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All true, but it does means that in specs the iPhone is no longer a leading device where they used to be in the leading spot. That's all, and for a company that drives on the phrase being the best, which Apple stated over and over again, one can't deny those remarkable differences.


It's not clear any longer which phone is "better", is now more a matter of "taste".

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Very true.

Apple has never led on specs with the iPhone (except for the new processor architecture). The first iPhone was 2G when everyone else was 3G, and didn't even support MMS. The iPhone didn't get LTE until the iPhone 5. Phones like the Nokia N95 had GPS before the iPhone. Even the LG Prada had a capacitive touchscreen. It's not that Apple doesn't care about specs. They just don't see the need to add something until they can find a use for it.
 
Really, Apple hasn't had an innovative idea for a very long time.

You're focusing on innovation as inventing a new device or concept when that's not all that it is:

"Innovation can be viewed as the application of better solutions that meet new requirements, inarticulated needs, or existing market needs."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innovation

Apple takes pre-existing concepts, ideas and processes and brings them together in a smooth, unified manner that equates to customer satisfaction and loyalty. It is where they excel and what's made them the company they are today.

Personally, as a user of these products, so far I care less about who has the specs first and more about the presentation and ease of use. Do I hope and want Apple to step it up when it comes to features and specs? Absolutely. But I still think they're very creative and innovative in the way they approach ideas and how they bring them to consumers.
 
yes because apple doesn't insult your intelligence when they tell you a 4 inch screen is "common sense" one day and that a bigger screen is better the next?


or when they say they are successfully re-inventing the way people pay because unlike previous attempts by other people "they are not concerned with personal gain but rather are focused on the consumer"; yet the whole system only works with an iPhone? - using a technology that's been around for years? And with the majority of smartphone users using Android they think they'll establish a new worldwide norm for payments?

ya...


Then why is Google Pay not the norm by now and the main stream way to purchase?

Because there is a BIG difference in doing it first and doing it RIGHT!

Something you and companies like Samsung fail to realize...and why their 2nd rate at smartphones and always will be!

People like you and companies like Samsung will never understand Apples product philosophy which is the real underlying factor in their success and they sell so many iPhones even though Samsungs might have a few more features than theirs. You people just don't have a clue.
 
LOL, that’s quite funny.
I gotta say tho. Windows has changed. A lot. It’s also a lot more stable. A lot more stable. As much as I still think Windows is horrid, that icon isn’t really applicable to how things are in my experience.

Yeah, it is a lot more stable than before. Still buggy but very improved. Still, if you change the CPU or certain other hardware without reinstalling Windows, you're sure to get the BSoD. When I was upgrading a friend's PC with him, that was a ridiculous problem for us. There was also that issue with Bing causing BSoDs on the school Win7 computers, not that the variables there were very controlled.
 
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I wonder what commercials coming out today to bash iPhone 6/6plus staggering preorders sales.

Well they don't want people in lines for their products, so I'm assuming they don't want people buying their products either.

Maybe they'll put out a commercial making fun of people who go to stores?
 
huh?

Let's be honest here; without Android OS, where would Samsung's Galaxy range be? Probably nowhere at all. When was the last time you heard of a smart phone OS written entirely by the device manufacturer, which worked out well and which people actively sought, and didn't just incidentally happen to come with the device?

Oh... yes; Now I remember. Samsung, if you're that certain of your innovation abilities, create your own OS as well, and show the world.

What kind of stupid question is this? The whole point of Galaxy line is to be a you know, ANDROID phone! Now this thread has officially entered the twilight zone.
 
I dislike when a company has to resort to making others look bad to sell product.... I'd rather they emphasize their own strengths than others weaknesses


*edit- Yes I am aware of the "Im a Mac" ads that ended 5 years ago

I agree. And what I hate about those people who always bring up the "I'm a Mac" ads don't see the difference. The "I'm a Mac" ads followed up with "..and I'm a PC". Not with "I'm a Dell" or "I'm an HP".

Mac simply fought against the typical "PC". The undertone was obviously against Windows and computers that primarily used Windows. Whereas, these Samsung ads are just "Hey look, we're Samsung and that Apple thing is dumb hahahahah".
 
Your Kidding right?

When you're the gold standard, you don't mention your competitor. Hence, why Apple rarely, if ever, mentions Samsung.

iSheep easily forget the commercial apple did, showing a thumb in one hand able to reach each corner of the iPhone and saying "there is a reason its this size" LOL Come on people don't blindly follow or blindly forget apple thought that the iPhone 4 was the right size and didn't need to go any bigger. Neither is better, just different tools for different people.

Also, Steve Jobs, never wanted the iPhone bigger as well, he thought it was a fade and would never take off.

Im one for the right tool for the right Job, kind of person, everything can't be a nail, Ive had about every phone, except the brick! :) Pro's and Con's for both, I had an iPhone and switched to the Note, there are great features in the note that aren't in the iPhone not just the stylus. I would switch back to the iPhone if it weren't for those features that make it a more productive phone for me as there are some apps on the iPhone not available to the android in my line of work, but just can't give up the features of the Note, like drawing a window to open an app on top of another, nifty feature.
 
All they do is promote Apple. Shame they don't see it. I see why the plus is being sold. People probably weren't aware Apple had a gigantic phone until they watched the commercial lol
 
I agree. And what I hate about those people who always bring up the "I'm a Mac" ads don't see the difference. The "I'm a Mac" ads followed up with "..and I'm a PC". Not with "I'm a Dell" or "I'm an HP".

Mac simply fought against the typical "PC". The undertone was obviously against Windows and computers that primarily used Windows. Whereas, these Samsung ads are just "Hey look, we're Samsung and that Apple thing is dumb hahahahah".
Of course there is a difference between the Apple and Samsung ads in quality, but as you said they were - through the "target" PC - directed at a certain company, namely Microsoft. https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/19692469/
 
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Why shouldn't they? I find it funny when people are to insistent on living in their own little Apple bubble that they get angry when something enters it that they don't find favorable.

And why are you entering in the Apple bubble? Is it you don't find Apple excitement favorable? Therefore getting angry at favorable Apple comments and parading your anger! Very hypercritical of you, no??? Isn't that funny too??? :cool::apple::apple:
 
They spend a lot of money marketing to people who are a minority of consumers? Seems like you would have to follow things pretty closely to understand the point of this. All they can say is, we were first? They don't do a good job of stating why the phone is better except to say they have a stylus (which fewer people use it appears), and that they can multitask. But, they again don't really show why that feature is important in and of itself (multitasking). They need to be smarter with their ads.

Thats because they're out of ideas. They have no way of explaining why their phone is better when they have to resort to a stylus. As if thats a selling point for iPhone users
 
I don't know what the deal is in the U.S, but here in the U.K it's extremely rare to see either an iPhone or a Samsung smartphone TV ad; certainly rarer for Android-based devices. What I have noticed however is that the Samsung videos like those in this article don't even see the light of day.

This is what makes Samsung's intentions all the more baffling. To class these videos as 'commercials' seems quite wrong, as the script attempts to use sarcasm as a way of making Samsung products appear cooler. "We did it first, and since Apple are copying us, that makes their product worse."

But this approach is clear in all their videos, and is so specific to a demographic of audience that if you don't follow technology as a hobby or interest, then the points made will go completely over your head.

The result of which makes Samsung appear incredibly crude, as rather than using their time to advertise a product and the brand, they are the ones who try to draw another company and its users into an unnecessary conflict.

Perhaps they should stick to making fridges?
 
Samsung has great marketing. Many Apple apologists are really mad and say "Apple doesn't stoop that low." How is it a low when it's the truth that people dismiss factors that aren't related to their "precious iDevice" but claim it's groundbreaking when iDevices get the features?
 
This banter is for children with misplaced size issues. Not all of us want a megaphone, or are now considering it as performance, storage and display quality makes it a viable mini tablet.
 
The ads are like rap battles for technology, so of course all the sides are taking pot shots at each other. I thought the ad was funny, and I have no intention of buying any Samsung product. Personally, I'm going to continue making fun of all the phablet lines. :D

Im curious to know if many in Apple have wanted a phablet for a long time... and Steve refused... and they are now are free to do it... or if market research on the number of people that desire it swayed them. Since Steve has been gone they seem to be loosening up. This could be potentially dangerous.
 
Samsung has great marketing. Many Apple apologists are really mad and say "Apple doesn't stoop that low." How is it a low when it's the truth that people dismiss factors that aren't related to their "precious iDevice" but claim it's groundbreaking when iDevices get the features?

'Precious' and 'groundbreaking' aren't foremost on iPhone users minds. Only in the divisive and denigrating minds of Samsung marketers and some Android fans is this even an issue.
 
Apple's mobile pyramid scheme is coming to an end. That's what makes this such a great commercial. The emporer truly has no clothes. The icing on the cake would be Samsung suing Apple.
 
Hey mods, why did you shut down the thread in the alternatives section? It was nice to have a balanced discussion over there and not be overwhelmed in this thread.
 
What kind of stupid question is this? The whole point of Galaxy line is to be a you know, ANDROID phone! Now this thread has officially entered the twilight zone.

He had a valid point. If you think making a decision to put out a larger sized phone makes you such a great innovative company (and clearly Samsung does, since it is running commercials as such)... then you are misinformed about what innovation means. As if the idea of making a 5+ sized screen had never ever occurred to Apple or anyone else, but for Samsung doing it. By this logic, then Samsung owes thanks to Apple. Since Samsung thought the original iPhone was too big. So clearly Apple's innovation in making a 3.5" phone was a great eye opener for Samsung. And so innovative. :D
 
Jeeze. 1,000 posts not enough? Ignore the hate. This is a time of celebration.

Understand the sad, and frustrated. Striking out is all they know. Embrace them, feel their pain.

Then hit ignore. :apple:
 
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