New Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Commercial Attacks Apple for iPhone 6 Plus

[LordBeelzebub]

"Hello. I'm a Mac."

"And I'm a PC."

Wrong.


Credit card via iTunes? Verses the credit cards through Google, Microsoft, Blackberry? What are you saying?



It's not meant for typing. Hence the Wacom digitizer. It's meant for writing. Apple shows off people using photo applications drawing with their finger. I'd take a pen. Which is why a search for "Apple capacitive stylus" yields millions of results.



Apple doesn't neutralize ads. They don't need to, either. Look at everyone buying an iPhone 6/Plus. People will buy into advertising regardless that it existed years prior.



Let's go back to 2007 when Apple copied off of Microsoft and Nokia. Remember those wars? Or Apple stealing ideas from Xerox Parc. Remember any of that or did history of technology not reach your end of the internet?



Well, Apple added NFC (existed on modern smartphones since 2010 in the Nexus S). Which, always did more than just mobile payments. But I'm sure Apple will release that next years WWDC.

Apple also touted the Apple Watch...That comes in 2015, undercutting your argument.



Nah, Apple fans are just easy targets.



Because you'll choose to use it more?



First, it's not necessarily Apple vs Samsung. Tim Cook said in the interview with Charlie Rose that they are rivaling Google. Also, the first touch screen smartphone wasn't brought to the market by Apple. It existed at least 7 years before the first iPhone came to market.



Nah. It's just funny to see the full support of Apple lovers stroke each others hair trying to make each other feel as though their getting something great.



Yes. I do. Because a company that builds more things has a better idea of the market. Hence the success of Samsung phones. The cool factor...? "Think different." Everything seems the same with Apple. Cool factor is being the same as everyone? Yeah. Okay. Looks like you are buying Apple products to fit in. Bad childhood?

What is Apple doing that Samsung is copying? Looks like the other way around. Welcome to a couple years ago.



The percentage of Microsoft computers is still dominating the market.



Another way Apple manipulates statistics for their gain:

Back when the iPhone came out, it was a success. A modern touch screen smartphone. Even though it lacked front facing camera (those existed before 2007), MMS (Steve Jobs said MMS was dead), multi-tasking (existed in Symbian phones and worked very well), app store (existed before the iPhone from other manufacturers too), it sold millions. Fast forward to the iPad. Steve Jobs said it was to fill the gap between phone and computer. It was never counted into Apple's marketshare of computers because, welll, it was a tablet. Then, when it suited Apple, they said a year later that OSX marketshare was top in the world. But, that is simply not true. Even if you did count all Apple "OSX" devices, it still doesn't come on top of Android. But, if you watch closely, they compare all OSX devices to just Microsoft PCs. So they took mobile statistics, and then started a comparison to all Windows PCs. How clever. And the media ate it up.

I'm trying to figure out why people like you feel the need to go out of your way to post a reply in a forum of a product that you don't like or use. Some of Samsung phones look good in design, but their OS completely sucks @$$ which is why no matter how nice the hardware looks, I'll never own one. One thing I don't do is go out of my way and join a Samsung forum board to boast that the iphone is better, it seems only Samsung and Android users feel the need to do that. Why is that do you suppose? Are you here to "set the record straight" on the history of events or are you trying to convince yourself Samsung and Android OS is better by bashing Apple supporters in an Apple supported forum?

Do you own an Apple product? If not, then why are you here and why do you care?

Is Apple copying Samsung in making a larger phone? Yes, because Apple has realized through Samsung that people actually do like a larger screen. Samsung did that back in 2012, but if Samsung is so innovative and creates "the next best thing", why haven't they evolved that market into something new and original yet?

Let's face it, Samsung only made a larger screen phone as a way to try and top Apples phones. It's one thing they did that worked in their favor.

Samsung's success has come from marketing commercials trying to convince people their products are better because they are similar to Apples but more affordable, and having more features which most are gimmicy features dependandant on a cr@p Andriod OS.

If Samsung wants to do "next best thing", why don't they create a OS of their own that blows iOS and Android out of the water? Making their own OS for their own phones seems common since to me. But Samsung won't do that because they are a copy cat company, and if they did, I'd bet a million bucks it looks and works just like iOS.

Samsung is pathetic and so are their users who go out of their way to post on Apple related forums.

 

[rdlink]

...Or the ipad inspired, galaxy tab

Well, there is the matter of the $1Billion check they're going to write when the appeals are finished...

That might be thanks enough.

 

[Moto G]

Let's be honest here; without Android OS, where would Samsung's Galaxy range be? Probably nowhere at all. When was the last time you heard of a smart phone OS written entirely by the device manufacturer, which worked out well and which people actively sought, and didn't just incidentally happen to come with the device?

Oh... yes; Now I remember. Samsung, if you're that certain of your innovation abilities, create your own OS as well, and show the world.

 

[anomie]

I'm glad Apple doesn't have to stoop this low in order to make their products look better.

Sure, good thing they never attacked windows users in the past to make OS X look better...

 

[Carlanga]

Those commercials showed more of the differences between them (and fairly truthfully so), than trying to bash the other. And it was actually funny.

Is the same, just because you are on the other side now do you think this one is doing something worse… How does this commercial bash while the other show differences? Are they bashing by telling the truth about screen size and reviewer thoughts when they announced their big phone vs today?

 

[Vertigo50]

I'm sorry, the Note 4 may be a very good phone, but Steve Jobs nailed it years ago: " if you see a stylus, they blew it". I actually laugh out loud every time I see someone pull out a stylus these days.

Seriously? You go from touting how great your GIANT phone is and them whip out a stylus? Do my fingers not fit on your giant screen or do you just not know how to make the software woke with my fingers?

 

[RadiDoc]

Apple and Samsung make wonderful products.

Competition are great for us consumers.

The End.

 

[yansun]

Let's be honest here; without Android OS, where would Samsung's Galaxy range be? Probably nowhere at all. When was the last time you heard of a smart phone OS written entirely by the device manufacturer, which worked out well and which people actively sought, and didn't just incidentally happen to come with the device?

Oh... yes; Now I remember. Samsung, if you're that certain of your innovation abilities, create your own OS as well, and show the world.

Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bada

But to be fair, probably every new smartphone OS in the foreseeable future, regardless how good it is, is doomed to fail in the market facing the market power of iOS on the one side and Android on the other side.

 

[Vertigo50]

Sure, good thing they never attacked windows users in the past to make OS X look better...

I assume you're talking about the Mac and PC ads. I agree there are some similarities, but you have to remember that those ads struck such a great balance of lovingly poking fun at PCs while showing what might be better about Macs. And the PC was the best part of those ads, thanks to John Hodgman.

The problem with the Samsung ads is they just come off as whiny and defensive instead of fun and playful. This latest just sounds like it was written by an Android fanboy coming to the Macrumors forums just to bash Apple and stir up trouble. The only thing they did right with this ad was not to show the iPhone 6. Because usually they just end up making the Apple product look better by comparison.

 

[malexandria]

Windows CE and MS Surface - before the iPhone

You do know that LG Prada was before the iPhone right? While Apple made it popular, it certainly wasn't the one that came up with the idea

Apple is good at making things easier for people to use and then taking credit for "inventing" them. But the iPhone borrows a lot it's ideas including touch and zoom from MS's original Surface Demos, that BG spent years demoing at CES. Apple just took all the concepts from that and shrunk it down to phone size, where I will never understand why MS didn't do it first, nor pattent most of the zooming and pinching the original Surface had.

Also Microsoft CE (which borrowed heavily from Palm Pilots) was one of the original "Smartphones" complete with App store YEARS before the iPhone. Again, Apple just took the basic concepts, smoothed it out and then claimed they invented it. The people on these forums are laughably ignorant. Hey, I like Apple as much as the next person here, but come on give people credit where it's due!

You people act like children, somehow Samsung doing an ad attacking Apple is HORRIBLE, but Apple built it's ENTIRE comeback on the basis os slamming "PCs" which everyone knows was a direct attack against MS and Windows and they did attack VISTA specifically for years! At the same time they did their switching commercials they got people to switch by saying you COULD run, guess what WINDOWS.

The revisionist history and blinders posters on this board exhibit is MINDBOGGLING.

 

[Tycho24]

They are NOTHING alike and you know it. The tone alone is miles apart.

Ask a marketing expert if those ads are the same and they'll laugh at you long and hard; that's how much they are dissimilar.

Strange, I see all those Android fans just come out of the woodwork on Apple forums ever single launch (and just before).

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Again, ask a marketing expert if that's true that they are the same if you dare; they will pointedly tell you that NO they aren'T the same at all. I'm a bit of tired of this trope when it doesn't match reality at all.

You saved me a reply!!!
The Mac/PC ads were cute, silly, jovial, light-hearted poking fun at a MUCH bigger competitor that had over 90% of the market share, yet DID actually still have some flaws that were pointed out in a humorous way. They bear NOTHING in common with the Samsung ads, other than there being two tech companies involved & one of them being Apple.
Microsoft didn't weasel their market share through blatantly copying Apple! (sure, they did some underhanded things to some other unrelated companies, but that is neither here nor there). It was an honest & fair jab at Microsoft... & somehow felt playful, not mean & not like a political attack ad.
The people that are still trying to draw a comparison are either desperately trying to grasp at straws, or genuinely have issues comprehending not so subtle differences & nuances.

 

[2IS]

Why does MacRumors post these stories? They're just giving them free advertising at this point. I understand the stories about the actual products of Apple's competition, but why post the attack ads? What kind of good discussion is going to come from this article? Who seriously thinks that this article is a valuable contribution to this site?

Why shouldn't they? I find it funny when people are to insistent on living in their own little Apple bubble that they get angry when something enters it that they don't find favorable.

 

[KPOM]

I assume you're talking about the Mac and PC ads. I agree there are some similarities, but you have to remember that those ads struck such a great balance of lovingly poking fun at PCs while showing what might be better about Macs. And the PC was the best part of those ads, thanks to John Hodgman.

The problem with the Samsung ads is they just come off as whiny and defensive instead of fun and playful.

The other difference is that the Mac vs. PC ads is that they didn't mock Microsoft's customers. Instead, the "PC" simply personified the gripes and inconveniences that people already associated with Windows PCs (e.g. viruses, shaky plug-and-play support in earlier versions, Vista). The closest comparison today are the Cortana vs. Siri ads. Even the Surface vs. MacBook Air ads don't insult Mac users.

 

[ckhris1613]

I don't know what's funnier. That commercial or all u crybabies. Who gives a crap, it's a commercial.

 

[cmwade77]

I wonder if Samsung ever thanked Apple for the fingerprint sensor.

Of course not, as Apple didn't come up with the idea at all.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/motorola...ner-two-years-before-iphone-5s/421125-11.html

Really, Apple hasn't had an innovative idea for a very long time.

Smart Phones - Were on the market well before the first iPhone. The iPhone redefined what they could be.....eventually, but not due to Apple's innovation.

What allowed the iPhone to become a huge success? Apps.
Who found a way to put Apps on the iPhone? Jailbreakers.

Apple saw this and realized that it was the future for the phones, so took the idea and ran with it.

Jailbreakers and competing smart phone OSes (Android) didn't stop there though, they saw much more potential for the phones, such as being able to take video, providing customization, ability to use data for tethering, clipboard, customizable keyboards, etc.

Again, Apple has taken these ideas and incorporated them, but let's be honest here, if it weren't for the jailbreaking community and these other companies, Apple wouldn't have put them in the iPhone.

Even Siri isn't an Apple original, it came from an App (that did far more that Siri does by the way) that Apple bought.

Really, I haven't seen anything out of Apple that couldn't have been found elsewhere first in a long time.

Now, where they have excelled is in making things usable when others have failed at doing so, but they aren't exactly original ideas.

 

[iSee]

Samsung has a point. But I don't see how this helps them sell more phones.

The message is almost: "Want a big phone? Well, now Apple has one too!"

They're pointing out new reasons to buy Apple products and old ones to buy Samsung ones... It's really better advertising for Apple than Samsung.

 

[ashoka8350]

Yes Sammy

I've seen this ad all over today, such an immature attitude. in 2 years, especially in technology, a market can change dramatically. and 4 years ago the focus wasn't on screen size.

Sammy is comparing a YUGO truck to big Mercedes just because they are the same size and YUGO truck came first.

Yes, Sammy, Mercedes did copy YUGO truck !!

 

[cmwade77]

I'm sorry, the Note 4 may be a very good phone, but Steve Jobs nailed it years ago: " if you see a stylus, they blew it". I actually laugh out loud every time I see someone pull out a stylus these days.

Seriously? You go from touting how great your GIANT phone is and them whip out a stylus? Do my fingers not fit on your giant screen or do you just not know how to make the software woke with my fingers?

A proper stylus has it's place for precision/detailed graphical work, even on an iPhone. The Note 4 doesn't need a stylus to be used, but it's great to have a spot to put it for when it is needed.

 

[KPOM]

Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bada

But to be fair, probably every new smartphone OS in the foreseeable future, regardless how good it is, is doomed to fail in the market facing the market power of iOS on the one side and Android on the other side.

Samsung is trying with Tizen, though it looks like for now it will be limited to the Gear line since it isn't gaining any traction in smartphones. I'm guessing that Samsung doesn't want to be dependent on Google in the wearables space.

 

[Trapezoid]

Samsung has a point. But I don't see how this helps them sell more phones.

The message is almost: "Want a big phone? Well, now Apple has one too!"

They're pointing out new reasons to buy Apple products and old ones to buy Samsung ones... It's really better advertising for Apple than Samsung.

It worked too, apple sold 4m in 24hrs.

 

[iSee]

Of course not, as Apple didn't come up with the idea at all.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/motorola...ner-two-years-before-iphone-5s/421125-11.html

Really, Apple hasn't had an innovative idea for a very long time.

Smart Phones - Were on the market well before the first iPhone. The iPhone redefined what they could be.....eventually, but not due to Apple's innovation.

What allowed the iPhone to become a huge success? Apps.
Who found a way to put Apps on the iPhone? Jailbreakers.

Apple saw this and realized that it was the future for the phones, so took the idea and ran with it.

Jailbreakers and competing smart phone OSes (Android) didn't stop there though, they saw much more potential for the phones, such as being able to take video, providing customization, ability to use data for tethering, clipboard, customizable keyboards, etc.

Again, Apple has taken these ideas and incorporated them, but let's be honest here, if it weren't for the jailbreaking community and these other companies, Apple wouldn't have put them in the iPhone.

Even Siri isn't an Apple original, it came from an App (that did far more that Siri does by the way) that Apple bought.

Really, I haven't seen anything out of Apple that couldn't have been found elsewhere first in a long time.

Now, where they have excelled is in making things usable when others have failed at doing so, but they aren't exactly original ideas.

Man, we have very different ideas on what innovation is.

As someone who's been around tech for a long time, its hard for me to get excited by a gee-whiz tech demo. While I can appreciate the potential, getting something out their first is do very, very different (and so much, much more common) than making something useful or valuable.

(Also, Jailbreakers did not come up with the idea of putting apps on smart phones. Come on.)

 

[LordBeelzebub]

Who the hell wants to use a stylus these days? Talk about last gen input devise. I would love to know how many users of their devise actually use that cr@p thing on a consistent basis. LOL

Just another gimic thing Samsung uses to try and make themselves look better from.

He's speaking the truth.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Ok let's be fair.

Thanks Samsung...

For making crappy large screen phones that pressured Apple into making an awesome large screen phone.

You've earned that boast. Fair enough.

 

[dragje]

Two sites very much focusing solely on specs... Who cares? Seriously. Spec sheets are meaningless for mobile phone. Some quotes from the techradar story:


Who cares? Why does it matter?

Who cares? Why does it matter?

Reviewer has not tried the device, the review is based solely off the spec sheet.

All true, but it does means that in specs the iPhone is no longer a leading device where they used to be in the leading spot. That's all, and for a company that drives on the phrase being the best, which Apple stated over and over again, one can't deny those remarkable differences.

I agree it's more then just specs, and don't get me wrong, I love Apple, especially it's ecosystem. I just conclude that Apple does't take the lead any longer, and based on personal experiences one could say, general speaking, that the new iPhones take lead -together with- . . .

It's not clear any longer which phone is "better", is now more a matter of "taste".

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I don't know what's funnier. That commercial or all u crybabies. Who gives a crap, it's a commercial.

Very true.

 

[dgree03]

Ok let's be fair.

Thanks Samsung...

For making crappy large screen phones that pressured Apple into making an awesome large screen phone.

You've earned that boast. Fair enough.

What is crappy about the Note 3 and Note 4 exactly?

Altho I plan on trying out a 6 plus, I cannot ignore the fact that Apple made a large phone just for the sake of doing it, with very little additional functionality to take advantage of the screen size