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Wait wait wait Samsung, I remember a device that you copied to make the Note 2, wait here it is, an Apple device... Even has a pen. God I hate these comments and commercials, they all think they invented the wheel, when in fact more then likely its all been done before.
 

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Trashy commercial as usual. Effective though, the android fanboys eat this stuff up.

Funny thing is they weren't the first to have a big screen. Pretty sure it was Dell.

And Apple wasn't the first smartphone maker. It was Compaq (iPAQ)~
 
Samsung has great marketing. Many Apple apologists are really mad and say "Apple doesn't stoop that low." How is it a low when it's the truth that people dismiss factors that aren't related to their "precious iDevice" but claim it's groundbreaking when iDevices get the features?

Here's one groundbreaking feature that people tend to forget. The scramble is on for all the Andrrhoid devices to come up to date...2 years late to the party. Remember the lightning cable? Er herm...reversible...er herm.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/02/new-reversible-usb-cable-will-be-ready-for-nexus-6-note-4/

"While this sounds like a very small deal, anyone that routinely charges smartphones on a nightstand will know the pain of trying to plug in an Android smartphone to charge in the dark while half asleep. Apple solved this problem with a proprietary Lightning cable in 2012, but Android users still know this frustration on a daily basis."
 
But you're not forced to buy anything you don't want to. You chose to buy a larger iPhone. You could have chosen something else if you wanted to.

I enjoy the experience of the iPhone. If I want the latest and greatest phone, I'm then forced to upgrade the size of the screen. Not complaining, but I would have preferred the small 4" screen.
 
Samsung has a point. But I don't see how this helps them sell more phones.

The message is almost: "Want a big phone? Well, now Apple has one too!"

They're pointing out new reasons to buy Apple products and old ones to buy Samsung ones... It's really better advertising for Apple than Samsung.

Best post in this entire thread
 
The other difference is that the Mac vs. PC ads is that they didn't mock Microsoft's customers. Instead, the "PC" simply personified the gripes and inconveniences that people already associated with Windows PCs (e.g. viruses, shaky plug-and-play support in earlier versions, Vista). The closest comparison today are the Cortana vs. Siri ads. Even the Surface vs. MacBook Air ads don't insult Mac users.

Oh my god, I just realized something. Remember in those ads how Mac would say something that Macs do better and then PC would get all defensive and make the case why he could do it too?

Take out the Mac character and you've basically got a Samsung ad! :) It's all the defensiveness and "me too" attitude without the humor to make it work!

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Samsung has a point. But I don't see how this helps them sell more phones.

The message is almost: "Want a big phone? Well, now Apple has one too!"

They're pointing out new reasons to buy Apple products and old ones to buy Samsung ones... It's really better advertising for Apple than Samsung.

Yes! My thought exactly. The message is:

Hey, have you seen all those big phones with large bright screens and wished your iphone was bigger? Well now it is! And the best part is you don't have to suffer through using Android to get it!

Also, how exactly do people think larger screens is a big innovation? You think Apple doesn't have prototypes from several years back at every screen size imaginable? They made a decision. Then they CHANGED THEIR MINDS when buyers started asking for it.

Big screens are an innovation? I'm designing a revolutionary phone coming out next month. It has an 8 INCH SCREEN! Next year, I'm going to blow the industry wide open with and 8.5-INCH SCREEN! I don't know what I'll do after that, though. I might be out of innovative ideas. I'll get back to you. :)
 
Did you actually read what you wrote?


We never said "Microsoft makes a terrible operating system" but by god the Microsoft OS has the following issues: "Viruses, bloatware, spyware, multiple complicated versions of Windows, no easy out-of-the-box setups, slow downs from registry errors. " Again, don't misunderstand us, we are by no means whatsoever saying the OS is terrible. We are specifically NOT saying THAT!

Oh, and we also didn't use social media... but that was probably a side effect that it didn't really exist at the time .

You have no idea what you're talking about, period. Social media is what MR is. There have been online forums long before the Mac vs. PC ads. Even Facebook came out before the Mac vs. PC ads and Apple never used quotes from trolling public posts to embarrass Microsoft.

Oh, that's the end of your nonsense argument against my post. :p

Bloatware doesn't make a system terrible, it's just added freebee trial software that didn't need to be there. It makes the overall experience of owning a new Windows PC annoying. Viruses and Spyware are due to MS not working hard on security. That can be fixed and you can thank Apple for that because Microsoft certainly went to work to fix those issues.

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Sure, good thing they never attacked windows users in the past to make OS X look better...

Apple actually never attacked Windows users. Unlike Samsung who attacks iPhone users.
 
Here's one groundbreaking feature that people tend to forget. The scramble is on for all the Andrrhoid devices to come up to date...2 years late to the party. Remember the lightning cable? Er herm...reversible...er herm.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/02/new-reversible-usb-cable-will-be-ready-for-nexus-6-note-4/

"While this sounds like a very small deal, anyone that routinely charges smartphones on a nightstand will know the pain of trying to plug in an Android smartphone to charge in the dark while half asleep. Apple solved this problem with a proprietary Lightning cable in 2012, but Android users still know this frustration on a daily basis."

Not for nothing, but I haven't plugged my Samsung Note 3 in since I bought it. My phone uses inductive charging. I just set it on a pad and it charges. It's easier than the Lighting plug. This is one feature the iPhone doesn't have that I wish it did.

I've recently switched from Apple to Samsung (got the Note 3 when it came out and will not be going back for the 6 Plus; rather happy with my stylus). Having used both platforms, the truth is that each has advantages over the other. There is no better platform, just different ones. Using both and deciding is the best advice I can give. Using only one and assuming its superiority is plain silly.

I'd love to have an iPhone plus with an S-pen, inductive charging, a swapable battery, a micro SD card slot, Android widgets and the back button in the lower right corner. The Note 3 has many features that I use on a daily basis that the iPhone Plus does not, but I like the Apple ecosystem (iMessage, pics and video are waaaaay easier to share, syncing your library is great, air play kicks ass, iPhoto and iMovie, photosteam...the list is long). Tons of reasons to love features that both companies bring to the table. I wish I could get a hybrid! At the end of the day, I use my phone mostly at work and the features that the Note 3 offer outweigh the frustrations of not being in the Apple ecosystem.

As for this add in particular, it's kind of like that athlete everyone hates excepts for the fan base of the team he's on. "I hate LeBron James...oh wait he's a Cav again? Go LeBron!" Apple fans will think it's low, but Samsung fans will love it. As someone who's more or less neutral, I really don't see it any different than the I'm a Mac adds.
 
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Apple is good at making things easier for people to use and then taking credit for "inventing" them. But the iPhone borrows a lot it's ideas including touch and zoom from MS's original Surface Demos, that BG spent years demoing at CES. Apple just took all the concepts from that and shrunk it down to phone size, where I will never understand why MS didn't do it first, nor pattent most of the zooming and pinching the original Surface had.

Also Microsoft CE (which borrowed heavily from Palm Pilots) was one of the original "Smartphones" complete with App store YEARS before the iPhone. Again, Apple just took the basic concepts, smoothed it out and then claimed they invented it. The people on these forums are laughably ignorant. Hey, I like Apple as much as the next person here, but come on give people credit where it's due!

You people act like children, somehow Samsung doing an ad attacking Apple is HORRIBLE, but Apple built it's ENTIRE comeback on the basis os slamming "PCs" which everyone knows was a direct attack against MS and Windows and they did attack VISTA specifically for years! At the same time they did their switching commercials they got people to switch by saying you COULD run, guess what WINDOWS.

The revisionist history and blinders posters on this board exhibit is MINDBOGGLING.

This is a hilarious post because the majority of it is completely wrong. The whole nonsense about Apple borrowing the pinch and zoom idea from MS's Surface demos. LMAO. Any proof of that? Of course not.

I just love how you brought up the Palm Pilots...but did you know where Palm got their ideas from? Yep, from Apple. Ever heard of the Apple Newton MessagePad? Came out years before. Had a stylus and ran on a micronized version of Mac OS. Had a large screen and after it was discontinued then out popped the Palm pilot which very much resembled the Apple Newton MessagePad.

Once again, I just love how some of you here remind the forum about the Mac vs. PC ads when they were between APPLE AND MICROSOFT. Samsung has no place to step in. They were not attacked by Apple. Doesn't give them the open door. Plus Samsung's ads have been direct attacks to Apple's customers, more than they have Apple. Which is just shameful and stupid of them.

Hey, I like Apple as much as the next person here, but come on give people credit where it's due!
Somehow I find that 100% hard to believe.
 
Apple does not innovate anymore. But when they do something, they do it right. My friends laughed at me when I mentioned the iPhone 6 is getting NFC. But I guarentee I will use my phone to pay for stuff more before 2014 ends, then they have with Google wallet in the past 3 years.

doesn't innovate anymore? what nonsense. these phones don't design themselves thinner and thinner by themselves. or write their camera sensor code by themselves. or integrate their biometrics, or build out payment systems. the Mac Pros didn't shrink themselves into an insanely small foot print. the iMacs didn't build their own fusion drives. etc etc...

Apple did it. innovation isn't the same word as invention. look them up.
 
Not for nothing, but I haven't plugged my Samsung Note 3 in since I bought. My phone uses inductive charging. I just set it on a pad and it charges. It's easier than the Lighting plug.

I've recently switched from Apple to Samsung (got the Note 3 when it came out and will not be going back for the 6 Plus, rather happy with my stylus).

So what made you decide to post here if you're enjoying your Samsung Note 3?
 
'Precious' and 'groundbreaking' aren't foremost on iPhone users minds. Only in the divisive and denigrating minds of Samsung marketers and some Android fans is this even an issue.

Then why are people offended by the truth that the Nexus 4 had most of the "new touted" features on the iPhone 6? People are very offended. I have seen all the iFans I know go crazy for a phablet now even though they claimed to hate it 2 years ago. Times change when they see another company compete with market standards.
 
Are there really people out there that would buy something over a comparable product JUST because it was the first? I mean, that being their only metric?

Because that's what this ad is alluding to. "You don't want this iPhone, because we had this feature two years ago. Oh, and here's our new one with the exact same feature."
 
Here's one groundbreaking feature that people tend to forget. The scramble is on for all the Andrrhoid devices to come up to date...2 years late to the party. Remember the lightning cable? Er herm...reversible...er herm.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/02/new-reversible-usb-cable-will-be-ready-for-nexus-6-note-4/

"While this sounds like a very small deal, anyone that routinely charges smartphones on a nightstand will know the pain of trying to plug in an Android smartphone to charge in the dark while half asleep. Apple solved this problem with a proprietary Lightning cable in 2012, but Android users still know this frustration on a daily basis."

Cool irrelevant story bro. If you complain about not being able to plug something in properly, then you have petty problems. I have no problems with my USB 3.0 cable when charging my phone. I can charge my phone quicker than most users, so yeah....
 
Wait wait wait Samsung, I remember a device that you copied to make the Note 2, wait here it is, an Apple device... Even has a pen. God I hate these comments and commercials, they all think they invented the wheel, when in fact more then likely its all been done before.

2016
iPhone 7 Plus - Now with a stylus
"Because Apple invented smartphones and palmtops with a stylus, so it's not copying."
 
Im curious to know if many in Apple have wanted a phablet for a long time... and Steve refused... and they are now are free to do it... or if market research on the number of people that desire it swayed them. Since Steve has been gone they seem to be loosening up. This could be potentially dangerous.

Probably some of both? I know my mom is looking forward to a phablet, because it's easier to read. I understand and sympathize with the practicality of a large screen phone. However, I'm likely to razz her about it too. :D
 
Yup, Samsung really burned me for wanting the 6! I mean, how many times have you been watching a video on your iPhone and you're like, "Man, I really wish I could be awkwardly doing something else on the other side of the screen right now!" God deliver me from morons :rolleyes:
iPhone 6 FTW
 
Probably some of both? I know my mom is looking forward to a phablet, because it's easier to read. I understand and sympathize with the practicality of a large screen phone. However, I'm likely to razz her about it too. :D

Haha... yea. And I have razzed enough people that Im going to get it back good if I ever end up with one :eek:
 
Is the same, just because you are on the other side now do you think this one is doing something worse… How does this commercial bash while the other show differences? Are they bashing by telling the truth about screen size and reviewer thoughts when they announced their big phone vs today?

No, I'm referring to the entirety of the ad's. Samsung seems to go out of there way to show Apple iPhones in a bad light. Even when that light shows how much more people use iPhones. Case in point was the original ad's that shows Apple fanboys/gals waiting in line for the next iPhone. Which is stupid, because no one is waiting in line for Samsung phones, or any droid phone for that matter. Dumb ad in my view. Shows Apple as being more popular and valued over Samsung.
This ad in particular does not make me want to get a Samsung phone. I don't want a stylus (1990's anyone?). There is only so much multitasking you can do on such a small screen. Nice you can do it sure, but it's it actually something most users do? Most likely not.
The wall hugger commercial. While funny, isn't reality. I personally regularly go all day with out a charge. My phone has been off a charger since 9am today EST, its 4:03 as of this post and I'm at 83% charge left. Checking emails, SMS's and web stuff from email links. 17% down? According to Samsung I should hugging a wall right now. Not only that but, in the same ad they should the Samsung user switching her phone to an ultra low power mode. Which means they have battery life yes, but the phone is doing jack squat in the mean time. Sooooo, what good is that exactly when your not able to use the phone? I can put the iPhone in Airplane mode and shut off all communication access that would drain the battery too. Failed comparison in my view.

Again, I'm not bashing Samsung. The phones themselves are fine, if you like plastic and lots of wonderful hardware specs thrown at you (no 64bit CPU still? Or OS to support it?). They do have features that are cool (water resistance/proof, quad and 8 core CPU's for that heavy multitasking, and there totally open nature). However, I'll stick with my iPhone. It works just fine, I get everything I need on it, and it's very well built. All the apps I need are safely a figure print touch away. And soon, so will my shopping. Securely and conveniently. If only I had that before shopping at Home Depot!!! :eek:
 
I think this is a good ad. I'm willing to bet they are targetting Android fans who haven't made up their mind which Android phone they are going to. A lot of Android users are people who are against Apple on principle and would love this kind of ad. You gotta remember, Apple is only one of Samsung's competitors. And it's the only one that is running a really different system (otherwords they have a lot of competitors that are running the same system so the people looking for that system have other options).

It's obviously not aimed at Apple users. And I'm betting Samsung isn't so worried about converting the Apple users more than people who want an Android phone or are thinking of going to Android. They have to convince those people that Samsung's Android phone is the one for them and not some other company's android phone. Speaking to them on a level they would fully agree with (many are offended at Apple and how they perceive apple as just copying) is one way to get them to look at Samsung closer.

If they offend a few Apple fans, oh well, they weren't going to get their business anyways so why should they care?

Well said, I feel like Samsung releases a pro-Samsung ad targeting the shortfalls of its competition and every die hard Apple fan feels the need to come to their rescue. Both Samsung and Apple are going to be fine no matter what people on these boards say...
 
However, I'll stick with my iPhone. It works just fine, I get everything I need on it, and it's very well built. All the apps I need are safely a figure print touch away. And soon, so will my shopping. Securely and conveniently. If only I had that before shopping at Home Depot!!! :eek:

Yeah, now I wish I'd used Google Wallet at Home Depot (like my daughter and son-in-law have always done for the past few years), instead of swiping my credit card at checkout.
 
I think the point of those ads was to try to persuade mobile phone users to go against the herd in a way. The only problem was that this tactic that apple successfully used against MS and PC makers "back in the day" does not have much power coming from a Samsung which is the direct opposite of what apple was back in the day. Samsung's tactics would be more suited for google to come and apply if it were to start advertising its OS compared to IOS (Which it really doesn't need to atm) or even a company like HTC which has a design language that is quite different from the "fast follower" title samsung prides itself as. From a marketing point of view, samsung can do well by adjusting its strategy as these attacks have clearly not worked given the sort of people switching form samsung to apple (even before the big screen phones)..On the other hand i do believe that a company as large as apple can shorten its product development time-line specifically for services and software and roll out changes faster and more frequently. We all know apple takes it time to bring out changes but by'n'large those changes are implemented in a far more elegant manner than similar changes to Android OS or OEM specific skin..however, there is in my opinion a case for apple to speed things up a bit in some areas.
 
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