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New Snow Leopard Build (10A261) Seeded to Developers
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Yeh! A Mac OS X topic. My favourite Apple product.
Just like the developer previews of Mac OS X all hinted at what was to come with Aqua...
I so no reason why Apple can't or won't do a “tada” with the UI. Whether it will come this release remains to be seen.
If they are making under the hood changes to facilitate this change, then it's unlikely those who have dug and investigated will blab (NDA). Apple has plenty of internal users at Cupertino to test software should they wish to release builds without any UI changes.
Nail. Hammer. Bang. Bang. Bang.
Finder works different. Explorer's not that great anyway and in Vista and Windows 7 it added features all of which had been in OS X earlier (Smart Folders, Preview Panes).
Sure features are “missing” from the Finder (cut, tree view) bit then features are “missing” from Explorer (column view, quicklook). They are about even and which you prefer is personal preference. Making Finder like Windows Explorer is pointless.
Maybe. But it's called Snow Leopard.
“We're calling our next release Snow Leopard”.
The announcement didn't make it sound like a codename.
Relax. In hand.
Snow Leopard to see HFS+ compression, default gamma switch
Compare the look and feel for iLife '09 + iWork '09 suite to Windows 7.
Understated, subtle, and beautiful, vs overstated, in-your-face and all a bit too much.
All Windows 7 does is build on Aero, which borrows heavily from the Aqua look and feel.
Just like the developer previews of Mac OS X all hinted at what was to come with Aqua...
I so no reason why Apple can't or won't do a “tada” with the UI. Whether it will come this release remains to be seen.
If they are making under the hood changes to facilitate this change, then it's unlikely those who have dug and investigated will blab (NDA). Apple has plenty of internal users at Cupertino to test software should they wish to release builds without any UI changes.
Nail. Hammer. Bang. Bang. Bang.
i really hope they improve finder... something like "explorer" for windows would be nice... tabs would also work.....
Finder works different. Explorer's not that great anyway and in Vista and Windows 7 it added features all of which had been in OS X earlier (Smart Folders, Preview Panes).
Sure features are “missing” from the Finder (cut, tree view) bit then features are “missing” from Explorer (column view, quicklook). They are about even and which you prefer is personal preference. Making Finder like Windows Explorer is pointless.
Maybe. But it's called Snow Leopard.
“We're calling our next release Snow Leopard”.
The announcement didn't make it sound like a codename.
Relax. In hand.
Snow Leopard to see HFS+ compression, default gamma switch
Compare the look and feel for iLife '09 + iWork '09 suite to Windows 7.
Understated, subtle, and beautiful, vs overstated, in-your-face and all a bit too much.
All Windows 7 does is build on Aero, which borrows heavily from the Aqua look and feel.
Just on that article, it says:
Only an option in previous editions of Mac OS X? Has this author never ran the Display Calibration wizard in System Preferences?
But it is nice to see Snow Leopard using 2.2 gamma as the default - that is what I always set my display to.
Apple is not one to update for the sake of updating. Or "because windows is doing it"
I do, however, see them changing it just enough that one can easily tell at a glance if you are using Leopard or Snow Leopard. It is in their interests to do so, since the whole driving force of Apple in general is the whole "you're only cool if you have the latest and greatest" mentality. So, it won't be huge or anything, but I have a feeling it will be enough to notice...
Do you really actually believe this?
The whole driving force of Apple is to make great products. Some of the time they excel at making very great products indeed: OS X is a good example of a great Apple product.
Of course their current products are going to be the one's the focus on.
True. Now that Windows 7 will drop all the Live applications, it's even worse than before. No big deal though. Mediocre (aka Movie) Maker, Photo Gallery and Media Player are terrible and cannot be compared with iMovie, iPhoto and QuickTime respectively.
Even the name is similar
GUIthoughts
if they update it i'm sure it will be last minuite change to surprise us and stop leaks of at the minuite would look the same as leopard...could be a clever leak strategy! test the OS but don't give much away to the public
if they update it i'm sure it will be last minuite change to surprise us and stop leaks of at the minuite would look the same as leopard...could be a clever leak strategy! test the OS but don't give much away to the public
Nope, not really. From interviews or presentations I have seen by Apple staff I get the impression are really passionate about what they do. Same applies to many other sucessful companies. If this isn't the case then there is probably a problem.
Concrete example: If you use Mac OS X on a laptop you may have seen the warning from software update along the lines of:
“It is recommended you have your laptop connected to a power cord before installing updates”.
The moment the Magsafe cord snaps safely in to place… the dialog dismisses itself automatically and the software starts installing.
Someone has to think of that. The feature has to be specced out, approved, programmed and tested. It's clever, simple, user focussed.
And a company solely out to make a quick buck wouldn't bother for the sake of one more button press for the end user to dismiss the dialog.
But to Apple things like that matter.
for all of you saying that you won't get snow leopard because it doesn't have more features here is a little parallel
lets say you love bmw's you have been driving them since you were 15 and wouldn't think of driving anything else in 2004 bmw says we have something new we redesigned our bumpers so to be hip you get a new car (money is not an issue to you) in 2005 they say we redesigned our dashboard you do the same thing in 2006 they say we redesigned the bucket seats they are now extremely comfortable in 2007 they say we redesigned our hood look and again you buy it 2008 brings you a redesigned trunk and then comes 2009 bmw announces that the car that you drive now has 50 more horsepower and a brand new transmission with six gears instead of five amazingly instead of 13 mpg this car now gets 23 but you decide to skip this car when your friend asks you why you say "it looks the same as my old car"
ya right
sound farmiliar anyone?
lets say you love bmw's you have been driving them since you were 15 and wouldn't think of driving anything else in 2004 bmw says we have something new we redesigned our bumpers so to be hip you get a new car (money is not an issue to you) in 2005 they say we redesigned our dashboard you do the same thing in 2006 they say we redesigned the bucket seats they are now extremely comfortable in 2007 they say we redesigned our hood look and again you buy it 2008 brings you a redesigned trunk and then comes 2009 bmw announces that the car that you drive now has 50 more horsepower and a brand new transmission with six gears instead of five amazingly instead of 13 mpg this car now gets 23 but you decide to skip this car when your friend asks you why you say "it looks the same as my old car"
ya right
sound farmiliar anyone?
Good example. Is there a way to turn that off? I always get that, and it's really annoying.
Apple's "whole driving force," as you put it, is to make money. Period. Their current computer line does not consist of "great products." They're OK, but way short of what they could be, due to all the compromises that have been made (not to mention the priority Apple puts on iPhones and iPods).
Snow Leopard will have more new features than Leopard did. People seem to be obsessed with counting things in numbers these days, from new features to Ghz, all of which are meaningless.
Just a taste of the new features:
Grand Central
Open CL
Hybrid SLI Support
Hybrid SLY Support
ZFS, Whole New File System, been needed for a long time
Quicktime X
Completely 64bit Kernel
Microsoft Exchange Support (dont underestimate this)
Push Notification Service
Cut down application sizes, faster running native apps
and so many other things.
I would love to have it. I need my Mac to be much more stable like it was when I had Tiger. Is there a way to get it?
Wow, thats good to know. I didn't know Mail took up that much space. I would also like to see maybe an OS that didn't require as much time to boot up. For some reason, Tiger seemed to boot up much faster than Leopard now does.
Wow, thats good to know. I didn't know Mail took up that much space. I would also like to see maybe an OS that didn't require as much time to boot up. For some reason, Tiger seemed to boot up much faster than Leopard now does.
This goes without saying. It is the aim of any business, how you achieve that is what is important.
Let's startup a business with the goal to make money.
Now, that only leaves us with a couple of small questions, like:
What are we going to sell?
How are we going to sell it?
Where are we going to sell it?
Who are we going to sell it to?
etc.
I said Apple's driving force was to make great products, I didn't say they were always successful in achieving this goal.
If you want a comparison: Microsoft's goal was “Windows everywhere!” i.e. to get their software on as many devices as possible and get as many people as possible exposed to their software. They were very successful in achieving this goal, but it's a different sort of goal, there is no quality requirement.
Actually I had a situation just yesterday where I couldn't find something in the system files and the inability to search for it wasted a bunch of my time. I had to dig around manually in the end - and this was just trying to run a software update to something installed on a secondary drive.
At the very least, they should allow a preference that turns on searches of the system folders.
I hate that too. Haven't these guys heard of PREFERENCES?
I was talking about the Beta. Microsoft always releases their beta versions to the public for free, why cant Apple?
A little too much. I'm a computer techie @ an elementary school. Last summer we pretty much overhauled the whole wireless network and did some work on the wired one, too. And then when school started again, the teachers thought that we hadn't done anything because there weren't any big, grandiose, catchy changes. To the common person, they don't understand all the under-the-hood/infrastructure changes. They expect if something changes, it'll be a big, showy change. And that really pi**es people off like me who can understand how big & important the infrastructure is.
That's a common misconception and a wrong one.
Those app sizes are only smaller because they only contain english and not the many other languages - once the final versions ship with all languages back in they will be about as big as before.
You can get your apps that small now on 10.5 if you strip out the other languages.
well there is a setting to search the system folders.
You initiate a search, press the criteria button (Kind is selected by default) select other and add "System Files".
Then anytime you want to search for system files you just select them in the criteria and set to include
Thats not true, have you actually tried using the developer version? all the languages are there, you get a choice to have them removed though if you like, and its going to be the same for all native apps, you'll also get an option to have power pc or intel only installs to remove excess code which is currently an issue.