New Video Shows Closer Look at Purported 4.7-Inch iPhone 6 Front Panel

[HobeSoundDarryl]

I'm sorry can you tell me which thread "the other thread from today " is? I'm genuinely curious to see the flip flop...a link to the other thread please.

Yes fixed that in my post with the link to both threads. Sorry.

 

[Trapezoid]

Yes fixed that in my post with the link to both threads. Sorry.

Thank you. A little different than what you claimed happens but I see where you're going.

But for clarity, originally he said he'll never buy apple again if it happens and then he said they will sell well (and he never said he'd be buying it). so it's a little different than you implied that hes foaming at the mouth saying "bestttt iPhone ever!!"

All in all though it was a good effort and at least you tried unlike the people who post that same drivel all the time and refuse to provide any evidence. If we see that guy in a couple months talking about how great it is then yes, he flip flopped. right now, no he hasnt, by your example.

 

[DakotaGuy]

My Droid MAXX has a 5" screen and it's not too big at all. In fact I am very interested in moving up to the LG G3 once it is released. It's interesting to note that many here want Apple to stay with just a 4" screen, but I bet when the time comes they will be waiting in line for the 4.7" iPhone and it will be the "perfect" size.

For those of you who have never moved away from the tiny 3.5" or even 4" iPhones don't knock a larger screen until you try it. There is no way I could go back to something that small. In my opinion, Apple must release larger iPhones or they will watch their marketshare erode over the next year or two.

 

[ssl0408]

I was really hoping for more of a widescreen display. They seem to just keep stretching the phone out and for me it just looks silly.

 

[Technarchy]

I was really hoping for more of a widescreen display. They seem to just keep stretching the phone out and for me it just looks silly.

It's a 16:9 aspect ratio screen... Just like every other phone these days

 

[dec.]

You're all a bunch of hypocrites, boohoo

Ok, so besides potentially having a few hypocrites (what you'd might call them) on this board - what exactly is your point, except for mumbling "macrumors people = stupid!"?

Congratulations on finally finding one example of a "flip flopper", I can name at least three posters who failed to do so in the past after blabbering about "ample evidence for tons of flip floppers"... Although I don't find the example THAT great since he also posted this

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=19312493#post19312493

He hasn't said if he'll still buy Apple products or not. And afaik, 4.7 inches isn't necessarily a "Phablet" by definition. But anyway, at least you tried where those other posters have miserably failed before with all sorts of bizarre explanations.

 

[D.T.]

Thank you. A little different than what you claimed happens but I see where you're going.

The funny thing is: there’s way more finger pointing about people reversing their opinion, than actual cases of it. MR posts “Apple does this/that/other” that’s a change from a previous stance (stylus, display size, whatever...), and the “flip-flop police” are usually the first ones to comment, in droves, and spend a _huge_ amount of cycles pointing it out. It makes me chuckle.

 

[DakotaGuy]

Do people really think a 4" phone is still big?

I see lots of "must be able to use one handed or I don't buy" comments yet I can use my Nexus 5 with one hand in regards to internet/text use perfectly fine and I don't even have large hands.

Never known a phone to cause such uproar about when the rest of the world have been using larger sized phones for 2-3 years now with no problems whatsoever....

A lot of people who believe a phone must be easily used with one hand believe it because it is what Apple has told us all along. They have stated in the past they will not build a phone that can't be easily used with one hand no matter the hand size. Now it looks like Apple is changing their mind. Once Apple changes their mind and builds a bigger phone the whole opinion will change. Just wait and see.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Thank you. A little different than what you claimed happens but I see where you're going.

But for clarity, originally he said he'll never buy apple again if it happens and then he said they will sell well (and he never said he'd be buying it). so it's a little different than you implied that hes foaming at the mouth saying "bestttt iPhone ever!!"

All in all though it was a good effort and at least you tried unlike the people who post that same drivel all the time and refuse to provide any evidence. If we see that guy in a couple months talking about how great it is then yes, he flip flopped. right now, no he hasnt, by your example.

Sorry, I also referenced other searches anyone could do if they wanted to take the time where they would find much more blatant flip flops. Yes, that wasn't a perfect example but was just readily available in one of today's posts. But if one took the time, they could find plenty of direct flips- especially on this particular topic of phone screen sizes.

That guy flipped from Apple is doomed to Apple is going to sell tons of them. We can't get "foaming at the mouth best iPhone ever" flips for iPhone 6 until Apple rolls them out. So stand by, wait for that launch and then see for yourself. All this "one handed use" and "need new pants pocket" stuff will just vanish.

Or just do your own research by looking back at the isight-less iPad 1 threads vs. FaceTime iPad 2 or "720p is good enough" vs. TV 3 launch threads and so on. Even the shift from the perfection of 3.5" to 4" had a great deal of negative bashing about the 4" before it launched, flipping to "I'm already in line" and "shut up and take my money" when Apple rolled it out… giving way to "Best iPhone ever" as soon as they could be possessed.

And per post #82, the flip flopping opinions of just going with whatever Apple rolls out or says makes me chuckle.

 

[jafingi]

It looks like the home button is curving with the edge, or is very close to the start of the curve. Think it would look a bit awkward if the curve and home button are clashing together. But let's see when the final product arrives.

 

[DakotaGuy]

Even the shift from the perfection of 3.5" to 4" had a great deal of negative bashing about the 4" before it launching flipping to "I'm already in line" and "shut up and take my money" when Apple rolled it out… giving way to "Best iPhone ever" as soon as they could be possessed.

Oh yes many of the people who would NEVER buy an iPhone with a screen larger then 3.5" because Steve said it was the perfect size are now carrying 4" iPhones. Don't worry they will also buy a 4.7" iPhone or be left with using a year old phone. Apple will probably still offer the 5c or 5s at a lower price point so if you can't handle a larger screen you can still get one with the small screen.

 

[TechViking]

I think it's sapphire. This panel is larger, but thinner. A larger panel is more fragile, so how come Apple made it thinner? A new material, most likely the rumored sapphire.

Someone should ask them to try and scratch the cover (with a key or similar). If they are NOT able to scratch it we will know two things:

1) The front cover is made of sapphire.

2) The front cover in their possesion IS the genuine iphone 6 front cover. Since noone would/could make a fake front cover with sapphire in it.

If it is scratchable on the other hand, you cant draw a conclusion whether or not the real iphone 6 front cover will have sapphire.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Ok, so besides potentially having a few hypocrites (what you'd might call them) on this board - what exactly is your point, except for mumbling "macrumors people = stupid!"?

I didn't say anything about "= stupid". But putting words in someone else's mouth to rally the troops is a classic tactic employed when someone doesn't like a post but can't actually fault what is actually posted. I wouldn't come here and bother communicating with others if I thought they were stupid. Instead, I think there are some very smart people here with good thoughts and who make great contributions to such discussions.

I also think it's pretty poor on your part to use the quote function but then write something into the quote as if I wrote it when I wrote no such thing. That's abusing the fundamental function of what a discussion forum like this is about.

The POINT of the post is that all this whining about "one handed use", "need new pants pockets" and so on will just evaporate as soon as Apple actually rolls out these bigger phones. If Apple drops the "one handed use" bullet in the marketing spin, so shall the bulk of this crowd. And the new bullets Apple spins in support of bigger screens will become the new arguments against phones by the other guys <4.7" and >5.5". Just wait and see it play out (again).

 

[Serban]

We already have thinners panels with gorilla..so no point to claim based on that.
There are phone with gorilla a lot thinner than this

 

[Kobayagi]

Actually, here's how it goes:

1. Whining up until launch (but softening whines as rumors pile up suggesting the change is going to happen)
2. Apple rolls out 4.7" and 5.5" (dropping the one-handed use from the marketing spin)
3. "Shut up and take my money" and "best iPhone ever"
4. Since there will likely be a 4.7" and a 5.5", cue 1000 new threads with titles similar to "which one should I buy?" all of which is best answered with "whichever one is best for you" but will instead by filled with answers of which is deemed best by those who post answers (as if what is best for them is absolutely the one best choice for the OP).

These pre-launch gripes of one-handed use and pants pocket concerns will mostly evaporate as soon as Apple rolls it out. The transitions will be quick: "No way I'm buying" to "It's kind of growing on me" to "Wait & see one in person" to "Best iPhone ever" to "How did we ever get by with those puny screens?" and then, about 2 years later, "Apple invented the bigger-screened smart phone". Then someone shows evidence that others were there first, about 10 of "us" call that someone a "troll", more evidence is shown, so "we" try to change the subject to something that is positive and Apple irrefutable like "but which single smart phone model is most profitable?" Same sequence of events over and over.

It reminds me of the wave of griping before the 4" became the new perfect. Post after post in thread after thread about the "abomination" of screens bigger than the perfection of 3.5" and the fragmentation of different screen resolutions, how Apple would never fragment, etc. As the rumors of the 4" piled up, there were Android phone bashes about aspect ratio, how Apple would never change the aspect ratio, etc. Then, as rumors of 4", resolution change and aspect ratio change piled up, all that transitioned toward the hedge of "wait & see", "it's kind of growing on me" before Apple rolled out the 4" and then all that griping evaporated.

Why wasn't the 4" with a different resolution and different aspect ratio an abomination? "stupid"? Etc. Because as soon as Apple endorses the new perfect, it is the new perfect. The old arsenal of arguments against (say the abominations of big screen smart phones) ceases to be used and the new arsenal of marketing spin Apple offers becomes the foundational points of arguments why 4.7" and/or 5.5" is now the perfect sizes of smart phone screens. Some might reference back to their pre-launch positions: "I didn't think I'd like the bigger screens at all but wow, it's so much better…" but most will just ignore their pre-launch stance as if they never said a word against the new perfect.

Here we go again- same scenario with some differing gripes. If people actually feel this way, they should feel the same AFTER Apple rolls out these bigger phones. There should be dozens of bashing threads putting down Apple's iPhone 6, the massive problems of not having new pants with sufficiently-sized pockets and on and on. But it won't happen. If there was a flip flopper button here, it would be hilarious to be able to easily match post-launch gushing praise with pre-launch bashes by many of these same people.

Good post, just shows how fake many Apple users are. Just stick to your opinion and dare to be critical towards Apple, don't follow them like a sheep praising every one of their moves.

 

[mac.cali]

If this is the 4.7" screen, I don't think I will be going for 5.5". Any bigger will probably make it harder to operate single handed.

 

[SmalTek]

Someone should ask them to try and scratch the cover (with a key or similar). If they are NOT able to scratch it we will know two things:

1) The front cover is made of sapphire.

2) The front cover in their possesion IS the genuine iphone 6 front cover. Since noone would/could make a fake front cover with sapphire in it.

If it is scratchable on the other hand, you cant draw a conclusion whether or not the real iphone 6 front cover will have sapphire.

Even if it's a prototype that represents the final size and thickness, it looks like the final panel will be sapphire, because it's significantly thinner than the current panel. Much larger but thinner - how come? Must be a new material, much stronger than the old one.

 

[Steve121178]

If this is the 4.7" screen, I don't think I will be going for 5.5". Any bigger will probably make it harder to operate single handed.

Apple are going to have to work very hard to get my money again this year. I'm not spending £600-£700 just to gain a slightly bigger screen.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Good post, just shows how fake many Apple users are. Just stick to your opinion and dare to be critical towards Apple, don't follow them like a sheep praising every one of their moves.

Thank you but I wouldn't say "fake". Instead, I would use overwhelmingly brand loyal to even shift their own opinions based on what a corporation says. Harsher variations would use the "kool-aid" or "fanboy" references but even those are probably dominated by people who just think Apple is so wonderful- even magical- that whatever Apple says must be right. If Apple takes a stance like "why would anyone want video on an iPod?" it makes no sense to have video on an iPod. Then, Apple flips by rolling out an iPod with video and "we" roll right with them.

I think Apple has done such an amazing job of building brand loyalty that the so-called RDF actually works for many. In topics like this one, if one has spent the last months or years bashing phone screens bigger than 3.5" or 4", their opinion should not change- or easily change- when Apple rolls out screens bigger than 4". But there's the conflict: Apple is always right vs. what Apple has deemed as "perfect" up to now. To resolve that conflict requires one of those to give. The obvious one to give is the current "perfect" because the new "perfect" is going to roll out anyway and "we" want to buy whatever new that Apple is selling.

Personally, I find the individual shifting of opinions to go with whatever Apple says funny. But I can also appreciate it from the impressive brand loyalty point of view. How many other companies can easily tell consumers what they should like or not like through new product launches and have many go right with them? How many other companies can take a stand (like "720p is good enough" when their set-top box could only output 720p) when the majority of everything else had embraced 1080p and have their customers posting passionate arguments in support of the company stance on a private forum like this one? Then, when Apple rolls out the 1080p-capable model, all that mass of argument against 1080p and for 720p just ceases as if it never happened. Same with no iSight in iPad 1 vs. FaceTime in iPad 2. Same with 3.5" perfection vs. 4" perfection in iPhone generations. And so on.

 

[mmikuta]

How About a Comparison to the S5 and G3

What would really be nice if someone did something different like posting the iPhone 6 mock against the S5 and G3 faces. I am a huge Apple fan and hate so say it but the S5 and especially G3 look to already have this design covered. Very thin bezel, much less space wasted top and bottom on both of those phones. Unfortunately the rounded edges on the mock ups also appear to take away from the thinner design, function over form however.

 

[zipa]

Even if it's a prototype that represents the final size and thickness, it looks like the final panel will be sapphire, because it's significantly thinner than the current panel. Much larger but thinner - how come? Must be a new material, much stronger than the old one.

Sapphire would be the opposite of stronger in this case. It is considerably more brittle than gorilla glass, so it needs to be a lot thicker in order to withstand the same knocks and bumps without breaking.

 

[jrswizzle]

Everything indicates we won't have that choice, unless we also want twelve month old hardware with a year's less software support :-(

This new size looks such an unusable mess.

Considering there's no app on the appstore that utilizes the 5S to it's full potential, my guess is it will still be a highly viable phone for the next two years. At which time one would presumably be able to use a subsidized upgrade for the iPhone 7.

How about, instead of assuming you know exactly how this design will turn out, you wait until its released, try it out and base your decision on actual data.

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Good post, just shows how fake many Apple users are. Just stick to your opinion and dare to be critical towards Apple, don't follow them like a sheep praising every one of their moves.

Ignoring the obvious trolls among the people who take part in what you quoted (because it definitely does happen exactly the way it was described there), perhaps some us change our minds?

I know....I know....its a radical concept. But maybe, just maybe, its ok for someone to say "I'm not too sure about a larger screen - I'm really comfortable with what I have." Only to take the time to try it out and realize "This really isn't bad at all - the added real estate really helps and I can still use it one-handed."

There's nothing "sheepish" about that. For once, let's be deliberate about who we lump together as Apple "sheep". My mom is extremely skeptical of a larger iPhone - she really likes the size of her 5. But she'll likely upgrade and get used to it. There's nothing "sheepish" about that - its simply human nature to oppose something you aren't familiar with only to warm up to it the more comfortable you become.

As for me, I've used plenty of "larger" Android phones and am very much looking forward to the 4.7" version. I like the 4" - the size works really well, but I also don't think the 4.7" is unwieldy and would welcome the added display size.

The 5.5" however.....I'm not too sure about.

 

[JaySoul]

LG G3 and the HTC One M8 look ugly because there is no symmetry to the design. They both have big chins on the handset. In the case of the HTC One the actual usable part of the screen is about 2 inches up from the bottom. Its bad enough they gave it a big chin but then to extend it even more by having onscreen buttons is ridiculous.

Apple is all about design and looks of the product. If they need to shrink a bezel on either side then the same will have to be done on the opposite end. They could shrink the bezel if they made the shape of the home button a rectangle, similar to that found on galaxy phones. Then they could also shrink the top part with the earpiece.

There is nothing more annoying than having an off centre display on a phone.

People adapt very quickly to what makes sense.

If that extra bezel space is holding extra chips, battery, speakers etc then that's fine. It probably will.

But if you're saying the G3 and One look ugly?? Well, you're clearly wrong.

 

[zipa]

There is nothing more annoying than having an off centre display on a phone.

I've had basically nothing but those for my whole life, but I've never found it the least bit inconvenient. I can't think of any reason why it would be?

 

[Serban]

Even if it's a prototype that represents the final size and thickness, it looks like the final panel will be sapphire, because it's significantly thinner than the current panel. Much larger but thinner - how come? Must be a new material, much stronger than the old one.

we have a lot thinners than this panels around the world and they are still gorilla glass.