamlessly across the two OS’s.

I love Mac OS...but a keyboard I can count on is more important.
No no no, not running a VM. I'm talking new-bootloader-macos-as-primary Hackintoshing. The real Hackintoshing where you don't have to split your resources between Win and Mac.
 
...including browsing the web

Oh my!

One nice thing about the Razer is you don't have to use it inside a freezer to get the rated performance from it.
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This bold approach of allowing arbitrary fractional scale factors was eventually abandoned in favor of only allowing integer factors. Your UI is 1x, 2x (such as on Retina Macs), 3x (such as on the iPhone 6 Plus). That's it. This is much, much simpler to accomplish, as all you have to do when scaling bitmap graphics is turn one pixel into a 2x2 grid or 3x3 grid of pixels.

You're just wrong there. To make MacBooks appear to have more real estate, Apple switched the default scale factor to 1.714x a while back in the OS. Similarly, the scale factor on the iPhone 6+ was slightly less than 3x.
 
I have the Razer Blade Stealth 13" (2018 edition), not that different from the one mentioned here. I'm in the Apple tree for many years now, I love Macs, iPhones and iPads, but when I needed a new laptop, I really couldn't spend that much money on a Mac laptop anymore (if you compare the specs-for-the-price with a pc). I don't regret buying the Razer: it's light, beautiful, has gorgeous screen and sound. It's stable, I like the keyboard and trackpad, and I don't thing Windows 10 is bad. It actually made me like Windows again.
It's good to really try something before expression an opinion. Just by looking at some specs and pictures above, you don't know anything. Still, if you really only want Apple stuff, you should buy a Mac :).
 
an Apple website promoting or considering a Windows® laptop...

If this doesn't speak for the current state of the Mac under Cook's reign, I don't know what would...
 
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It's good to really try something before expression an opinion. Just by looking at some specs and pictures above, you don't know anything. :).

Blasphemy! 95% of MR comments would disappear if people's opinions here had to be actually informed. Don't you know facts don't matter, just what people feel?! Get with the program.

But just out of curiosity, the claim has been made that the Razer is subject to heat throttling... how hot does it get?
 
Does not MSFT have higher market capitalization? Windows won.
No, Apple currently has a higher market cap. Market cap moves on a daily basis.

Apple made $60B in profit in FY2018, MSFT made $16.6B. I know who I’d rather be.
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Wait, Windows 10 is "terrible"? Way to be divorced from reality. :D "Full of instability, bugs, security issues, and problems" - what do you base that on? May have been the case in 2005, definitely not today.
I use it in the enterprise, every day. Excel is probably the most instable piece of software on my machines. Absolutely dreadful.
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Except I've never had a problem with instability, bugs problems or security issues on both Android or Windows and neither have a lot of people.
Well that settles it!
 
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These days, Microsoft is a far more diverse ( technology wise ), exciting and innovative company than Apple.

Profits - that’s always a fall back isn’t it!

Apple have become stale, just like Microsoft did in the last decade.
I like Microsoft and own the stock too, but they aren’t Apple in terms of profitability. 1.4B active devices is pretty diverse too.

Microsoft has done a fantastic job moving their business to a services one, which is why it trades at 40Xmearnings. Apple is in the process of doing the same, but won’t lose the $60B in profit.
 
I don't have the 2018 version, but I have the previous gen Stealth. i7-7500u, 16gb RAM, 1800x1200 touch screen display. expandable 250gb NVME storage.

I paid 1400 $CAD.

equally specced MacBook Pro (the new AIR wasn't out yet so i passed) is $2,579.99 CAD.

seemed like a no brainer.

there are some places where it excels over the Mac's lineup, such as performance without thermal throttling (it doesn't), port options (mine has 2 x USB-A 1x USB-C and HDMI, but I like the new port layout better of 2x USB-A and 2xUSB-C)


Where the MacBook Pro excelled over the Razer Stealth. Touchpad. Battery life and overall screen quality (that wider colour gamut is nice). But NONE of those warrant nearly 2x the price.

Pricing was a major factor. I was replacing my old 2011 MBA which had a broken screen. I bought that for 999 in 2011 and in 2018, the nearly identical AIR was also starting at $1700+ CAD.


The one thing I must admit about the 2019 Razer is it looks to be a step backwards. the purchasing options are ridiculous and while still cheaper than the MacBook Pro, now to get the touch/high resolution display, you're looking at about $1900CAD. Still around $500 cheaper than the MBpro. I also prefer the older rounder design language as the boxy sharp edges don't impress me.

Don't get me wrong. my 1st option I looked at was the MacBook Pro 13" non-touchbar for my use. But Apple severely priced them to the point where the value is far less for the price than most of the competition.

Thinking that in 2020 I'll be replacing the Stealth with something tha thas a quad core CPU and get a e-gpu. But unless Apple has a rethink on their pricing, they'll probably get bumped off the list again.
 
Well that settles it!
(Pot and kettle anyone?)

These posts are starting to look like a pissing contest. (Who has the biggest? Apple or Microsoft?).
Yeah, i admit it’s hard to measure stability, but I think the common thinking is Apple has a more stable OS, if for no reason than they limit what is used with Apple gear more so than Microsoft.
 
I have a iMac Pro and a PC side-by-side. I used to dual boot on the Mac but got a dedicated PC for really two main reason -- nVidia cards and g-sync/freesync. Using a display sync makes such a noticeable improvement on gaming that it's really hard to go back to not having it. I really hope Apple addresses this in the new Mac Pro coming out this year.
 
Lenovo should send these guys some Thinkpads to comapre.


I honestly don't get this. If you're running the pro version I think it's pretty decent. I haven't had any display scaling issues for years, I'm mostly using it for science stuff, and keep it all updated. I miss the cool aluminium of the Macbooks but having to use a Thinkpad doesn't feel like a compromise.

Agreed. I'm using Windows 10 Pro on my Thinkpad and have been for over a month since returning to a regular PC, it works just the same if not better than the Macs that preceded it.

I also rather like that I can flip the keyboard around and just have the touchscreen for reading.

I do still prefer Debian Linux, but to say Windows doesn't work just isn't true.
 
Man, why do PC laptop keyboards and trackpads suck so much? All I really want is a decent laptop that I can stick 32GB RAM in and run Linux. I found a decent one at system76.com, if anybody is looking. This Razer thing...max is 16GB RAM and is non-upgradeable...and the keyboard sucks, so, this is a no go.


Trackpad is still the issue for me for non-Apple gear though this gap is closing year after year.
 
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