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New Video Provides Extensive Hands-on Look at New 16-inch MacBook Pro [Updated]

X--X said:
It makes no sense to compare the MAX thickness of the new Macbook Pro, since the max thickness number on the previous one only applied to the middle center bottom of the notebook, which you never see.

If you look at the notebook on a table while using or while carrying it around it's actually almost double the thickness.

What people actually see when looking at the device is how they will judge it.. in the stores and anywhere else.

I love that they put some ports back in and have no problem with making it thicker, but I think they should have kept the tapered edges.


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Except the min thickness is only the outer 0.5" or so. I actually do not care for the tapered design of the old one. Most of the old one is 0.64" thick. So what if it is 0.5" at the very edge? Part of the increased thickness is the lid which needed to get thicker to support a 1080p camera.
 
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neuropsychguy said:
They can’t because they do not exist (at least widely produced laptops). Check out the ThinkPad P15 dimensions: 1.24 x 14.7 x 9.9 inches and weighs 6.32 pounds.

The Dell XPS 15 is thicker too: 0.71 x 13.6 x 9.1 inches. It weighs 4.3 pounds.

ThinkPad X1 Extreme: 0.7 by 14.1 by 10 inches and 4 pounds.

MacBook Pro: 0.66 x 14.01 x 9.77 inches

Weight (M1 Pro): 4.7 pounds (2.1 kg)

Weight (M1 Max): 4.8 pounds (2.2 kg)

It’s heavier than some but will have better performance, solid build quality (the ThinkPads are generally great and the XPS is fine), and more. It will run cooler and quieter (I’ve used the Dell XPS extensively and have read the X1 reviews).
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Again this crowd is part of the “lifestyle brand” generation of buyers. They want a fashion accessory not a work tool.

Any of use who actually work know that compared to the exact same ones I’d mention aside from Zbooks which are just as large know why Apple has done is well within the ballpark and are more upset about the lack of ECC than heft lol.
 
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The first few sentences translated from Vietnamese:

“wow it’s so thick…I can’t get my hand around it enough to pick it up…good lord it’s so thick…wow it’s so chunky and thick…I don’t care it’s the best laptop ever made…it’s so thick how will I impress all my laptop buddies when we all get together for our laptop fashion shows?”
 
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It looks really THICK compared to previous generations. Though I completely understand as its function over form. It be neat to see how it compares to the M1 MacBook Air.
 
calstanford said:
I am sorry. That's just my personal opinion. But I really don't find it good looking. In fact I find Apple really lazy. Now I am not saying: oh change the design every two years like some cheap Windows laptop. But geez. My Powerbook G4 looked exactly the same (except for the keyboard). And that was 15+ years ago. It's also gotten quite thick and big. Irrelevant when used as a pseudo-desktop. But for people who actually take it out every day, I honestly find it too big and too thick compared the 15 and 16"ers of yesteryear.
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I am not trying to argue with your personal preferences, but I also have a really hard time believing that a couple millimeters of thickness makes a meaningful difference in terms of how portable the machine is, by contrast there is a absolutely huge difference between a machine that thermal throttles and one that doesn't. I think people are really forgetting that these are NOT M1 chips; they are substantially more powerful and while I don't know their actual TDP, it seems that Apple designed this case with them in mind. I have no doubt that we will see an updated MacBook Air that trades some of that thermal headroom for thinness; that may well be the right machine for you.
 
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bobtem said:
Like a lotta folk saying, kinda beefy. I thought the new M-class chips were very thermal efficient, which you think would mean less bulk needed for fans and cooling? For someone who actually carries around a laptop, as opposed to using as a desktop, this looks look a lot of weight to carry.
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Is anyone commenting on the size actually looking at the specs?

It weights .1-.2 lbs more than the prior 16" model. The rest of the dimensions are going to be hard to even notice without a measuring tool. And if that's too much "bulk" another nice thing about this line is that the 14" models are actually Pro laptops for the first time... maybe ever. Certainly the first time since machines marketed as MacBook Pros have been made. The 13" Pro machines have always been underpowered and overpriced.

While M-class chips are power and thermal efficient, they still produce heat and when actual pros are doing actual pro work, these machines still need fans. It'll just be nice to do work without the machine having to throttle down all the time.
 
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UBS28 said:
If thinness is your top priority, Apple got other mobile computers to sell you.
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If a few ounces in weight and a couple of millimetres added to the dimensions are deal-breakers for you, you aren’t the professional this laptop is aimed at. The fashionista hysteria in this thread is almost nauseating.

In the real world, I note the ship dates for new orders keep receding. Almost as if demand is exceeding supply.
 
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hexcalibur said:
If a few ounces in weight and a couple of millimetres added to the dimensions are deal-breakers for you, you aren’t the professional this laptop is aimed at. The fashionista hysteria in this thread is almost nauseating.

In the real world, I note the ship dates for new orders keep receding. Almost as if demand is exceeding supply.
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Yeah, I am happy Apple didn’t listen to these people. The DongleBook Pro was a big mistake.

I don’t like the notch, but I ordered the M1 Max 16“ anyway, because they did everything else right this year.
 
JetLaw said:
I am not trying to argue with your personal preferences, but I also have a really hard time believing that a couple millimeters of thickness makes a meaningful difference in terms of how portable the machine is, by contrast there is a absolutely huge difference between a machine that thermal throttles and one that doesn't. I think people are really forgetting that these are NOT M1 chips; they are substantially more powerful and while I don't know their actual TDP, it seems that Apple designed this case with them in mind. I have no doubt that we will see an updated MacBook Air that trades some of that thermal headroom for thinness; that may well be the right machine for you.
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M1 Pro 30 Watts, M1 Max 60 watts.
 
flapflapflap said:
Including the HDMI port was a mistake. They‘ve forced the very few Pros who actually need this port to carry a dongle. Now the majority of pros will suffer by losing another TB port and having to look at this thick, clunky monstrosity. And if you’re going to bring back the HDMI port, give us the latest! Truly, this beast of a machine is intended for Pros who could care less about design.
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Realistically its a good decision. What do you use HDMI for. I mosty for connecting the projector and TV. 4K at 60hz is way more than enough. And I constantly was missing the dongle and the projector never had USB C. So its great decision. You don't need 2.1. If you wanna push crazy resolution use Thunderbolt
 
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My 2019 i9 got to be serviced after the MB died. I rented one bc I was in the middle of an edit. The rental, i9 as well, started displaying glitches from what was apperently overheating. I kept my AC at full max dropping the temperature from 25 to 18ºC. Gosh, I had even to wear gloves, hat and a jumper to work. That was running Avid, OBS and Chrome… nothing more. If I asked the computer to change the output resolution to a brighter one, it would throttle to 1.8 GHz, making it unusable. If I dropped the AC to a normal 21ºC, it would throttle as well to 1.8-2 GHz.

If I wanted to use the computer runnnig evercast (OBS + Chrome) and Avid, mind you using normal proxies at 1080P, I always need to turn my AC at max.

That’s all with the computer fully blasting the fans at around 6k rpm.

Sorry, I would take any second an inch more of thickness… this 2019 design is a complete failure… like the trashcan was. What about the touchbar? The hub maddening cabling confusion?

If you think it’s thick. just buy the Air.
 
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cult hero said:
Is anyone commenting on the size actually looking at the specs?

It weights .1-.2 lbs more than the prior 16" model. The rest of the dimensions are going to be hard to even notice without a measuring tool. And if that's too much "bulk" another nice thing about this line is that the 14" models are actually Pro laptops for the first time... maybe ever. Certainly the first time since machines marketed as MacBook Pros have been made. The 13" Pro machines have always been underpowered and overpriced.

While M-class chips are power and thermal efficient, they still produce heat and when actual pros are doing actual pro work, these machines still need fans. It'll just be nice to do work without the machine having to throttle down all the time.
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That's incorrect.

2008 Macbook Pro 15" = 5.4 pounds
2008 Macbook Pro 17" = 6.8 pounds
2019 16" Macbook Pro = 4.3 pounds
2021 16" Macbook M1 Pro = 4.7 pounds
2021 16" Macbook Pro M1 Max = 4.8 pounds
 
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Mac_tech said:
They had to make it thicker to add ports, where else would they put the ports? Just saying.
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It's not ports. Previous (perceived-to-be) thinner MBpros had these resurrected ports.

The best answer to all "Thick" comments is to show the measurements. Numbers don't lie. But looking at pictures, one can easily be fooled.

Is that Elvis testing a new MBpro? ;)
 
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They had to make it thicker to add ports, where else would they put the ports? Just saying.
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I don't think it's thicker because of the ports. It's not like they've added USB-A back. It's probably due to the keyboard which (hopefully) has increased key travel and the larger battery. The display is also thicker due to it being XDR and capable of reaching 1600 nits. Overall, it's not really considerably thicker than the 2019 16'' but less tapered.
 
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macpot said:
I like how the notch is invisible on full screen, would be same with a black menu bar.

But damn, that keyboard is ugly.
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I'm not a fan of the notch, but one benefit of the black area around the keyboard is that there's slightly less light reflection in a dark room.
 
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