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New Snow Leopard Build (10A261) Seeded to Developers

namethisfile said:
How do you know this? what makes a GPU OpenCl capable?
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Driver support and programable shaders. Most likely unified shader model cards such as the ATi Radeon X1900 + and the Nvidea Geforce 9800(though i believe Nvidea were much later on the unified shaders than ATi) and the Intel GMA 4XXX GPU's.

The other option would be shader model 2 cards starting with the Geforce 6XXX(The FX range are to poorly preforming at SM 2 instructions and missed a lot of the instruction set) and the ATI X6xx.
 
themoonisdown09 said:
I've used the past 3 OS's from the first week they were released and I've not had any real major issues with any of them.
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Major? No. But the ridiculous little ones are what drove me insane. My biggest, which have yet to be fixed are...

Using Back Button to back up one folder maintains previous folder view and not the view of the present folder. (works fine with key shortcut navigation)

Spotlight defaults to entire drive instead of the folder you are searching.

This is just an example. These little niggley bits can drive one to distraction, and it would take Apple an hour to fix. Maybe two to test.
 
Sky Blue said:
I think people forget that 10.4.0 was unstable as was 10.3.0 (wiping of FireWire Drives). I'm guessing 10.6.0 will follow suit.
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Some people seem to think that because Apple says 10.6 is focusing on "stability," that means its first release will automatically be more stable than 10.5.x. That's ridiculous.

HackBook said:
Err correct me if I'm wrong, but 10.5 was released October 25 2007?
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October 26.

Tallest Skil said:
10.x is not a "service pack".

10.x.x are the "service packs". 10.x are new OS'.
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How about "major revision" and "minor revision"? It's hard to call it "new" when over 95% (probably over 99%) of the code in OS X will not change.

Kilamite said:
I don't think Apple would choose Snow Leopard as a release name.
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It's getting pretty late in the day to change it.

But if it were to be called, say Lion, there is a big difference in the names and people would know whether they had Leopard or Lion, unlike Snow Leopard or Leopard.
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I don't foresee an OS X 10.x Lion. The image is one of a lazy, bloated, and relatively slow big cat. ;)

nuckinfutz said:
I don't see any reason why Apple should extend the programming effort for a platform that will barely be able to handle the new core functionality in Snow Leopard.
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Please, let's not go through the agony of the PPC debate yet another time. :(
 
Eric S. said:
It's getting pretty late in the day to change it.

I don't foresee an OS X 10.x Lion. The image is one of a lazy, bloated, and relatively slow big cat. ;)
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It is just a code name - the Apple TV was iTV until it was released. There's no reason why they wouldn't be able to give the actual release a distinguishable name.

How about OS X Lynx then ;) If you go by the deodorant connotations - sleek, smooth, simple etc lol.
 
I love the idea of Snow Leopard. Instead of just piling on more features, take 18 months to tweak what you already have, fix some bugs, and make it more efficient.

I would have preferred that this be a free upgrade than another paid release, but so be it.

I started my Mac experience with 10.3. 10.4 was okay, but Leopard (10.5) is by far the best of the three. That said, it's not without problems.

One area Apple needs to work on is interoperating with Windows File Servers. Like it or not, the Windows Small Business server is a staple of the corporate world. I still can't reliably copy a file from my Mac to a SBS. That's just not acceptable.

If Snow Leopard can make this bullet-proof, I'll plunk down $140 for it.
 
RichardI said:
Is this the one (10.6) that will make better use of multi-core machines?
If it is, I too wish they would release it.
Coming from the PC world originally, it is quite different to see this kind of release. Windows was never done that way (that I know of). But then again Windows never charged for their updates (service packs). OSX is cheaper to buy in the first place though...

Rich :cool:
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Tiger to Leopard to Snow Leopard are not service packs.

Just because Microsoft only manages to push out an OS once every 6 years that does not mean that other companies who update their operating systems at regular intervals are just service packs. If you look at the difference between Tiger and Leopard you will see there are far more new features than between XP and Vista.

None of those features would be able to be released in a service pack. A service pack is a bug update.
 
chameleon said:
I love the idea of Snow Leopard. Instead of just piling on more features, take 18 months to tweak what you already have, fix some bugs, and make it more efficient.

I would have preferred that this be a free upgrade than another paid release, but so be it.

I started my Mac experience with 10.3. 10.4 was okay, but Leopard (10.5) is by far the best of the three. That said, it's not without problems.

One area Apple needs to work on is interoperating with Windows File Servers. Like it or not, the Windows Small Business server is a staple of the corporate world. I still can't reliably copy a file from my Mac to a SBS. That's just not acceptable.

If Snow Leopard can make this bullet-proof, I'll plunk down $140 for it.
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Well honestly we don't know what Apple intends to do on pricing. I don't think it's worth $129 for optimizations and a bit of polishing. I think in this time of recession it would be nice for Apple to deliver it as a free upgrade but then how do they appease those who purchased Leopard? Why would Tiger users get to update and bypass the $129?
 
Kilamite said:
It is just a code name - the Apple TV was iTV until it was released. There's no reason why they wouldn't be able to give the actual release a distinguishable name.

How about OS X Lynx then ;) If you go by the deodorant connotations - sleek, smooth, simple etc lol.
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Cougar: a middle age OS that only runs on newer machines.;);):D
 
nuckinfutz said:
Well honestly we don't know what Apple intends to do on pricing. I don't think it's worth $129 for optimizations and a bit of polishing.
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If it isn't worth it to you, you shouldn't pay for it. It's more than optimizations and polishing; there is new OS development to drive the next generation of Apple's systems, although they may be of less benefit to existing systems. But I would guess that most people agree with you, and that's why Apple is "tweaking" the UI. :(

I think in this time of recession it would be nice for Apple to deliver it as a free upgrade
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Apple probably thinks "What recession? Have you seen our profit numbers?"

but then how do they appease those who purchased Leopard? Why would Tiger users get to update and bypass the $129?
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Because they've missed out on using Leopard for 18 months? Is it any different than Panther users who bypassed Tiger and went straight to Leopard?
 
kaiwai said:
What the hell are you going on about?

10.6.0 = Windows 7 ( Windows 6.1)
10.5.0 = Windows Vista (Windows 6.0)

The .x on the end is the service pack itself, that is no different than Microsoft having 6.0.buildnumber instead of having 6.1.1

Good lord, stop spreading lies - its a pretty easy damn system; Apple has NEVER charged for service packs.

Apple's support policy maybe crap - but they've never charged for them in the literal manner in which the previous poster spoke of.
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Yes you are correct. Apple never charges for service packs.

Though windows 7 is not windows 6.1

The reason they use 6.0.xxxx in the build is cause many programs check the version number of the operating system and will not install if the number falls outside a specified range.
 
I hope with Snow Leopard Apple will finally fix their standard gamma issues for displays. It's time to stop with this non standard 1.8 gamma junk. We are having more and more trouble to deal with Apple color settings in photography and video. Apparently those in my professional field that work on Windows are having less issues with color than we are. This is not what Mac is supposed to be. Most photographers and video people including myself still favor using mac for work and I think Apple should always make sure those people are among the first to have their macs running properly.
 
chameleon said:
What mail.app problems are you referring to?

I'd like to be able to set the default color of a mail message, but beyond that I don't see any major issues day to day.

What are you seeing?
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I'd like to be able to send e-mail.
 
Plus One!

Plus One as we say here in the USA.
I should point out that Apple has a way of slipping up like this and it's not a new thing with them.
I know that once they realized that they were in competition with Sony Entertainment and not with computer companies the whole emphasis shifted away from Pro users to consumers. Watch out, we may be in for some disappointments yet.


princigalli said:
I hope with Snow Leopard Apple will finally fix their standard gamma issues for displays. It's time to stop with this non standard 1.8 gamma junk. We are having more and more trouble to deal with Apple color settings in photography and video. Apparently those in my professional field that work on Windows are having less issues with color than we are. This is not what Mac is supposed to be. Most photographers and video people including myself still favor using mac for work and I think Apple should always make sure those people are among the first to have their macs running properly.
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Peace said:
You do realize just because you can't send email doesn't mean there's a generalized bug in the O/S don't you ?
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You do realize that I have said no such thing.

The first code of debugging is :

[best Ballmer voice]

Duplicate,duplicate,duplicate.:)
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Actually, I thought it was determine where the problem by excluding contributing factors.

Use different rig to send and receive e-mail from the same network and with the same e-mail servers. OK.

Use the same computer that's having problems with Mail to send and receive e-mail using a different e-mail program. OK

Use Mail on offending computer to send and receive e-mail. Not OK. Mail just lingers in the Outbox.

What have we changed since it last worked? Not a damn thing, other than installing a point update from Apple. The offender is pinned down. Ask at Apple Discussions if others had the same problem. Thread gets deleted and account suspended. Conclusion: Apple is aware of the problem but they don't know into which bucket of ***** the stepped to cause it and have no idea how to fix it either.
 
princigalli said:
I hope with Snow Leopard Apple will finally fix their standard gamma issues for displays. It's time to stop with this non standard 1.8 gamma junk. We are having more and more trouble to deal with Apple color settings in photography and video. Apparently those in my professional field that work on Windows are having less issues with color than we are. This is not what Mac is supposed to be. Most photographers and video people including myself still favor using mac for work and I think Apple should always make sure those people are among the first to have their macs running properly.
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I read that Snow Leopard have the 2.2 gamma.
 
dr_lha said:
No, 10.x.x are not service packs. The simple fact is that OS X has its own release/price structure. Trying to translate it into the way Microsoft does Windows releases is meaningless.
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Meh. I'd argue that it needs to be put into terms Windows users can understand. Maybe this:

10.X = New OS
10.X.X = OS Update

In the Mac Universe, we really deal with three OS structures.

X (i.e., OSX) is more like a general theme.
X.X (i.e., 10.5) is an update to that theme + New Features.
X.X.X (i.e., 10.5.6) is added stability, bug fixes to that new theme

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Just a rule of thumb and not mac cannon. :)

I'd say a point update is more like a service pack....
 
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