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A minority are lazy and not doing their jobs, just like any workplace. The vast majority of police do their jobs for the right reason. But what do I know? I was only in the Police for 36 years. It's so much easier to knock them instead of having the courage to do it.

In my experience 80% are all “keep your head down till retirement”
 
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The New York Police Department (NYPD) is encouraging New York car owners to install Apple AirTags in cars in order to cut down on car theft in the city.

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In a tweet shared over the weekend, the NYPD said that "the 21st century calls for 21st century policing," and that an AirTag in a car will help officers recover a car if it is stolen. An accompanying video instructs car owners to get an AirTag and install it in a location in the vehicle where it can't easily be found.

The video then demonstrates a car theft where the owner uses the Find My app to track the car, with the tracking information relayed to the police. Officers find the car thanks to the AirTag and are able to recover the vehicle and arrest the thief.


"Safe guard your car by simply putting an Apple AirTag inside of it," the NYPD writes at the end of the video. The AirTag initiative comes after a viral TikTok car theft video that caused an uptick in thefts across the United States. In the TikTok, thieves demonstrate how to get into Hyundai and Kia vehicles through an easily accessible exploit.

In an accompanying press conference on Sunday, New York City mayor Eric Adams said that the city will provide 500 free AirTags to car owners. According to CBS News, the AirTags are available to residents in Castle Hill, Soundview, and Parkchester, as these areas have seen a 548 percent increase in stolen Hyundai and Kia vehicles.

Article Link: New York Police Department Encourages Car Owners to Use AirTags to Deter Theft, 500 Free AirTags Available

What I've heard from other police department is AirTags don't help inside of cars. Cars are too much metal and block the signal so if in a car need to put it by a window where it there is less metal. Some people are using the keyfobs with AirTags so they can track the thief or where ever they leave the keys.
 
Yea, my wife’s car got broke into at a hotel she was at for a work conference. All her personal belongings taken. A few months later they caught the guy with her MBP and of course, he is a career criminal. Got a call from the ADA asking if my wife would make some type of recommendation so he could get into some type of rehab program. So, basically, he’ll get into the program and avoid jail, then he will resume activity and just work harder to not get caught.
What you’re saying is
1) The police did their job catching the person
2) The ADA contacted your wife, because victims should have an opportunity to have a say in sentencing. Sounds progressive to me.

The rest is cynical assumption.
 
So is it better for a would-be car thief to use android phones in order to avoid triggering AirTags, or iPhones to be able to scan for them? Or just not have a phone on them at the time of committing said crime?
 
Free electronic tracking devices from a law enforcement agency with a very strained relationship with civil liberties, specifically search and seizure? Man, where do I sign up?

PS - Google “state sponsored hardware level surveillance” before trying to suggest the NYPD (which also has RF and comms gear at every traffic light, right of way, in every vehicle, and on every Officer on foot/bike/bus, etc) couldn’t easily slide their own baseband into them to (at the very least) simply track hardware identifier whereabouts.
 
In my experience 80% are all “keep your head down till retirement”
From my experience, 80% are doing their job, 10% are trying to climb the corporate ladder and 10% are keeping their head down.

So is it better for a would-be car thief to use android phones in order to avoid triggering AirTags, or iPhones to be able to scan for them? Or just not have a phone on them at the time of committing said crime?
Great question. People can obviously search for AirTags nearby with an iPhone. If a vehicle has one hidden in it, a criminal who doesn’t want to get caught is not going to start searching all of the places an AirTag can be hidden outside of the glove compartment or centre console. They’ll move on to the next car. So for that criminal, it acts as a pretty good deterrent.

Free electronic tracking devices from a law enforcement agency with a very strained relationship with civil liberties, specifically search and seizure? Man, where do I sign up?

PS - Google “state sponsored hardware level surveillance” before trying to suggest the NYPD couldn’t easily slide their own baseband into them.
They can track every car with ANPR, so why would they bother with developing technology for 0.025% of cars to have an AirTag. Conspiracy theories are hilarious.
 
Great question. People can obviously search for AirTags nearby with an iPhone. If a vehicle has one hidden in it, a criminal who doesn’t want to get caught is not going to start searching all of the places an AirTag can be hidden outside of the glove compartment or centre console. They’ll move on to the next car. So for that criminal, it acts as a pretty good deterrent.
While we are on this topic, is the ability to scan for AirTags inside the find my app a US-only feature? I am living in Asia and I can't seem to locate the feature anywhere inside said app.

Perhaps it's as you said - more of a deterrent than a means of tracking down cars after they have been jacked.

On a side note, whatever happened to in-car GPS systems? Didn't cars used to come with them?
 
While we are on this topic, is the ability to scan for AirTags inside the find my app a US-only feature? I am living in Asia and I can't seem to locate the feature anywhere inside said app.

Perhaps it's as you said - more of a deterrent than a means of tracking down cars after they have been jacked.

On a side note, whatever happened to in-car GPS systems? Didn't cars used to come with them?
I’m in Australia and I just tried it and it works, although other than mine, I got a negative result.

They do have GPS, but only a few high end ones have transmitters as far as I am aware. But you can get them fitted after market.
 
Dude, back in 2013 state sponsored actors were compromising phones (much more sophisticated, delicate, and hardened devices than an AirTag) at the hardware level, do you really think 10 years later state-sponsored actors can't easily do the same thing to basically just a glorified microcontroller?

Some guy in his spare time with zero state-sponsored apparatus did rooted his AirTag. I guarantee you your AirTag is "shared" with any agency of any scale that so desires it, without Apple even in the loop on that "sharing".

Let's not forget the NYPD is an enormous entity with significant links to US federal LE agencies and even the DoD. And they don't have the best record when it comes to civil liberties, either.


Hack a day 🤘
 
New York Police advertising for Apple, LOL. How come they didn't advertise for Tile or other GPS-enabled tracking companies? A little sketch!

However, I do keep an AirTag in my car at all times. It does come in very handy. Love AirTags!
It's simple... Tile etc does not work... I used them in the past and the crowdsourcing was a joke. And even non-crowd sourcing, it just didn't work...
 
A minority are lazy and not doing their jobs, just like any workplace. The vast majority of police do their jobs for the right reason. But what do I know? I was only in the Police for 36 years. It's so much easier to knock them instead of having the courage to do it.

Wait, were you a cop in Australia or the US? There’s a huge difference there, here police act like an occupying army with no rules of engagement. When I was in Europe I never even saw a cop with a gun and they were always friendly and helpful, never once did I feel threatened by them.
 
Despite all the obstacles that Apple implements to deter it is still possible to use an AirTag for theft tracking purposes on a car. A thief will only get a notification they are being tracked if they have an iPhone. On Android you actually have to download an app and manually check. Also depending on the situation there is a time buffer between when a thief would get tracking notification or an airtag starts making sound. A small window of opportunity to track is better than none at all.

Even if they do realize they are being tracked there are endless places to hide one that would take time for a thief to find. Hiding one in an engine bay, inside a bumper cover, take apart dash, take apart rear seat, inside trunk under the liner or in spare tire well etc. Hiding an AirTag good enough to the point where disassembly of parts of the vehicle may buy enough time for it to be located after being stolen.

If you make the AirTag frustrating to find and get to the thief may also just get spooked enough to abandon the car. In that case them knowing they are being tracked might be a good thing.

Anyhow my vehicle already has built in GPS tracking from the factory. I keep an AirTag hidden in the car for extra peace of mind.

The point is to increase the odds by a substantial enough percentage that fewer thieves will risk being caught.

If I put 500 poisoned M&Ms in a bowl of 10,000 safe M&Ms, you’d get far fewer people digging their hands into that bowl.

There’ll always be the pros who operate in surgical fashion but all the opportunists are going to stay away, making it easier for the cops to focus on the big fish.
 
What I've heard from other police department is AirTags don't help inside of cars. Cars are too much metal and block the signal so if in a car need to put it by a window where it there is less metal. Some people are using the keyfobs with AirTags so they can track the thief or where ever they leave the keys.

Is this true? I need to know before I hide an AirTag in my car..🫥
 
Stop with the gaslighting and cherry-picking data. From 2019 to 2020 there was a 26% jump in murder/homicide. Carjackings are rampant in Chicago and there is a mass shooting in Chicago every weekend but you don't hear about it because it's gang violence and black on black crime. The loop which used to be safe at night is dangerous and in just the last 3 weeks there were multiple nights of rioting in the nicest part of the city for no reason. In NYC they had a record setting number of felony grade crimes committed. The majority of these crimes are repeat offenders because ****** DA's arn't keeping these violent and dangerous people behind bars.
You’re the one cherry-picking. The pandemic obviously caused a spike in crime because of the loss of income of so many people. It went back down after
 
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Is this true? I need to know before I hide an AirTag in my car..🫥
It’s true that metal blocks signals so it’s better not to hide it in the motor compartment or something like that. Easy enough to test it for yourself, if you get a signal then it’s OK, simple as that.
 
What worries me is that insurance companies might sooner or later make tracking mandatory. Some might even require access to your location. Otherwise you will not get the cheapest premiums. There are already insurance contracts that say that your car is not insured if you park it outside at night.

Not sure though if there aren't any better solutions that can't be detected that easily by a thief. A good spy device would stay silent and undetectable most of the time and then send the location out once an hour or even just once at night when then thieve is likely sleeping.

If you really want to fool the thieve, you could put two trackers in the car. One that he will easily find and feel save afterwards and one that he will likely not find, as he will probably start searching after he found the first device.

Of course if a thieve could detect that there is a tacking device somewhere in the car, that might also be a good thing. He would probably rather steal another car then. So it could even make sense to put a sticker on the car that mentions the tracking device.
 
Not sure though if there aren't any better solutions that can't be detected that easily by a thief. A good spy device would stay silent and undetectable most of the time and then send the location out once an hour or even just once at night when then thieve is likely sleeping.
Just a GPS transmitter hard wired with a kill switch. Easy to have installed and quite common
 
New York Police advertising for Apple, LOL. How come they didn't advertise for Tile or other GPS-enabled tracking companies? A little sketch!
I literally don't know anyone who has a Tile (or the app installed) so the chances of tracking successfully would be close to 0% vs close to 100% with an Airtag. It's the cheap and cheerful option that works (for purposes not endorsed by Apple).
I don't use AirTags in my car just because I'm worried about leaving it in the hot car in summer.
Firstly, it's not a blowey uppy "Lithium battery" ... it's a big watch battery. I leave a dashcam that does have a far more volitile "LiPo" battery in my car windscreen. It's survived over 5 years just fine in the 35 degree heat here.

It's not like you are going to leave the Airtag on the dashboard anyhow unless you are attaching it to the base of a Hula Girl.
How could AirTags be blamed for car theft? I don’t understand that.
Thieves attaching them to cars they want to steal, and taking it whenever its most convenient. Do you always check your wheel wells ;)
 
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