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For the moment yes, but as more iPhone users (as I once was) switch to windows mobiles (as I have now), iPad users might do the same (as I'm contemplating). As soon as other tablets become as thin and light as the iPad, it's then we'll see lost (Apple) sales!

II'm thinking that Android is best for phones, but that Win8 is best for tablets.
 
Well said. :) The guy is clearly a Microsoft hater with no valid arguments.

You haven't made a single valid argument as to why the xbox is better than ps4. Here are my arguments for why it's not:
1. You have to have kinect which is why it's so expensive
2. You can't borrow games or buy used games with no hassles and rentals won't work either.
3. You need an internet connection on all the time even when you don't need to be connected.
4. The two systems have the exact same specs: if anything ps4 has slightly better hardware
5. The design
As an aside, I think both ps4 and xbone are gonna be huge let downs and consoles are in danger of being phased out by the pc gaming market which has always been better but is now looking even 10 ten times better given what we're presented. If I end up getting one of them it would be ps4. And yes I am bashing Microsoft because I really don't get why they're doing all this to something they actually had good going on.

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II'm thinking that Android is best for phones, but that Win8 is best for tablets.
Win 8 functionality is great for tablets but its too much of a memory and performance hog to be viable for them right now.
 
Win 8 functionality is great for tablets but its too much of a memory and performance hog to be viable for them right now.

If by tablets you mean ARM powered devices with 1GB ram, then yeah, you're right. But if you're talking about a tablet as in the Surface Pro, then it's perfectly alright. Well, alright besides the UI, which needs some more work done to make the desktop a little more touch friendly.
 
If by tablets you mean ARM powered devices with 1GB ram, then yeah, you're right. But if you're talking about a tablet as in the Surface Pro, then it's perfectly alright. Well, alright besides the UI, which needs some more work done to make the desktop a little more touch friendly.
But the surface pro has one of the worst battery life of any tablet... Reviews say around 4 hrs.
 
But the surface pro has one of the worst battery life of any tablet... Reviews say around 4 hrs.

4-6 hours, which is about average for what it actually is: an Ultrabook.

Though I'll admit that even if it is an ultrabook in a tablet dress, the form factor does bring along some expectations. 4-6 hours isn't enough for what it is, which is why I wouldn't currently recommend the Pro to anyone wanting to use it for anything besides higher end content creation. Hopefully Haswell will change this.
 
You think they should add the SD card slot for free? Where would you put it? Take apart an iPad get some SD card slots and show us how you would integrate it.

Yes I do ... Why not ... Or do you enjoy paying more for every option! I'm quite sure the geniuses at Apple could easily add an SD slot; the only reason why it's not there now is because Apple want you paying more for higher memory models (whilst other manufacturers give you the option for free). If you don't agree then I'm sorry, it's too late for you, Apple already have your mind!!!

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I love your ability to copy and paste

I know, what an amazing time saving invention!
 
Rarely a more infantile tactic to sell product, do I ever see. Poor Microsoft - they're not that bad even, but this is just a joke, and it fell flat. This would make me want to buy an iPad even MORE, to find out what was "wrong" with it, and when I found out there was nothing wrong, I'd keep it. Fail, MS.
 
Who the **** wants to zoom in the home screen? It's all gimmicks except for the SD card. That's a legitimate feature that the iPad could use, and not for cameras but for upgrading the storage.

Personally I use a SD card with my Android tablet, but I can fully understand why Apple kept it out of the iPad. SD cards are great when they work, but they can easily act like little pricks as well... They're not all that reliable, which was a sacrifice that I was willing to make for cheap & convenient storage. But the average person probably won't understand that, and will get extremely pissed off with the iPad when the SD card isn't working properly, which will lead to bad press for the iPad (even though it's the SD card and not the iPad that's having problems).
 
All I was saying is it's not $100 per 16GB like the previous person said.

For $300 extra you actually end up with a 128GB iPad.

You are correct though... 1GB to 2GB is nothing... good thing Apple doesn't charge $100 for that!

Apple usually does the "$100 to double" pricing scheme. And sometimes it's more than doubling.

Remember when the iPod Touch used to start at $199 for 8GB... but for only $100 more you got 32GB?

You'd be silly not to pay the extra $100 to get 4 times the storage in that situation. And that's why Apple prices things like that.

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Oh, okay. I was not quite sure of the tone at first. Once you get that 64GB 128GB for the right price it does not sound too bad while only jumping another 16GB sounds far too costly. When I bought my first iPhone I did pay something like another $100 for 32GB because at the time memory costs where a bit different and in the end it was worth it.

And at the time paying $100 to go from 8GB to 32GB is liking something I would have done.
 
SD cards

A few years ago I had a WinMo phone that took an SD card. I have close to 1T of recorded TV shows/movies I've collected throughout the years. I loce the old Charlie Chan movies, Master Piece Mystery, etc.

At the time 8 gigs was the max SDs come in. I bought several for travel (I travel a lot) and switched them out to watch movies on the plane. The app automatically found the movies and presented me with the list for selection.

Can't do this with my iPad. And the CCK isn't much use. I would love an SD reader on my iPad. It's 64 gigs right now and is full. Frankly I'll be purchasing a Win8 tablet this year. The only thing that has kept me from buying a Surface is the lack of LTE.

While I love my iPad the new Win8 tablets just do more of what I need. Im tired of having to switch apps just to copy/paste my credit card info when i buy online. just having two apps side-by-side for that one use will be worth it.

And as for the comment about utilizing an SD would be confusing for consumers, give me a break! I used to do a lot of tech support for my users and some of them could barely turn on their computer but even they understood a file system. There is absolutely NO reason any tablet shouldn't have a user accessible 'User Documents' file. I can understand why Apple/MS might not like side-loaded apps or even allowing access to the sys files. But giving access to your own content so you can access/organize it is absolutely ridiculous.

So, most likely I'll be getting a Surface. The only question is do I get a Pro or an RT and I suspect I'll get a Pro. I think the second gen will give me everything I need in a tablet. I'll probably give my iPad to my grandkids. I've already given themmy iPad 1 and 2. We can donate the 1 to the local children's hospital.


Btw, I thought the ad was funny.
 
You're joking, right?
You are running a core i5 ivy bridge on a tablet.... You don't see the problem with that? The battery life suffers. 23 gigs of available space is taken for the os... These things need to be improved upon with better batteries, better performing processors, and bigger storage options. Haswell may be the first step to that. What's the problem with my statement? Is any of what I just said false? No, so why would I be joking.
 
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You are running a core i5 ivy bridge on a tablet.... You don't see the problem with that? The battery life suffers. 23 gigs of available space is taken for the os... These things need to be improved upon with better batteries, better performing processors, and bigger storage options. Haswell may be the first step to that. What's the problem with my statement? Is any of what I just said false? No, so why would I be joking.

Yes its true about the space, I have had people bitch at me and justify that when you get a 32GB Surface you only actually have around 15GB of space. When you get a 32GB iPad or iPhone or iPod Touch you get 28GB of space. I don't see how people could be arguing and fighting and try to justify the low space on a Windows device!
 
Yes its true about the space, I have had people bitch at me and justify that when you get a 32GB Surface you only actually have around 15GB of space. When you get a 32GB iPad or iPhone or iPod Touch you get 28GB of space. I don't see how people could be arguing and fighting and try to justify the low space on a Windows device!

Exactly, that's just with windows RT. Windows 8 pro takes up even more and ur still stuck with 64 and 128 gb... Too small for that type of os.
 
You are running a core i5 ivy bridge on a tablet.... You don't see the problem with that? The battery life suffers. 23 gigs of available space is taken for the os... These things need to be improved upon with better batteries, better performing processors, and bigger storage options. Haswell may be the first step to that. What's the problem with my statement? Is any of what I just said false? No, so why would I be joking.

I give up.
 
You are running a core i5 ivy bridge on a tablet.... You don't see the problem with that? The battery life suffers. 23 gigs of available space is taken for the os... These things need to be improved upon with better batteries, better performing processors, and bigger storage options. Haswell may be the first step to that. What's the problem with my statement? Is any of what I just said false? No, so why would I be joking.

You lie about Windows taking 23 GB of space. On my VMWare Windows 7 Professional machine, with Photoshop CS6, Visual Basic 2010, Firefox, etc, etc, it's taking up 14.5 GB. On a clean installation it's something like 7 - 8 GB, setting the page file to 200mb. Microsoft recommends 20 GB to install Windows (much less than your exaggerated 23GB), but that's so that the person could have enough space to add more things to it. My Windows 8 installation is taking up 11.7GB, and it also has programs installed.

So please, if you have any decency then you won't continue to mislead or lie.
 
With this ad, Microsoft has officially thrown in the towel on any pretensions of computer industry leadership.

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You lie about Windows taking 23 GB of space. On my VMWare Windows 7 Professional machine, with Photoshop CS6, Visual Basic 2010, Firefox, etc, etc, it's taking up 14.5 GB. On a clean installation it's something like 7 - 8 GB, setting the page file to 200mb. Microsoft recommends 20 GB to install Windows (much less than your exaggerated 23GB), but that's so that the person could have enough space to add more things to it. My Windows 8 installation is taking up 11.7GB, and it also has programs installed.

So please, if you have any decency then you won't continue to mislead or lie.

Oh, my goodness, the humanity! :rolleyes: Perhaps you should ask your doctor about electro-shock therapy. Your sense of proportion seems to need a radical realignment.
 
You lie about Windows taking 23 GB of space. On my VMWare Windows 7 Professional machine, with Photoshop CS6, Visual Basic 2010, Firefox, etc, etc, it's taking up 14.5 GB. On a clean installation it's something like 7 - 8 GB, setting the page file to 200mb. Microsoft recommends 20 GB to install Windows (much less than your exaggerated 23GB), but that's so that the person could have enough space to add more things to it. My Windows 8 installation is taking up 11.7GB, and it also has programs installed.

So please, if you have any decency then you won't continue to mislead or lie.
why are you comparing what you're using to the surface. Every device will format an os differently. Windows 8 takes up more than 40 gb on the surface. 20 is take by the os directly, The other 20 gbs is used as backup space. Here's proof. http://betanews.com/2013/01/30/microsoft-surface-pro-has-a-big-storage-problem/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...et-ship-TWO-THIRDS-storage-space-used-up.html
The 128 GB version of Surface Pro has 83 GB of free storage out of the box. The 64GB version of Surface Pro has 23GB of free storage out of the box.
Yet, people still continue to defend it... No need to act so butthurt about stuff you don't seem to be aware of. So no I'm not spreading lies. 20 gb disparity is indeed accurate. 23 and 20 are not as far off as u claim pal.
 
Yes I do ... Why not ... Or do you enjoy paying more for every option! I'm quite sure the geniuses at Apple could easily add an SD slot; the only reason why it's not there now is because Apple want you paying more for higher memory models (whilst other manufacturers give you the option for free). If you don't agree then I'm sorry, it's too late for you, Apple already have your mind!!!


No because they really do not make sense. SD Cards are just one more thing to keep up with. The smaller they get the harder it is to do so. Now you have to also keep up with an adapter to make your SD work in the tiny Micro port. It would make more sense to have a camera adapter that can access your camera directly. Now many cameras have wifi and iOS software so there is no need to connect it at all. The other manufactures do this in order to check a line on the list. If there were a great demand for it, Apple would have included it. They would know from all of the camera kits being sold. The space is better used as is and leave the option for those that want it.
 
The ad is what it is.

And it honestly doesn't bother me. It is funny if anything. From my perspective, get the device that best suits your needs.
 
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