The Salazar's were terrorists in Season 3 of 24.
Coincidence? I think not.
I wonder what was originally under that "Enter an administrator password..." line.
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The Salazar's were terrorists in Season 3 of 24.
Coincidence? I think not.
I wonder what was originally under that "Enter an administrator password..." line.
This is a bit off-topic ... but ...mkrishnan said:
You can, if you really want, set the Applications folder to read only and lock the settings, so that when someone wants to add a new Application they have to unlock the lock with their password and change the permission. It's tedious, and you have to remember to to set the permissions back to read only after each time you do this, but if you really need it, there you go.
Did anybody else notice that the article included a shot of "Stackable Documents"? Wasn't that an idea rejected in OS X 10.3?
Despite the fact that Microsoft seems to be repeating it's own mistakes (by not starting from the ground up) and indeed Apples mistakes (what was it called Copland? Well, whatever it was it took too long!)... but I gotta admit, though I love OS X and hate Windows, longhorn doesn't look fugly!
Despite the fact that Microsoft seems to be repeating it's own mistakes (by not starting from the ground up) and indeed Apples mistakes (what was it called Copland? Well, whatever it was it took too long!)... but I gotta admit, though I love OS X and hate Windows, longhorn doesn't look fugly!
Sedulous said:
With the state that Microsoft's OS is in now, I think they are nervous that if they are too quick to drop legacy support, it will give major customers all the incentive they need to seriously consider the alternatives, such as OS X and Linux.
After all, if your business has to completely re-write that custom in-house app to support a next-gen version of Windows anyway, why not consider other platforms?
I used to work for a major Canadian insurance company that has their entire customer service division operating with a custom, business-critical, in-house developed app that requires Windows 95.
mkrishnan said:
Not a dumb question at all.
The easiest way to do this is make the group permissions on /Applications be tied to the "wheel" group instead of the "admin" group.
You can change the group ownership of /Applications by using the Get Info panel. Expand the Details twistie under the Ownership and Permissions twistie. You'll see where to make the change, and you'll need to authenticate before OS X lets you do it.
After changing the group ownership of /Applications, OS X will then ask for authentication before an Administrator account can add or delete files from the /Applications folder.
NOTE: I just tried this out on my own machine and it seems to work just fine, but anyone who understands permissions and cares to comment, please do -- I am by no means an expert, I just have a small understanding of how Unix-style permissions work.
dotdotdot said:
He claims to be unbiased and even owns a few iPods and Powerbooks, but whenever an article is posted ANYWHERE that even suggests that someone has hacked a Mac he posts it with a snide little commentary about how Apple doesn't know how to secure software and how great Microsoft is etc etc...
What I find funny is he uses an iPod, yet always makes sure to note that the iPod is just a "fad" and that Napster will pretty much have iTunes shut down in a year.
Edit: Another funny Thurrottism... even though he believes IE 7 is probably going to be the best thing since sliced bread, he still uses Firefox... not even HE is that dumb. You know IE is bad when a Microsoft zealot doesn't even use it.
DavidLeblond said:
Indeed
which explains these comments of his perfectly (all taken from Thurrott's Internet Nexus blog):And the big one
He's no Mac evangelist, and he's no insane Windows shill. He has opinions we may disagree with, but I find his writings on his blog to be very well expressed and very fair. If credit's worth giving, he gives it. It certainly beats the rabid droolings of the likes of Mac Mischief, Mac Daily News, etc etc etc.
hob said:
From the description in the article, I'm not entirely sure how often I'd use these in my everyday, highly Office intensive workplace. It just seems like another way to sort - and once you get beyond a few authors/dates/file types, it could get a little unwieldy. I wonder if it will support Smart Searches like Tiger - now those, I could see useful.
DavidLeBlond said:
I agree with your iPod analogy - although I suspect he's using the 'know thy enemy' argument - but I disagree with this one showing him for a hypocrite. Hopefully IE7 will learn from IE6's mistakes (it would clean up the internet for all of us) but no-one, not even windows zealots, is denying that IE6 is a security nightmare that most people would be better off avoiding.
Give me a break here guys..
What's the big deal? Yeah it looks exactly like what you would expect a microsoft-ized OS X window to look like but really, how many times have they done this type of thing before? I really fail to see how anyone is suprised. Microsoft was perfectly content with their boxy looking widgets and battleship gray until everyone raved about how good OS X looked, and then they came out with the 'Mattel skin' with XP. And then the countless times this has happened before.
The thing that really gets me though is not the GUI, it's the fact that other than AIX, most major OSes are at least partly open source. OS X, all the BSDs, all the Linuxes, and soon to come Solaris 10. That's a wide variety of code for someone that was building an OS to take ideas from, which isn't so bad other than I'm sure they don't even freely distribute DOS code let alone NT, XP or Longhorn. Being the way they keep their OS code tight to their chest and everyone else doesn't, they possibly could be dropping whole subroutines right in with slight modification, and I'd be suprised if they don't to a certain extent. So what's a little window styling ripoff? Honestly I wouldn't worry about this too much cause all it will do is aggrivate you.
What's the big deal? Yeah it looks exactly like what you would expect a microsoft-ized OS X window to look like but really, how many times have they done this type of thing before? I really fail to see how anyone is suprised. Microsoft was perfectly content with their boxy looking widgets and battleship gray until everyone raved about how good OS X looked, and then they came out with the 'Mattel skin' with XP. And then the countless times this has happened before.
The thing that really gets me though is not the GUI, it's the fact that other than AIX, most major OSes are at least partly open source. OS X, all the BSDs, all the Linuxes, and soon to come Solaris 10. That's a wide variety of code for someone that was building an OS to take ideas from, which isn't so bad other than I'm sure they don't even freely distribute DOS code let alone NT, XP or Longhorn. Being the way they keep their OS code tight to their chest and everyone else doesn't, they possibly could be dropping whole subroutines right in with slight modification, and I'd be suprised if they don't to a certain extent. So what's a little window styling ripoff? Honestly I wouldn't worry about this too much cause all it will do is aggrivate you.
Mav451 said:
I know they don't equal requirements perhaps I should have worded that differently, and no I wasn't making it up, its in his article. I mean I read somewhere that 1GHz machine was recommended for Windows XP, I put it on my computer which had close to that, but not quite....ran fine, no problems. It was also on our 600Mhz Athlon, and it ran fine on that as well, no slowdowns or anything (though both comps had 512MB RAM).
Now that you mention it, I've never seen the OSX recommendations...lol. I wasn't trying to flame windows users, as I said I use it myself, and I am curious about Longhorn, but its been a LONGTIME and I have my doubts. As for the whole copying each other thing (MS and Apple) its been going on for years, boths sides have done it, whats the big deal? I mean sure I notice similarities, but thats just the way it goes.
Yeah, its just people here at MR make a big deal when they see multiple GHz as a requirement. And then they forget, that while the G4 was stuck at 1 to 1.33 range, that P4's (and the Athlon XP PR) were already hitting 3Ghz, and that was in late 2002!
I'm saying that the PC industry moves so fast, that by 2nd half next year (2006), if Longhorn comes out at all, that those requirements aren't back-breaking. If anything, I'll probably be on dual-core by then, or if not, A64 single-cores would be in the $150 and under range by then.
I'm saying that the PC industry moves so fast, that by 2nd half next year (2006), if Longhorn comes out at all, that those requirements aren't back-breaking. If anything, I'll probably be on dual-core by then, or if not, A64 single-cores would be in the $150 and under range by then.
ct77 said:
A slightly easier option:
1) Create a new admin account
2) Change the ownership of /Applications (and everything in it) to that account
3) Remove the admin permissions from you original account
4) Edit /etc/sudoers and add the original account into it manually.
Now you have the best of all worlds:
Your account by default is denied write access to all system files and directories
Anything you do from the gui gives you the option to authenticate by typing in the admin account name and password (that includes writing to areas you don't have permission).
Working in the CLI still gives you the option to "sudo ..." to elevate permissions.
The one catch is every time you install an application bundle by drag and drop, you have to remember to manually change the ownership to the admin account, and if you're really paranoid keep an eye for stuff that's world writeable that really doesn't need to be. 90% of the programs are fine, but some still don't pay enough attention.
I've been running this way for a year with nary a problem
Bringing it back on topic
I bet the windows security model still won't make it this easy to run from a non-admin account. After all they put the "Run as..." option in 2K to try and allow a sudo-style priv escalation, but it's still mostly useless.
angelneo said:
Actually, I had an unzipping program that WinXP thought crashed so it tried to help so it denied it system resources so that it would save my computer. It was a very simple Unzipping program. Net result-- I had to wait a looonnggg time for it to unzip because it wasn't getting as much of the CPU as it wanted.
hob said:
Copland became OS 8. Copland was project Pink. (Blue-- System 7 with PPC support, Pink was full PPC support [aka OS 8], Red-- farther beyond Pink, never really made it) Copland is where we get that Platinum theme, etc. In the end, when Jobs came back, he froze Copland, killed it, and then took chunks of it and turned it into OS 8, 8.1, 8.5, and 8.6. Then he set the sights on NeXT and OS X, while releasing OS 9 to further the move to PPC and keep computers running fine with support for newer stuffs.
Mav451 said:
Think about the fact that last year, the fastest P4 a year and a half ago was a 3.6 GHz and this currently the fastest was a 3.8 GHz.
Many issues going to 90nm processing for CPUs. So speed has kinda stalled out a bit while those issues are being fixed.
Why are people placing so much attention into this?
This is nothing new a dialog box prompting for a password to install something, maybe new to Windows so what is the big deal. Every company copies what they think is good about another and implements it into they own.
No one knows as of yet when LH is going to be released and who knows what new features Apple will have by that time. The bad news is that MS is playing catch up while Apple is innovating and borrowing to a small degree.
Apple is moving forward while MS is following into footsteps.
This is nothing new a dialog box prompting for a password to install something, maybe new to Windows so what is the big deal. Every company copies what they think is good about another and implements it into they own.
No one knows as of yet when LH is going to be released and who knows what new features Apple will have by that time. The bad news is that MS is playing catch up while Apple is innovating and borrowing to a small degree.
Apple is moving forward while MS is following into footsteps.
What trouble me that whilst you and I know this is true, I can see the scene in about five years time...maya said:Apple is moving forward while MS is following into footsteps.
"Hey look Hob, I just found out that Windows MINT (2010 Prosumer Edition) can do this amazing thing with the windows... if you press ctrl+alt+f5+down arrow, all the windows turn into thumbnails and you can select which one you want...!"
What I'm trying to say is, that whilst Apple is helping set the standard for next-generation OS's (or what we like to call our current OS), Microsoft will rip it off, and nobody will be any the wiser...?
hob said:
I don't know guys...
My first instinct is to also cringe and say "Whoa, ripoff!" But let's think about this for a moment... what are they supposed to do?
For decades people have been lambasting Microsoft for copying Apple... and others for copying Xerox, and VisiCorp (VisiOn was actually more of a basis for what Bill Gates wanted for Windows, not so much the Mac at the time)... but let's step back in time a little bit.
It's 1984. Apple has just introduced the revolutionary new computer with a mouse and GUI.
What did you guys WANT to have happened? Should Microsoft and IBM and Wang and DEC and all of those guys simply have said "Oh well" and kept on going with their green-on-black terminals and CGA screens?
Should that be what had happened? Should we be on our Macs running OS X and everyone else in the world is still running DOS?
Or should Microsoft Windows had been some original concept, in order to avoid all appearances of similarity, that Microsoft would have intentionally obfuscated the desktop metaphor? Can you imagine how much fun computing would be then?
Come on... when ANY computer company introduces new features they are furthering the industry state-of-the-art. Some of the ideas have patents, but others are simply not that unique, or so obvious that you can't help but copy it. If Edison hadn't been credited with the invention of the light bulb, some other fellow would have a few days later.
In the case of this particular screenshot what bothers me is that Microsoft has "arbitrarily" changed their color scheme, the one that had suited them for 15 years, to one that, oh look, seems similar to the Mac. Yeah, that I can take offense to, because colors are arbitrarily chosen. But the concepts, not really.
Otherwise I hope you're all driving Fords, since GM, Toyota, BMW etc. are clearly knockoffs of the original with no innovation added.
Mechcozmo said:Alright, some fun with Photoshop aaaannnndddd....
Credit your sources, teacher always said.
umm Ok but by that logic apple needs to do it as well because apple did not come up with this idea. It was something Unix has had built in it since before apple and OSX. Apple took it from their. It something that need to be in for a while and it would slow down malware by a good margen. So I would redo you photo shop and give crieted to to Unix and then you need to do the same for apples. Of course there is a crap load of stuff apple takes and then claim as their own and then have them coming up with the idea.
I going to make a safe assumtion and going to take it very few of you really read the articacal at all. So you clear dont know all the stuff that was added. In there you can see the reason why MS started it own antispyware now and starting Antivirus. They are just going to intgerated the stuff into the OS. Bt the looks of it they are going to start implenting the techology call Microrebooting (they are calling it something diffent but I remeber reading about how it was being work on over 5 years ago. It not to a full microrebooting but their will be few restarts required when installing new stuff and updates.
I would not be suprised to see the same some where in the MS. but it pretty well buried under a lot of other crap (like the apple on it in the 30 pages of crap no one going to read) Apple being pretty vage on when they are doing it.Fukui said:
It never seems right when apple users cry fail when ever MS remotingly copies them and yet when apple blantly copies, steals they praise them or they defind apple and say they came up with it.