New Windows Tablet Ad Again Uses Siri's Voice to Poke Fun at iPad

[Michael Scrip]

You lie about Windows taking 23 GB of space.

I found this... from Microsoft.com

How much storage space do I have?

Here’s how much storage you have available out of the box:

Surface RT
The 32 GB Surface RT has approximately 15 GB storage available for user content (17 GB used up by default)
The 64 GB Surface RT has approximately 45 GB storage available for user content (19 GB used up by default)

Surface Pro
The 64 GB Surface Pro has approximately 28 GB storage available for user content (36 GB used up by default)
The 128 GB Surface Pro has approximately 85 GB storage available for user content (43 GB used up by default)

 

[appleisking]

I found this... from Microsoft.com

How much storage space do I have?

Here’s how much storage you have available out of the box:

Surface RT
The 32 GB Surface RT has approximately 15 GB storage available for user content (17 GB used up by default)
The 64 GB Surface RT has approximately 45 GB storage available for user content (19 GB used up by default)

Surface Pro
The 64 GB Surface Pro has approximately 28 GB storage available for user content (36 GB used up by default)
The 128 GB Surface Pro has approximately 85 GB storage available for user content (43 GB used up by default)

What's sad is he's using windows 7 as an example (the guy ur replying to) when I'm clearly talking about windows 8

 

[Michael Scrip]

What's sad is he's using windows 7 as an example (the guy ur replying to) when I'm clearly talking about windows 8

Oh yeah! Good catch

 

[inlovewithi]

With this ad, Microsoft has officially thrown in the towel on any pretensions of computer industry leadership.

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Oh, my goodness, the humanity! Perhaps you should ask your doctor about electro-shock therapy. Your sense of proportion seems to need a radical realignment.

Electroshock therapy? Why, because I wrote how much my Windows installations are taking up? Perhaps the fact that it doesn't take up 23Gb is having an emotional effect on you that you got so affected with the rolled eyes, and attack and everything. Stop being so emotionally dependent on Apple, it's just a corporation.

 

[Michael Scrip]

Here's the Dell tablet in the commercial:

 

[inlovewithi]

why are you comparing what you're using to the surface. Every device will format an os differently. Windows 8 takes up more than 40 gb on the surface. 20 is take by the os directly, The other 20 gbs is used as backup space. Here's proof. http://betanews.com/2013/01/30/microsoft-surface-pro-has-a-big-storage-problem/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...et-ship-TWO-THIRDS-storage-space-used-up.html
The 128 GB version of Surface Pro has 83 GB of free storage out of the box. The 64GB version of Surface Pro has 23GB of free storage out of the box.
Yet, people still continue to defend it... No need to act so butthurt about stuff you don't seem to be aware of. So no I'm not spreading lies. 20 gb disparity is indeed accurate. 23 and 20 are not as far off as u claim pal.

I've done hundreds of installation and it doesn't magically have more or less space depending on the system. Its always roughly the same. That article is a little misleading because the space it's quoting also includes a recovering partition to recover Windows and it's programs, which can also be deleted. Also depending on how much ram the computer has, the hibernation file, which I remove, especially on an SSD is almost as much as the amount of ram the computer has, and so is the pagefile, which I set very low since I have so much ram. So the 23Gb that you're quoting for a Windows installation is very misleading, but I'm sure you don't have a problem with that.

 

[appleisking]

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I've done hundreds of installation and it doesn't magically have more or less space depending on the system. Its always roughly the same. That article is a little misleading because the space it's quoting also includes a recovering partition to recover Windows and it's programs, which can also be deleted. Also depending on how much ram the computer has, the hibernation file, which I remove, especially on an SSD is almost as much as the amount of ram the computer has, and so is the pagefile, which I set very low since I have so much ram. So the 23Gb that you're quoting for a Windows installation is very misleading, but I'm sure you don't have a problem with that.

It's not misleading. Delete the partition and that's still the amount you have left, 23 or 20 w/e big difference. Why should I have to go through all that just to get more space. They shouldn't take up 60% of ur available storage period. Also, you were using windows 7 as an example which is already a fail.

 

[inlovewithi]

Notice his signature clearly makes him less than fond of Apple

I bet to you my signature is the equivalent to me insulting somebody's religion. It still amazes me that I saved over $1,000 for essentially more powerful hardware.

 

[coolspot18]

Who the **** wants to zoom in the home screen? It's all gimmicks except for the SD card. That's a legitimate feature that the iPad could use, and not for cameras but for upgrading the storage.

Why not? So you don't have to flip through multiple screens. It's all about options!

But the iPad could REALLY use a SD card slow.

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Well there aren't many people like that left either.

Are you joking? Comments like these make Apple users look bad.

 

[inlovewithi]

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It's not misleading. Delete the partition and that's still the amount you have left, 23 or 20 w/e big difference. Why should I have to go through all that just to get more space. They shouldn't take up 60% of ur available storage period. Also, you were using windows 7 as an example which is already a fail.

It is misleading because you conveniently don't mention the reasons why it takes up more space and pass it off as Windows being bloated. And you also just showed me that you didn't even bother reading my whole post since I also mentioned that my Windows 8 with some programs installed took up, I believe 11.7 GB.

 

[coolspot18]

Cloud storage takes care of all that. People seem to forget the iPad does come with internal storage so you CAN actually store things on it

Too slow and data is too expensive.

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Camera Connection Kit: $29

People really need to learn how to think outside the box.

Why carry all these dongles around? Seems to defeat the streamlined nature of Apple design?

 

[donutbagel]

I bet to you my signature is the equivalent to me insulting somebody's religion. It still amazes me that I saved over $1,000 for essentially more powerful hardware.

"Apple free since August 2010"
Then why are you on an Apple news site? With that many posts...

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Cloud storage takes care of all that. People seem to forget the iPad does come with internal storage so you CAN actually store things on it

Cloud storage is a pain, especially when it doesn't work with your PC (Snow Leopard + iCloud).

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So the 23Gb that you're quoting for a Windows installation is very misleading, but I'm sure you don't have a problem with that.

Is Microsoft's information on the installation size also misleadingly high? They explicitly say how much space the OS will take. Even if you're talking about 16GB by somehow slimming it down more than 8GB after installation, that's ridiculous. Mavericks with its retina graphics and all uses less than 8GB.

 

[appleisking]

It is misleading because you conveniently don't mention the reasons why it takes up more space and pass it off as Windows being bloated. And you also just showed me that you didn't even bother reading my whole post since I also mentioned that my Windows 8 with some programs installed took up, I believe 11.7 GB.

All the reasons as to why it takes up all this space is due to the nuances of windows 8. The partitions, the pages, etc etc. You don't see ios, mac or android doing that do you?

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"Apple free since August 2010"
Then why are you on an Apple news site? With that many posts...

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Cloud storage is a pain, especially when it doesn't work with your PC (Snow Leopard + iCloud).

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Is Microsoft's information on the installation size also misleadingly high? Even if you're talking about 16GB by somehow slimming down the installation, that's ridiculous.

I do retract my original post about sd cards but i do want to point out that u can use drop box and google drive to sync with ur pc and ipad or w/e other tablet you use

 

[donutbagel]

I do retract my original post about sd cards but i do want to point out that u can use drop box and google drive to sync with ur pc and ipad or w/e other tablet you use

Yeah, but then you're using separate apps. I still think the SD card reader for cameras is useless to almost everyone because of iPhoto. You just sync it with your computer, and it's done. If you really, really need to take photos and put them on your iPad, there's the dongle. Not worth making everyone pay for it and have that nasty slot just for a few people who need it and could buy a peripheral.

 

[appleisking]

Yeah, but then you're using separate apps. I still think the SD card reader for cameras is useless to almost everyone because of iPhoto. You just sync it with your computer, and it's done. If you really, really need to take photos and put them on your iPad, there's the dongle.

Well I absolutely agree sd cards are not good for transport particular do to the microsd full size sd disparity but the majority of users would want it for expandable storage. That's the only real use left for it.

 

[donutbagel]

Well I absolutely agree sd cards are not good for transport particular do to the microsd full size sd disparity but the majority of users would want it for expandable storage. That's the only real use left for it.

Expandable storage sounds appealing. It would be great to have an iPod or iPad that you can upgrade whenever you want instead of being stuck with, say, a 32GB model that you thought was big enough before but becomes too small for you. Someone here who has an Android tablet that uses an SD card as its main internal storage said that it has big problems, but I've never tried it myself.

 

[inlovewithi]

"Apple free since August 2010"
Then why are you on an Apple news site? With that many posts...

That's .47 post perday since 2009 when I used to have a Mac.

I come here very little, only came today because I read an article about Apple making a video game controller and the drawings looked like SNES, PSX, etc controllers, and some people were joking around about Apple suing Nintendo in the future for having the same design. So I came to Macrumors assuming that the same story was up, and I wanted to see the opinion of some of the fanboys, to see them bash other video game companies because Apple was making a controller, and Apple is superior because it has the Apple logo. The typical Apple fanboy where they would put down every other company that might be in any competition with Apple.

 

[US Marine]

The level of butthurt from the fanboys in this thread is hilariously high. I love my iPad as much as the next guy (and I'm definitely not trading it for a Windows tablet any time soon), but some of you folks have a religious fanaticism about Apple that is pathetic. You absolutely refuse to admit any shortcomings in any Apple products whatsoever.

 

[AFDoc]

I think these commercials are funny as all get out and really LoL'd when I saw it for the first time. Still get a chuckle out of it each time I see it.... let's play chopsticks!

 

[Renzatic]

All the reasons as to why it takes up all this space is due to the nuances of windows 8. The partitions, the pages, etc etc. You don't see ios, mac or android doing that do you?

The partitions? I'll admit this was a dumb move by MS. It would've been far better for them to include the OS on a thumb drive with every Surface Pro. But the recovery partition itself isn't something that's required by Windows 8, so you can't really count as OS bloat. Rather it's a bone headed move.

The pages? You mean the swap file? I'm not sure if iOS or Android use virtual memory, but OSX sure does. Probably roughly the same amount as Windows. Same thing with the hibernation file.

By default, Windows 8 takes up around 13-14GB after install, OSX around 8-9. It is larger, sure. But that's because MS loves throwing everything and the kitchen sink at you. If you know what you're doing (and I mean, like, really know what you're doing), you can trim Windows down to around 6-7GB after install.

 

[twigman08]

I love Apple Products and love the iPad and I even lol'd at these commercials. Just like I lol'd at the Mac vs. PC Commercials. These are better than the Samsung commercials that attempt but fail to make fun of Apple products.

 

[makaveli559m]

You lie about Windows taking 23 GB of space. On my VMWare Windows 7 Professional machine, with Photoshop CS6, Visual Basic 2010, Firefox, etc, etc, it's taking up 14.5 GB. On a clean installation it's something like 7 - 8 GB, setting the page file to 200mb. Microsoft recommends 20 GB to install Windows (much less than your exaggerated 23GB), but that's so that the person could have enough space to add more things to it. My Windows 8 installation is taking up 11.7GB, and it also has programs installed.

So please, if you have any decency then you won't continue to mislead or lie.

There is a major flaw in your assumption of hard drive space. Not everyone installs the same stuff as everyone else. Also we are talking about the space that they are shipped with to begin with.

 

[Menneisyys2]

Keynote is better on the iPad than full blown PowerPoint is on a Windows tablet? Interesting.

Lolz... The iOS version of Keynote is a joke. And it has some major bugs - see https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1587698/

 

[aditya apple]

Who the **** wants to zoom in the home screen? It's all gimmicks except for the SD card. That's a legitimate feature that the iPad could use, and not for cameras but for upgrading the storage.

100% true.

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Lolz... The iOS version of Keynote is a joke. And it has some major bugs - see https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1587698/

All the bugs will be sorted out during the finsl release of ios 7 in September.

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"I don't need it therefore nobody else does"?

An SD card slot would be incredibly useful in an iPad.

It's obvious why Apple wouldn't allow it, but you don't think it would be a good idea to be able to load some of your apps, or music, or a pile of movies, onto an SD card for a long trip? Or pop the card out of your camera to load up the photos into iPhoto (without the need for the third piece of hardware, the Camera Connection Kit)? Or load up Office documents to read and edit?

Yeah!!

 

[Menneisyys2]

iOS 7 will multitask

No it won't, at least not to the extent of WinRT / Android / jailbroken iOS with Quasar, Background Manager or Backgrounder:

- it won't have the absolutely excellent dual-window capability of Win RT (also emphasized in this ad)

- it still won't allow you to run arbitrary code in the background (say, video playback over AirPlay / a wired TV adapter or video recording using the camera), only some kind of downloads / refreshes, as is also explained at https://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7-with-major-design-overhaul/ :

"Multitasking
iOS 7 offers up a smarter way to multitask. When users tap the home button twice, it will display preview screens of apps that are open. Unlike before, the screens are previews of actual apps rather than just a small app icon. iOS 7 incorporates a learning algorithm that takes note of when users utilize certain apps and keeps those up to date with new content before they are launched. So, for example, if someone wakes up and checks Facebook, iOS 7 will learn that behavior and have Facebook updates ready to go in the background before the app is opened. The new mobile OS also uses intelligently scheduled updates and will update during power efficient times. For example, when the device is connected to WiFi. It's also able to respond to push notifications, updating apps that send out notifications. "

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100% true.
All the bugs will be sorted out during the finsl release of ios 7 in September.

Well, I've discovered and reported this HUGE bug about two weeks ago. Want to make a bet whether it is fixed by September? Knowing Apple's slow bugfixing, it won't be. Design (looking good) is far more important for them than functionality (being free of bugs, or, for that matter, capabilities like windowing or multitasking, in which, sadly, alternative operating systems, including Windows RT, are far better).