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New Video Shows Off Alleged iPhone 7 Design With No Headphone Jack
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You need to educate yourself instead of spouting off and regurgitating what you've heard and want to hear.
Amazing how many on here don't understand digital vrs analogue. You are not removing anything....
No need to shout! Besides - your "E" key seems to be stuck ...I LIKE IT A LOT!
NEED IT IN BLACK OR DEEP BLUE PLEASEEEEEEE!
I know this is difficult for you to understand, but headphone will always be analogue, you are removing nothing but moving it.
Educate yourself Before posting more nonsense . And as you are struggling, let me help you, "DAC" the old crap tech you carry on about still needs to exist in the "chain"
Make no mistake, it is up to Apple. What they say goes in the smartphone world. And it is their desire to have a Home Button, and volume controls.
WHY no headphone jack? I'd love to know Apple's thinking behind this incredibly stupid move - and please don't tell me it's to help waterproofing. It just makes no sense.
LOL, yes that's exactly right. Except some people think the argument is about removing the DAC, and that the DAC/amp chipset is the same size as the headphone port hardware. Instead, the relatively tiny amp & DAC are not being removed, but Apple is free to use less expensive, lower quality ones; while a relatively large component, the headphone jack is being removed to free up space for any number of other additions or improvements (including a rumored 14% larger battery), without making the iPhone any heavier or larger, to keep it competitive with the market at large.
It'e pretty simple, but people are grasping at straws because they own an old pair of expensive, Bose noise-cancelling headphones and creating straw men to debate rather than the actual issues.
Interesting ... I think I get your point in the sense that a speaker is an analogue device or maybe better yet it produces an analog "sound" (well I guess all sounds we hear are analogue). So I think when people talk about analogue versus digital I believe it's suppose to mean the type of source recording, not the physical playback device creating the sound.
Those are a lot of 'if'-s - net-net it means I can't use my Bose QC's on launch date of iPhone 7 - for no added functionality or quality I need to spend say an extra 30 bucks to do something I could do before.
It is driven by Apple wanting to push Beats - I can't wait for the 'this device is not supported' messages when you will plug in a third party headphone.
Won't that just be great ... another nail in the coffin of open standards brought to you by the so-called loving, caring, champion of diversity, protector of human rights ... Apple
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One big issue with this. Any lightning adaptor will require power for the DAC, so it's one more thing for the one USB port of the MacBook.
There was a rumor at one point that the iPhone 7 would come with regular 3.5mm EarPods and an adaptor. That makes more sense than straight-up Lightning-only headphones. There has to be a hump somewhere in the cable to put the DAC, and the audio going out the other side of that hump will be analog, you might as well let the user disconnect into 3.5mm at that hump to plug into every other device ever made, including Macs.
But there are already rumors that the mechanical homebutton and silent switch will disappear.
Not necessarily. Lightning is a smart connector, and there is a small amount of power being generated by the headphone jack. It's possible that the Lightning plug can sense when being used with a Licensed analogue adapter, and the DAC & amp could be bypassed, passing through the analogue signal as is from the 3.5mm jack to the headphones. This would in fact be the easiest, cheapest, and simplest form of adapter, and avoid the ridiculous situation of converting a digital signal to analogue, and then back to digital, only to then be converted back to analogue again. This is how digital headphones currently behave, when optional cables are offered, so I would expect Lightning to follow suit. Or, the adapter itself could include a small rechargeable battery that lasts for a month, or longer per charge, in either case.
While I realize that for anyone who intends to use their old headphones with the new iPhone, an adapter in the box makes sense. However, doing so doesn't make sense for Apple, or the fledgling digital audio market, as it will be wasted on many who won't use it, and it only encourages people to continue using their old equipment, with the potential to also suggest Apple made a mistake. And, if that happens, then there will be no demand driving the digital audio revolution. By including the Lightning earbuds, not only does it give customers immediate exposure to digital audio, but it also gives them pause to consider other options before deciding on buying an adapter to continue using their old wired headphones. For that reason, I see that as the last resort.
What I do see happening, is Apple including a 3.5mm-to-Lightning adapter in the box so that customers with older Apple products can use their new Lightning headphones with them. Once Apple adds Lightning ports to all of their Macs, then I see that becoming an optional purchase as well.
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Exactly. Straw men by uninformed people.
The most insane conversation to have in the tech community. People acting like it's a religion instead of tech.
Nothing else going on so why not. Apple will tell us that a high resolution screen isn't needed until the iPhone gets one. Apple will tell us that fast charging isn't needed until the iPhone gets it. Apple will tell us the phone is .01mm thinner and that's all that counts. Hey Apple, instead of a phone 0.01mm thinner, how about doing something about the ridiculous chin and forehead on the iPhone. You know, the same problem most other major OEMs have managed to solve.
So they can add it back in to the new design iPhone (7s or 8?) and have all the bois exclaim what a revolutionary idea it is.
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The fact that I have a nice collection of wired analog headphones and would like to continue using them is not a strawman. I'd ask why so many are adamant that Apple removing choice in which headphones to use is a good thing?
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And a lot of folks had nice leather saddles, but that didn't stop Henry Ford. And it's a cellphone for gods sake. Don't you have nice gear to go with your fancy headphones?
Who obsesse over cellphone fancy headphones. And if you did, wouldn't you want a modern solution instead of of a ity 3.5 pos jack?
I honestly almost can't believe the support this horrible decision has received. It's INCONVENIENT. it really is that simple. It's a loss, for no real reason, of major convenience. Aux in cars. Headphones without charging. Charging and headphones separately. The list goes on and on. I don't want to use Bluetooth. Ever. I never have and I most likely never will. Millions upon millions also do not. This change is not needed. The list of cons far outweigh a small increase in battery life and phone thickness. What is wrong with you all?
I'm not denying iOS is a good thing, I'm just saying it would do them well to open it up a bit more for users
I have a feeling that Beats will release New headphones with the Lighting Connector at the same time as the iPhone 7.
Not obsessed, just think that removing the jack will be an inconvenience for many while not resulting in a better product. Don't care is something is more "modern", I want it to be better.
Can't really think of any advantage of wired Lightning headphones - moving from an open standard to proprietary, no longer uses the excellent iPhone DAC but now needs an external one in the headphones, requires a pricey dongle/adapter to use 99% of existing headphones, and still has the wire. I do see advantages for some with Bluetooth, but that's already available in current iPhones.