we have a lot thinners than this panels around the world and they are still gorilla glass.
I hope to learn if the drop rate increases for iPhones. I would expect a lot of shuffling the phone up and down the palm of one's hand in order to reach the extremes of the screen.
I'll still buy one. Maybe three.
If this is the 4.7" screen, I don't think I will be going for 5.5". Any bigger will probably make it harder to operate single handed.
So we take the leaked images, make a video about the exact same part, showing exacty the same as the images, and it deserves a new thread?
lol
Thank you but I wouldn't say "fake". Instead, I would use overwhelmingly brand loyal to even shift their own opinions based on what a corporation says. Harsher variations would use the "kool-aid" or "fanboy" references but even those are probably dominated by people who just think Apple is so wonderful- even magical- that whatever Apple says must be right.
Ignoring the obvious trolls among the people who take part in what you quoted (because it definitely does happen exactly the way it was described there), perhaps some us change our minds?
I know....I know....its a radical concept. But maybe, just maybe, its ok for someone to say "I'm not too sure about a larger screen - I'm really comfortable with what I have." Only to take the time to try it out and realize "This really isn't bad at all - the added real estate really helps and I can still use it one-handed."
There's nothing "sheepish" about that. For once, let's be deliberate about who we lump together as Apple "sheep". My mom is extremely skeptical of a larger iPhone - she really likes the size of her 5. But she'll likely upgrade and get used to it. There's nothing "sheepish" about that - its simply human nature to oppose something you aren't familiar with only to warm up to it the more comfortable you become.
As for me, I've used plenty of "larger" Android phones and am very much looking forward to the 4.7" version. I like the 4" - the size works really well, but I also don't think the 4.7" is unwieldy and would welcome the added display size.
The 5.5" however.....I'm not too sure about.
Do people really think a 4" phone is still big?
I see lots of "must be able to use one handed or I don't buy" comments yet I can use my Nexus 5 with one hand in regards to internet/text use perfectly fine and I don't even have large hands.
Never known a phone to cause such uproar about when the rest of the world have been using larger sized phones for 2-3 years now with no problems whatsoever....
It reminds me of the wave of griping before the 4" became the new perfect. Post after post in thread after thread about the "abomination" of screens bigger than the perfection of 3.5" and the fragmentation of different screen resolutions, how Apple would never fragment, etc. As the rumors of the 4" piled up, there were Android phone bashes about aspect ratio, how Apple would never change the aspect ratio, etc. Then, as rumors of 4", resolution change and aspect ratio change piled up, all that transitioned toward the hedge of "wait & see", "it's kind of growing on me" before Apple rolled out the 4" and then all that griping evaporated.
Considering there's no app on the appstore that utilizes the 5S to it's full potential, my guess is it will still be a highly viable phone for the next two years.
At which time one would presumably be able to use a subsidized upgrade for the iPhone 7.
How about, instead of assuming you know exactly how this design will turn out, you wait until its released, try it out and base your decision on actual data.
The ROI on an iPhone isn't good enough on two years - I usually operate on a four year cycle, two years for me and two years for my wife. A 5S wouldn't deliver that, and so isn't worth it.
I already have actual data - the 5 is already too big to comfortably use in practice, having had one for two years. What magical bit of design is going to give me longer thumbs? I carry round other phones for development, and I have a Nexus 5 - it's too big to use comfortably, just as the Nexus 4 was before it.
Only for those with gorilla-sized hands. Single-handed isn't comfortable or accurate enough even on the iPhone 5.
The curved edges may help with the size, a little.... Very little.
How do you figure ROI? I was able to sell my 5 after 1 year of use for more than 75% of its original TOTAL cost. And I paid the subsidized cost.
After 2 years, its fairly easy to sell an iPhone for the subsidized cost - meaning you could essentially upgrade every two years without paying out of pocket.
Again - would love to see how you calculate ROI.
No worries - like I said, the 5S will work for a long time to come.
I don't know what other better 4" options are out there. Android devices in that size range are almost always gimped compared to their larger counterparts.
Also - the 5 is much smaller than the Nexus 4....
It depends on what you're wanting to accomplish with one hand.
Ironically enough, while other companies (such as Samsung) mock Apple 'sheep', the truth is that most companies would love to have the brand loyalty that Apple does. They mock it because it suits their advertising needs (tell their customers that they're 'superior' to those other consumers) but if they had it, they'd love it.
For the record, the 4" iPhone was still an enormous cockup and I would go back to 3.5 inches in a heartbeat if I could get one with modern hardware and a good camera.
Still no real sign of the 5.5" panel makes me think it might have been an intentional "leak" by Apple…..
If I sold the phone after two years I wouldn't be able to give the handset to my wife for an additional two years, and then I'd have to buy her a phone too. Which would destroy the ROI. I need an iPhone to have a four year effective lifespan to justify the cost.
Well, it won't. It'll continue to work well for another twelve months, then passably for 12 months after that, and then quite badly after that. It is extremely constrained in RAM and future iOS versions will probably bump across that quite badly.
There aren't any, but I don't care for iOS particularly so if Apple can't offer me a size advantage I'll probably abandon the platform entirely.
I know. My point was that I have tried a wide variety of screen sizes in every day use and have more than enough data to know that a 4.7 inch screen is not usable comfortably for me under any circumstances.
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IMO the single most important gestures to be able to accomplish one handed on the iPhone are one tap scrolling to the top of the page and selecting the Safari URL bar to enter a new address. Those are doable one handed now, they won't be going forward.
Also, a 4.7 screen will be too wide to type comfortably on one handed.
Ok, so besides potentially having a few hypocrites (what you'd might call them) on this board - what exactly is your point, except for mumbling "macrumors people = stupid!"?
Congratulations on finally finding one example of a "flip flopper", I can name at least three posters who failed to do so in the past after blabbering about "ample evidence for tons of flip floppers"... Although I don't find the example THAT great since he also posted this
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=19312493#post19312493
He hasn't said if he'll still buy Apple products or not. And afaik, 4.7 inches isn't necessarily a "Phablet" by definition. But anyway, at least you tried where those other posters have miserably failed before with all sorts of bizarre explanations.
The funny thing is: theres way more finger pointing about people reversing their opinion, than actual cases of it. MR posts Apple does this/that/other thats a change from a previous stance (stylus, display size, whatever...), and the flip-flop police are usually the first ones to comment, in droves, and spend a _huge_ amount of cycles pointing it out. It makes me chuckle.![]()
Sorry, I also referenced other searches anyone could do if they wanted to take the time where they would find much more blatant flip flops. Yes, that wasn't a perfect example but was just readily available in one of today's posts. But if one took the time, they could find plenty of direct flips- especially on this particular topic of phone screen sizes.
That guy flipped from Apple is doomed to Apple is going to sell tons of them. We can't get "foaming at the mouth best iPhone ever" flips for iPhone 6 until Apple rolls them out. So stand by, wait for that launch and then see for yourself. All this "one handed use" and "need new pants pocket" stuff will just vanish.
Or just do your own research by looking back at the isight-less iPad 1 threads vs. FaceTime iPad 2 or "720p is good enough" vs.TV 3 launch threads and so on. Even the shift from the perfection of 3.5" to 4" had a great deal of negative bashing about the 4" before it launched, flipping to "I'm already in line" and "shut up and take my money" when Apple rolled it out giving way to "Best iPhone ever" as soon as they could be possessed.
And per post #82, the flip flopping opinions of just going with whatever Apple rolls out or says makes me chuckle.
I didn't say anything about "= stupid". But putting words in someone else's mouth to rally the troops is a classic tactic employed when someone doesn't like a post but can't actually fault what is actually posted. I wouldn't come here and bother communicating with others if I thought they were stupid. Instead, I think there are some very smart people here with good thoughts and who make great contributions to such discussions.
I also think it's pretty poor on your part to use the quote function but then write something into the quote as if I wrote it when I wrote no such thing. That's abusing the fundamental function of what a discussion forum like this is about.
The POINT of the post is that all this whining about "one handed use", "need new pants pockets" and so on will just evaporate as soon as Apple actually rolls out these bigger phones. If Apple drops the "one handed use" bullet in the marketing spin, so shall the bulk of this crowd. And the new bullets Apple spins in support of bigger screens will become the new arguments against phones by the other guys <4.7" and >5.5". Just wait and see it play out (again).
Thank you but I wouldn't say "fake". Instead, I would use overwhelmingly brand loyal to even shift their own opinions based on what a corporation says. Harsher variations would use the "kool-aid" or "fanboy" references but even those are probably dominated by people who just think Apple is so wonderful- even magical- that whatever Apple says must be right. If Apple takes a stance like "why would anyone want video on an iPod?" it makes no sense to have video on an iPod. Then, Apple flips by rolling out an iPod with video and "we" roll right with them.
I think Apple has done such an amazing job of building brand loyalty that the so-called RDF actually works for many. In topics like this one, if one has spent the last months or years bashing phone screens bigger than 3.5" or 4", their opinion should not change- or easily change- when Apple rolls out screens bigger than 4". But there's the conflict: Apple is always right vs. what Apple has deemed as "perfect" up to now. To resolve that conflict requires one of those to give. The obvious one to give is the current "perfect" because the new "perfect" is going to roll out anyway and "we" want to buy whatever new that Apple is selling.
Personally, I find the individual shifting of opinions to go with whatever Apple says funny. But I can also appreciate it from the impressive brand loyalty point of view. How many other companies can easily tell consumers what they should like or not like through new product launches and have many go right with them? How many other companies can take a stand (like "720p is good enough" when their set-top box could only output 720p) when the majority of everything else had embraced 1080p and have their customers posting passionate arguments in support of the company stance on a private forum like this one? Then, when Apple rolls out the 1080p-capable model, all that mass of argument against 1080p and for 720p just ceases as if it never happened. Same with no iSight in iPad 1 vs. FaceTime in iPad 2. Same with 3.5" perfection vs. 4" perfection in iPhone generations. And so on.
Thank you but I wouldn't say "fake". Instead, I would use overwhelmingly brand loyal to even shift their own opinions based on what a corporation says. Harsher variations would use the "kool-aid" or "fanboy" references but even those are probably dominated by people who just think Apple is so wonderful- even magical- that whatever Apple says must be right. If Apple takes a stance like "why would anyone want video on an iPod?" it makes no sense to have video on an iPod. Then, Apple flips by rolling out an iPod with video and "we" roll right with them.
I think Apple has done such an amazing job of building brand loyalty that the so-called RDF actually works for many. In topics like this one, if one has spent the last months or years bashing phone screens bigger than 3.5" or 4", their opinion should not change- or easily change- when Apple rolls out screens bigger than 4". But there's the conflict: Apple is always right vs. what Apple has deemed as "perfect" up to now. To resolve that conflict requires one of those to give. The obvious one to give is the current "perfect" because the new "perfect" is going to roll out anyway and "we" want to buy whatever new that Apple is selling.
Personally, I find the individual shifting of opinions to go with whatever Apple says funny. But I can also appreciate it from the impressive brand loyalty point of view. How many other companies can easily tell consumers what they should like or not like through new product launches and have many go right with them? How many other companies can take a stand (like "720p is good enough" when their set-top box could only output 720p) when the majority of everything else had embraced 1080p and have their customers posting passionate arguments in support of the company stance on a private forum like this one? Then, when Apple rolls out the 1080p-capable model, all that mass of argument against 1080p and for 720p just ceases as if it never happened. Same with no iSight in iPad 1 vs. FaceTime in iPad 2. Same with 3.5" perfection vs. 4" perfection in iPhone generations. And so on.
Haha, yeah exactly. People accept their **** because it's Apple and their users are still happy when not receiving the latest tech. Like you said, Apple is still pulling the same trick with not adding the latest stuff so they can do it in the next update and amaze people then.
YouTube: video
Always reminds of me this, watch from the 1:01 mark. So funny, yet so true.
Same thing happened with the iPad Air not receiving touch ID, now they can ''revolutionize'' the Air again when they add touch ID.
Anyways, the reason I personally like Apple is for Mac OS and the beautiful MacBook Air. The iPhone stuff is much less appealing to me since they nickel and dime they customers so hard on that one. Asking huge prices for storage increases and instead of reducing the base price, they also reduce the storage making the phone (5c in this example) much less usable.
People adapt very quickly to what makes sense.
If that extra bezel space is holding extra chips, battery, speakers etc then that's fine. It probably will.
But if you're saying the G3 and One look ugly?? Well, you're clearly wrong.
I've had basically nothing but those for my whole life, but I've never found it the least bit inconvenient. I can't think of any reason why it would be?