What did they advertise when you got your unlimited plan years ago? What did they advertise when you signed the contract for the unlimited plan? What did they advertise when you signed that contract knowing tethering was not an option? Interesting how people find a half dozen ways to abuse/break contracts, but when the carrier stays within the contract but executes a clause in it, they are the abusers. Very interesting perspective...
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New Verizon iPad Runs on AT&T 3G Networks with AT&T Micro-SIM
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What did they advertise when you got your unlimited plan years ago? What did they advertise when you signed the contract for the unlimited plan? What did they advertise when you signed that contract knowing tethering was not an option? Interesting how people find a half dozen ways to abuse/break contracts, but when the carrier stays within the contract but executes a clause in it, they are the abusers. Very interesting perspective...
Was this aimed at me?
Design, development, test, deployment and product management for both the handset set and the infrastructure side.
Not Walmart - or a TMobile store, LOL.
Not everyone who posts on here is a newb.
And the AT&T model works with Verizon too...no?
Yep, and T-Mobile and Walmart Mobile and Virgin Mobile. If you tape a fork to the back antennae, you can even get reception from mexico... save lots of money... hahha.
Jesus! Do you work at ATT or are you just a paid PR rep? Every post is in defense of ATT and complaining about the 'bad customers'
Give it up already!
Sounds like retail to me. LOL ;-) No company has the same people working on the "handset set" and the infrastructure. That's always been the case; they're two entirely different groups, and is what causes so much pain between handsets and network.
And any company that has one role doing all that must be really really small, or just BS. Are you that company that made those little antennae boosters they sold for $0.99 and stuck on your battery and claimed it enhanced your signal, back in the late 90s??? LOL LOL LOL!
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I say he's an AT&T employee. LOL. Apple has fanboys drinking their kool-aid right out of the faucet (I might be a little guilty), but there's no such thing as an "AT&T Fanboy" except employees, haha. I know several AT&T employees who use Verizon or Sprint... that says alot since their employee lines are free, hahahaha.
*RAH RAH RAH, AT&T RAH RAH RAH!* LOL, I can't even say it without laughing.
try googling "AT&T APN SETTINGS" you'll be amazed what you can find if you actually make an attempt.
It is not simply enabling it on the baseband, there are extra parts that need to be added per band.
Merging the devices means a more complex board layout and installing parts that you know will almost never be used. (that's both expensive and time consuming)
The problem is that there are technical limitations of the 9600 chipset that prevents them from having 3 LTE bands + CDMA/EVDO all enabled (along with GSM,EDGE,HSPA...).
It was a technical reason for the segmentation. There's no way they'd complicate their supply chain and add multiple SKUs to the supply just to please the carriers.
This isn't really a surprise. Since the iPad isn't subsidized, there is no SIM lock on it. The only reason there is an 'at&t' and 'Verizon' version is to support the correct CDMA and now LTE networks, since at&t and Verizon are not interoperable.
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MDM9600 isn't the problem, look towards RF
So far as I've been able to discern, the issue isn't with the MDM9600, the issue is with the RF chip, the RTR8600. The 9600 can handle all the frequencies, but the RTR8600 doesn't have enough channels for all of them. The chip is multi-band, but has a limitation whereby only so many low freq bands can be used at once. I'm guessing CDMA throws an either/or wrench into the works. Apparently you can use multiple RF chips, but Apple obviously chose not to go that route.
The iPhone 4S uses a RTR8605, not sure what the difference with it is, and it obviously is handling Spring voice freqs but no LTE bands.
But it gets better! Qualcomm announced the WTR1605 in February; it is an RF chip that does not suffer (apparently) from the limitations of the RTR8600. Can't find enough info on it either, to make a determination why Apple didn't use it. Availability perhaps.
Finally, a year ago Steve Jobs mocked LTE handsets, saying Apple wouldn't use LTE because the battery life was poor, etc. The chips in use in the iPad (3rd generation) are the same chips that were available then.
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Oh, and I find that HIGHLY dubious. Apple is making money from that segmentation, just as the carriers are. I think it foolish to think that the World's Most Valuable Company is still playing from the playbook of two hippies in parent's garage. The lack of competition in the US mobile marketplace has created a highly profitable situation, and Apple is now smackdab in the middle of it making money hand-over-fist.
So far as I've been able to discern, the issue isn't with the MDM9600, the issue is with the RF chip, the RTR8600. The 9600 can handle all the frequencies, but the RTR8600 doesn't have enough channels for all of them. The chip is multi-band, but has a limitation whereby only so many low freq bands can be used at once. I'm guessing CDMA throws an either/or wrench into the works. Apparently you can use multiple RF chips, but Apple obviously chose not to go that route.
The iPhone 4S uses a RTR8605, not sure what the difference with it is, and it obviously is handling Spring voice freqs but no LTE bands.
But it gets better! Qualcomm announced the WTR1605 in February; it is an RF chip that does not suffer (apparently) from the limitations of the RTR8600. Can't find enough info on it either, to make a determination why Apple didn't use it. Availability perhaps.
Finally, a year ago Steve Jobs mocked LTE handsets, saying Apple wouldn't use LTE because the battery life was poor, etc. The chips in use in the iPad (3rd generation) are the same chips that were available then.
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Oh, and I find that HIGHLY dubious. Apple is making money from that segmentation, just as the carriers are. I think it foolish to think that the World's Most Valuable Company is still playing from the playbook of two hippies in parent's garage. The lack of competition in the US mobile marketplace has created a highly profitable situation, and Apple is now smackdab in the middle of it making money hand-over-fist.
It appears that the LTE battery life was likely solved with a higher capacity battery.
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What about tmobile or a H20 sim card
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What about tmobile or a H20 sim card
ANY GSM SIM worldwide should work unless the carrier prevents you and I don't know if H20 will allow it. They are an MVNO and not an independent carrier.
yay!!!
I just replicated this
New iPad (ipad3) verizon
I threw in my Straight talk micro-sim (ST is same as AT&T)
and have the AT&T 4g, I am in Austin Texas
5.3Mbps DL
1.6Mbps up
I just replicated this
New iPad (ipad3) verizon
I threw in my Straight talk micro-sim (ST is same as AT&T)
and have the AT&T 4g, I am in Austin Texas
5.3Mbps DL
1.6Mbps up
T-Mo will only work with EDGE because of the frequencies used, and the iPad doesn't support the AWS bands.
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How exactly would Apple benefit from having multiple SKUs? They've been the most efficient with keeping the supply chain and products as simple as possible. Seems to go against their design.
I pulled the AT&T Sim card out of my iPad 2 and inserted into my Verizon iPad 3 and when I went to the account page to see if I was able to purchase AT&T service I got an error that said the device was not recognized or was not compatible. It showed AT&T in the corner but it would not allow me to purchase a months worth of service. I'm not sure what the fix would be for that. Maybe it has something to do with setting the APN number like you have to do with the iPhone when you want to insert its Sim card into your iPad.