Am I the only one who notices that the Longhorn metadata search is creepy-ish close to Spotlight? 
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iindigo said:Am I the only one who notices that the Longhorn metadata search is creepy-ish close to Spotlight?
Come on now. Microsoft has been discussing that they were going to be doing metadeta based file systems and search for over 3 years now. You can't honestly say that they are coping OS X on that.
Who knows maybe if they hadn't announced they were going to be doing metadata then Tiger wouldn't have it.
Well, a reality of Windows (and maybe the Mac, too) is that sometimes programs appear to be locked up or hung, when in reality they're busy doing something or waiting for something to happen. In the absence of visual feedback, impatient users will frequently kill the program... if they'd waited just a few seconds, everything might have resumed normal operation. Hence, this dialog box.angelneo said:
(iTunes does something similar on my Mac mini... when I drag album art into it, sometimes the cursor changes to the "wait watch" and doesn't change back until I click in the application. If I relied on the cursor appearance, I might think that iTunes is hung.)
dferrara said:
Really? Because he runs a Microsoft site? AND gets to go to all the shows, etc. and take pics and get VIP everywhere?
AND owns another site: http://www.internet-nexus.com/
In which he constantly praises Apple and other companies and reviews/previews new software which MR members may find good?
Yep... he needs to die
dferrara said:
A little harsh don't you think?
Hey, it's only a computer OS, and he is entitled to his opinion, no matter how ridiculous we think it is. Besides, he can always be relied upon to give us a good laugh - at least until he some time in the future when wises up (if ever) and switches
"Safer = taking OSX install functions..."
To that, I do have to say - AT LONG LAST. That one simple dialog box will put a halt to many viruses and is one of OS X's best security features. I'm glad Microsoft copied that - it's in everyone's best interests.
As for the theme - it looks different enough to be ugly Microsoft still...
To that, I do have to say - AT LONG LAST. That one simple dialog box will put a halt to many viruses and is one of OS X's best security features. I'm glad Microsoft copied that - it's in everyone's best interests.
As for the theme - it looks different enough to be ugly Microsoft still...
markie said:
No, the theme looks great! (And Apple can learn from them - now there are 4 different themes in OSX which run at the same time, I believe...)
Won't do anything too much NOW - most email services download the program, and with IE you can run it automatically... other times just visiting websites get you viruses...
Hah, unbelievable. I was going to post about his newest Longhorn update (dated 3/18/05 I believe?)...but it seems that you guys beat me to it.
The admin p/w should be good enough to stop children from installing useless programs, but something tells me the parents will tell the children the p/w regardless anyway...
I also like how Paul Thurott updated the h/w recommendations for Longhorn. This should put an end to the highly generalized/made-up crap we see here on MR "4-6Ghz CPU, 2GB+ of RAM", when the truth is far from that.
3Ghz/A64, a year from now, is not unreasonable, especially when you consider that undoubtedly PCs will be using dual-cores on the high-end, in 2006. Thereby, making almost all of the single-core CPUs highly affordable. Heck, my Athlon XP will be a "G3" by then. Yes, it is that drastic.
The admin p/w should be good enough to stop children from installing useless programs, but something tells me the parents will tell the children the p/w regardless anyway...
I also like how Paul Thurott updated the h/w recommendations for Longhorn. This should put an end to the highly generalized/made-up crap we see here on MR "4-6Ghz CPU, 2GB+ of RAM", when the truth is far from that.
3Ghz/A64, a year from now, is not unreasonable, especially when you consider that undoubtedly PCs will be using dual-cores on the high-end, in 2006. Thereby, making almost all of the single-core CPUs highly affordable. Heck, my Athlon XP will be a "G3" by then. Yes, it is that drastic.
absolut_mac said:A little harsh don't you think?
Hey, it's only a computer OS, and he is entitled to his opinion, no matter how ridiculous we think it is. Besides, he can always be relied upon to give us a good laugh - at least until he some time in the future when wises up (if ever) and switches
I believe he has used/likes Macs
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longhorn....
does anyone else notice the ridiculous system requirements just to run longhorn? a 3GHZ computer? Thats insane??? I mean yeah longhorn looks nice but OSX does too and doesn't have such demanding system reqs. I just find that amusing that my brother's 2.6GHz (though I'm sure it can) won't be able to run the next OS in the windows world, its only a year old....thats just plain sad. I did notice as many others have pointed out, there are alot of borrowed items including icons (some just look too similar). I'm not including the search section though, I've also heard that MS was working on this before so it can't really be said to be copying.
OSX 10.4 is supposedly supposed to work on my PowerBook which is relatively new and loaded up as PBs go(1.5GHz G4, 2GB RAM/80GB 5400rpm HD, SuperDrive, ATI 9700 w/128MB RAM) and I have no reservations that it will. I just don't see why MS designs OS' that need a beast of a machine to use it (I believe those requirements are rather outlandish and are likely to be set much lower, afterall its still a beta). I remember when I upgraded to Windows XP I had little problems (man this was back aways lol, it was a 866Mhz PIII with 512MB RAM) but I know a great many newer computers that had great difficulty running it...rather disappointing.
I used to be a windows guy, I still am to a degree asI still own that PIII, its been more reliable than a typical windows computer so I figured I'd keep it around. However I jumped ship to Macs this year while in college, and don't regret it, I love my PowerBook and the PowerMac G5s we use, if apple keeps up with the stellar design, solid OS and finally making chips that strike fear into the PC industry again (G5) I think they are on the road back.
does anyone else notice the ridiculous system requirements just to run longhorn? a 3GHZ computer? Thats insane??? I mean yeah longhorn looks nice but OSX does too and doesn't have such demanding system reqs. I just find that amusing that my brother's 2.6GHz (though I'm sure it can) won't be able to run the next OS in the windows world, its only a year old....thats just plain sad. I did notice as many others have pointed out, there are alot of borrowed items including icons (some just look too similar). I'm not including the search section though, I've also heard that MS was working on this before so it can't really be said to be copying.
OSX 10.4 is supposedly supposed to work on my PowerBook which is relatively new and loaded up as PBs go(1.5GHz G4, 2GB RAM/80GB 5400rpm HD, SuperDrive, ATI 9700 w/128MB RAM) and I have no reservations that it will. I just don't see why MS designs OS' that need a beast of a machine to use it (I believe those requirements are rather outlandish and are likely to be set much lower, afterall its still a beta). I remember when I upgraded to Windows XP I had little problems (man this was back aways lol, it was a 866Mhz PIII with 512MB RAM) but I know a great many newer computers that had great difficulty running it...rather disappointing.
I used to be a windows guy, I still am to a degree asI still own that PIII, its been more reliable than a typical windows computer so I figured I'd keep it around. However I jumped ship to Macs this year while in college, and don't regret it, I love my PowerBook and the PowerMac G5s we use, if apple keeps up with the stellar design, solid OS and finally making chips that strike fear into the PC industry again (G5) I think they are on the road back.
Hunts121 said:
Recommendations DOES NOT equal requirements. I guess Paul doesn't make that clear, or your just making up stuff you want to believe.
Yeah, OSX requires minimum G3 + 128MB RAM. Guess what my iBook is running on?
Yeah, minimum requirements. OSX recommendations are obviously much higher, but Apple never really mentions it do they?
mad jew said:
What?? The two look nothing alike! Apple's FUS looks totally different. Steve just said that Microsoft had finally put a good idea into action before Apple, that's all.
savar said:
savar, read my posts a little more carefully please. I agree, they don't look the same, but there are definitely similarities.
I think most people here will agree that it is crazy a company as large as Microsoft seems to remain a step behind Apple in a number of ways.
Also, why does Microsoft have to continue to support ancient legacy services? The core of the Microsoft "creed" is to force users to need them. They make their money by selling new software afterall.
Also, why does Microsoft have to continue to support ancient legacy services? The core of the Microsoft "creed" is to force users to need them. They make their money by selling new software afterall.
There are only so many logical ways to present log in windows, dialogue boxes and search results.
Is there a way to get out of the 'It may open if you wait' box? An 'OK' or 'No chance I'm in a hurry' option?
I was surprised at the search results window though. Why on earth does the average user need to see the computer generated reference for it? If they can't remember the file name, there's little chance they're going to remember the reference number? That, to me, is the prime difference between Mac and Windows. Windows tries to put so much information on the screen that they forget what most people need. That field should be optional at the very least.
Is there a way to get out of the 'It may open if you wait' box? An 'OK' or 'No chance I'm in a hurry' option?
I was surprised at the search results window though. Why on earth does the average user need to see the computer generated reference for it? If they can't remember the file name, there's little chance they're going to remember the reference number? That, to me, is the prime difference between Mac and Windows. Windows tries to put so much information on the screen that they forget what most people need. That field should be optional at the very least.
The whole password authentication thing has been around in UNIX since, er, is it 1969? Regardless of the (in)accuracy of my date, one thing is clear - it's been around for a lot longer than both OS X and Longhorn.
You can bet though that in Longhorn this is going to be something nailed on top of the native OS code. There's a system in XP which protects the key system files and will replace them if they're tampered with - however if you kill explorer.exe, tamper with the files anyway and hit 'No' on all the following dialogue boxes, you've succeeded in changing them.
You can bet though that in Longhorn this is going to be something nailed on top of the native OS code. There's a system in XP which protects the key system files and will replace them if they're tampered with - however if you kill explorer.exe, tamper with the files anyway and hit 'No' on all the following dialogue boxes, you've succeeded in changing them.
