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New Time Capsules Rather Than Apple's Servers to Act as Hub for iCloud Data Syncing?
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They have the datacenter and the old mobileme did most the service without new hardware on my part. not being funny, i don't want to have to buy any new hardware to use iCloud whatsoever, so if that's going to be the case, then it's another reason why i won't get it.
I don't know if it's obviuos or not, but since no one knows what it is even if they have few weeks before public release no one will hurry with their apps. Real testing for this only can be done by having actual service running and that is unknow so far.
In other words it's not a matter of life and death here.
ah sorry.. might have misunderstood me. My point was that iCloud would be a development of Mobileme as a default option. For those that want to have a local copy of their data as well, and stream to their stereo/TV etc then they can use son of Time Capsule.
I've managed to get my readyNAS working with Time Machine but my AV equipment (Freeview HD recorder and BluRay player) will only play MP3. I'm therefore interested in what they come up with. Don't really want to re-do my itunes library but if the cost is massive then I may have to
i don't get why all local devices, like apple tv, can't access the same stuff from iCloud if you choose to, rather than having to turn on a computer. rather than using a time capsule, which you'd really expect to already be able to do home sharing in some form already.
That notion is in line with what my sources are telling me.
According to them, the NC data center is a dupe server center for all Apple online (the website, the store, the itunes stores, 'mobile me') to handle part of the load and reduce time outs etc
According to them, the various software is being set up so that the Time Capsule will hold a copy of your contacts, calendars etc and if your device is one your own home network it will draw from that via wifi instead of from the bigger cloud.
The actual TC hardware is being revamped with better hard drives and power units to make them more stable. With the eye to eventually even go SSD when the prices are right.
According to my boys that's what the whole $20-25 a year for media streaming fee is all about. Licensing fee to the labels etc so they will allow you to stream things not bought through itunes.
And it's not the TC that would need the update, it's the Apple TV, which will likely happen sooner rather than later (updating the TC to cover streaming to a tv would eat into the Apple TV and thus ain't gonna happen)
They have it. It's called an Airport.
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am sure they can/could... but some people (me included) want an integrated backup and streaming solution and want some independence from a cloud-based service. Would be annoying if broadband connection went down (as it does every now and again) and I couldn't access my own music etc.
I do have some hoem sharing set up - my Logitech Squeezebox thing connects to my NAS copy of iTunes which I also use as a backup but I have been disappointed so far with the capability of streaming devices so far
Could they not bring out an additional device somewhere between the two? If I'm going to have to buy an ATV as well as a TC then I won't bother. The ATV only has one HDMI port as I understand. So currently, you have to buy two devices to stream different parts of your iTunes library to TV and stereo - at least that's how I understand it.
Sure they COULD. They COULD do anything they want. But in the end this is about $$$$$$. So why would they make a Time Capsule that can be an Apple TV when they can get you to buy both. Along with an ATV for each of your 4 televisions.
My point was that if they want hardware-based iCloud stuff to take off, they need an official solution that doesn't cost $299, and preferably, <$100. Otherwise it's DOA.
I could see Apple heavily discounting the thing if you buy it with a subscription to iCloud.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
In another thread, there was much discussion about how since this new TC is rumored to be built upon the same A4/A5 hardware platform, and if it is going to be able to be the central storage of all iTunes media, why not just add an HDMI and digital optical audio port to make it a new
TV too? If you think about the software as just "apps", the TV software would just be another app running on this platform.Those with more than 1 TV could still buy an updated current version of the
TV without all of the TC/AEBS functions.Personally, I really like the idea of Apple adding on the 2 ports. I could store my replacement TC/
TV hybrid near the TV as easily as where I store the AEBS now. But, I don't expect it to happen. If not, yes, if someone wants to centrally store their iTunes library on this rumored device AND stream from that to their HDTV, they would need both this replacement TC and an TV.But rather than fret much about it, it might be a good idea to just wait until tomorrow and see what we get. With the news that the A5 can output 1080p and the current gen of
TV still capped at 720p, the TV is also due for an update. My guts say that won't be tomorrow (a hardware makeover that is) but I would expect it in the usual event this Fall.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
The subscription to iCloud is rumored to be only $25. $25 in total is not much of a discount... certainly not "heavy".
And I'd gladly pay several hundred dollars just for a great (simple) central iTunes server done as a "it just works" solution. Not everyone sweats prices like $299.
If this thing is some kind of Apple smooth iTunes central server, it can be a bargain just for that ONE feature at several hundred dollars. If it's also got other Macs & iDevice fluid sync services, just those features are probably worth more than Mobileme service. If it's also a pogoplug (personal cloud) like device, pogoplug sells just that benefit for $100. Etc. It will also probably be a quality router and a quality Time Machine device that doesn't have to be kept right next to your computer (like an attached drive rquires).
This thing could be a bunch of valued features & benefits rolled into one box. Sure, it would sell better at lower prices, but the above is a lot of value even at current TC pricing. I'll hope with you for a surprisingly low price, but I generally expect it to NOT be priced in the
TV range.It was my impression that the $25 was for iTunes streaming, not all of iCloud...but we'll see tomorrow!
Except I, and (I expect) many others, won't bother thanks. We'll just wait for others to make their devices better. In any case, I won't be buying an ATV at all for a while. Both HDMI sockets on my 3.5 year old TV are in use and I'm not going to buy another TV for a while.
I'd love an iOS app that would allow me to administer all of our Airport devices right from the iPad and receive notifications should a problem arise.
Is it too late to make that request, Mr. Forstall?
Is it too late to make that request, Mr. Forstall?
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I suspect iTunes streaming plus an evolved version of Mobile me is almost all of the iCloud offering to be revealed tomorrow. I think the rest of iCloud will be priced for storage for those that want to upload more than some included storage limit. I'll be very surprised if there is much more to it than access your media anywhere you are, sync all your files to one place and access them from any of your connected devices, some kind of time machine extension (truly off site) and maybe a digital locker where you pay for each block of GBs to store more than some maximum they include for $25.
I'll hope for more than that, but I suspect that's probably it (not that that isn't quite a lot for only $25/yr).
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Or a receiver for (probably) higher quality sound to go with the picture on that TV, and then do your HDMI switching there (just one cable from the receiver to the TV).
I may do but as the ATV doesnt do what I want it to (yet) then I'll just wait and see what happens. I'm primarily looking for a music streaming solution, and have a couple of options in mind, but if Apple were to bring out an integrated solution, then that would potentially go to the top of the list.
Yes probably a solution I'd prefer although my old Marantz should be fine for a few years yet. I've bought enough toys already...