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New Windows Tablet Ad Again Uses Siri's Voice to Poke Fun at iPad

chrisbru said:
Also, I'm not sure there is a big demand for THAT much storage on mobile devices. Sure, some people want it. But I bet if they introduced a 128gb iPhone, it would be the lowest selling device by quite a bit.
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I agree with this but mostly because the added memory would be priced so freaking high relative to the cost and flexibility of adding the same with an SD card slot. And then next year, when one needs more memory, they don't have to necessarily pay up for the cost of an entire new iPhone, they can just replace the SD with a bigger SD for much less expense.

In my own case I bought the biggest available iPad Mini (64GB). Load it up with 4-5 HD movies and it can be near full. 4-5 movies is not that much entertainment on hand for long trips. How great it would be to be able to turn it into a 128GB iPad by slugging in a cheap 64GB card. Or buy a couple of 64GB cards to swap out 4-5 movies while on the trip! And that's just the biggie for my own interests. An SD card slot has other benefits besides just cheap & flexible storage utility.
 
Lesser Evets said:
Well...

• iPad Mini is $329, iPad full is $499, not $599.
• Who needs to zoom in or out on the home screen?? It just is for a list of apps and items.
• SD cards are useless for most people, and I'd hate to pay for such a feature. You can transfer wireless or with an adaptor.
• iOS 7 will multitask.

Once again, Microsoft needs to obfuscate and misrepresent. How about what you can actually DO on the Windows Pads? Like, what helps someone be productive or entertained?
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Jesus, I'm an Apple fan but seriously?

- How is an SD slot not useful? It lets people buy the cheapest model and upgrade it to have 64gb (and soon 128gb) of extra storage. How the hell can you possibly say thats useless for most people?!

- iOS7 does not multitask. It has app switching. Apple call it multitasking but 'real' multitasking is having two apps running side by side allowing you to perform multiple tasks at the same time.
 
petrucci666 said:
Let's be real. 99% of the world uses a smartphone (most of them iPhones) for taking photos with a photo syncing service a la 'Camera Upload' in Dropbox. With iDevices you have Photo Stream. Zero work has to be done to transfer those photos.

For the 1 time a year your average user needs to plug in an SD card into an iPad, there is the Camera Kit. Don't make it seem like it's impossible.
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The camera kit could work better though. I should not have to import videos from my card to watch them on the ipad.
 
notjustjay said:
When I was on my Caribbean cruise last month, I took photos and video clips with a "real" camera. Sometimes, I wanted to share photos with my Facebook friends. So I would take a photo with my good camera, and then take the equivalent photo with my iPhone, and then I would post the iPhone photo on Facebook. Of course, the iPhone photo looked nowhere near as nice as the one I took with the real camera.

I could have taken out my CCK, and set up a transfer, but it was quicker and easier to take two photos with two cameras. Which was kind of silly, but.. oh well.
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I want to say something about you being a niche market that doesn't count for the vast majority of consumers, and how your usage scenario doesn't apply to 99% of the market

...but then I'd feel kinda stupid for saying something so incredibly dumb and shortsighted. So I'm not gonna say anything at all.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Gates has really distanced himself from Microsoft. He rarely makes any comments about the company and I believe I read that he has sold about half of his stock in the company and made other investments. He has really moved on from Microsoft.
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Was just trying to throw some humor :)

Its Friday and apple stock is down which is new normal. There comes the Weekend. Enjoy!
 
Adding SD card capability across the entire system would add complexity to UX.
 
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The first point is quite stupid, as zooming out of the iOS home screen wouldn't really provide any benefit, other than seeing that "you've got a bunch of tiny icons there". The two devices work differently, and doing the exact same gesture on both and expecting the same behavior is just dumb.

SD cards for the iPad would be quite good actually, since then you could just literally have as much storage as you'd like at pretty much no cost, given the ultra low SD card prices. It does feel like Apple is strategically avoiding this just so they can charge a lot more for higher storage versions…

But then, my Nokia 5310 also takes SD cards, but it unfortunately doesn't make it a good product :)

Multitasking would be interesting on iOS, as running two apps side by side would allow you to do fairly useful things: have a facetime/skype conversation with video in the corner while reading a webpage, and maybe discussing it with the other person, etc…
 
rmwebs said:
Jesus, I'm an Apple fan but seriously?

- How is an SD slot not useful? It lets people buy the cheapest model and upgrade it to have 64gb (and soon 128gb) of extra storage. How the hell can you possibly say thats useless for most people?!

- iOS7 does not multitask. It has app switching. Apple call it multitasking but 'real' multitasking is having two apps running side by side allowing you to perform multiple tasks at the same time.
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Multitaksing is two applications doing things at the same time. iOS has supported it in a limited fashion for a long time and will expand the multi-tasking capabilities in iOS 7. Your definition of multitasking is just wrong.
 
rmwebs said:
- How is an SD slot not useful? It lets people buy the cheapest model and upgrade it to have 64gb (and soon 128gb) of extra storage. How the hell can you possibly say thats useless for most people?!

- iOS7 does not multitask. It has app switching. Apple call it multitasking but 'real' multitasking is having two apps running side by side allowing you to perform multiple tasks at the same time.
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these things add complexity to the UX. useful, but until Apple finds a super easy way of doing it, it probably won't happen.
 
rfahey said:
Camera Connection Kit: $29

People really need to learn how to think outside the box.
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How about Apple think inside the box ... i.e. include an SD slot to save me hanging a big ugly $29 bit of plastic precariously on the end of my iPad!!! (not to mention screwing me for more cash!!)
 
rmwebs said:
You're calling split-screen multitasking a gimmick? I'd say almost every single iPad owner out there would disagree with that.

There are a lot of (very easy) things Apple could do to make the iPad a much better product, but they wont. They only do things that fix declining sales, and as long as the iPad's sales keep going sky high they wont add anything they dont have to - you know Apple, this is how they work. Keep it limited but wanted.
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Except they are constantly adding things to the iPad and sales have never declined...
 
joneill55 said:
Well let's see......Windows tablets have a 7.5% market share and the iPad 81.3%last figures I saw.

Additionally, I've been to 4 meetings this morning including one out of the office and here is the tablet score today:

Ipad 27 Windows tablets 0

Real friends??? We got market share up the wazoo and all kinds of real friends to boot. It would appear you Window folk need some market share badly. Good luck with that and that platform!
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They're just gadgets made by faceless companies. People who always defend "their" company are sad people. Case in point.
 
chadley_chad said:
How about Apple think inside the box ... i.e. include an SD slot to save me hanging a big ugly $29 bit of plastic precariously on the end of my iPad!!! (not to mention screwing me for more cash!!)
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You think they should add the SD card slot for free? Where would you put it? Take apart an iPad get some SD card slots and show us how you would integrate it.
 
wovel said:
Multitaksing is two applications doing things at the same time. iOS has supported it in a limited fashion for a long time and will expand the multi-tasking capabilities in iOS 7. Your definition of multitasking is just wrong.
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Explain how its 'expanded' in iOS7. Its 'expanded' in that it reduces battery usage, and has smart resource allocation. It doesn't increase productivity in any other way than pre-fetching data from push notifications, speeding up your app launch time by like 0.5 of a second. Other than that all we have extra is a redesigned app switching display, heavily inspired by (and almost identical to) one from Cydia.

The clue is in the name here really. Multi Task. You can switch apps on iOS but you cant perform multiple tasks at once. You can leave an app performing a background task, but how is that equivalent to or even better than being able to run the two apps side by side, controlling both of them.
 
Lesser Evets said:
Well...

• iPad Mini is $329, iPad full is $499, not $599.
• Who needs to zoom in or out on the home screen?? It just is for a list of apps and items.
• SD cards are useless for most people, and I'd hate to pay for such a feature. You can transfer wireless or with an adaptor.
• iOS 7 will multitask.

Once again, Microsoft needs to obfuscate and misrepresent. How about what you can actually DO on the Windows Pads? Like, what helps someone be productive or entertained?
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32GB iPad is $599 (read the text in the ad)
They were comparing a 32GB iPad to a 32GB Dell.

Nice to have feature instead of scrolling through page after page to find an app. Yes, some people actually have a crap ton of apps installed.

SD card slot is a "nice to have" with no need to carry around an adapter.
It's also nice to know that you are an authority on what is "useless" for most people.
Multi tasking was not the issue in the ad. Being able to view two apps running side by side was being shown. Something the iPad simply cannot do.

Everyone knows what you can do on a Windows 8 tablet... same thing you can do on your desktop. ;)
 
rmwebs said:
Jesus, I'm an Apple fan but seriously?

- How is an SD slot not useful? It lets people buy the cheapest model and upgrade it to have 64gb (and soon 128gb) of extra storage. How the hell can you possibly say thats useless for most people?!

- iOS7 does not multitask. It has app switching. Apple call it multitasking but 'real' multitasking is having two apps running side by side allowing you to perform multiple tasks at the same time.
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Good points. SD slot would be useful but Apple will never do it because they want you to go buy a new iPad instead so they make more money.

The App switching in iOS 7 reminds me a lot of WebOS from a few years ago. It's a nice addition but like you say true multi-tasking would be so much better.

I thought it was a clever ad. Point out how your product is better than the other guys. Isn't that what advertising is all about. The use of Siri voice was funny. It doesn't make me want to switch but it will make people laugh.
 
rfahey said:
Camera Connection Kit: $29

People really need to learn how to think outside the box.
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Now that's innovation! Steve would've wanted it this way.
 
komodrone said:
these things add complexity to the UX. useful, but until Apple finds a super easy way of doing it, it probably won't happen.
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Did Apple wait on a Sim card slot in iPhone until they found a super easy way of doing it. An SD card slot is probably less complicated to build in than a SIM card slot.

wovel said:
You think they should add the SD card slot for free? Where would you put it? Take apart an iPad get some SD card slots and show us how you would integrate it.
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So are you saying that if Apple wanted to do it, they couldn't possibly do it because there's no way they could make it happen or that companies like ASUS are smarter than Apple because they found a way to fit it into these Windows tablets?

Just because current models are stuffed to the gills doesn't mean next models could not be engineered to fit in something as small as an SD card. Almost every generation of Apple hardware that needs to add new hardware pieces & parts finds a way in spite of the spin of "thinner & lighter". I bet if Apple wanted (which would involve Apple deciding it doesn't like the fat premium on it being the only option of bigger storage) they could "magically" find the way to put 2 sim cards inside something as packed as even say the iPhone or Mini without- say- battery compromises. It wouldn't be about finding a way to build it into the iDevices already in the wild; it would be about building it into a next generation iDevice(s).
 
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