Its basically a Ipad Air 4th Gen with maybe some features removed (like Non laminated display, slower USB C speeds etc). I highly doubt they will retool this chassis to have a Touch ID button in the bottom Bezel like the current ipad 9, rather they will go with the current power button Touch ID. Hopefully it keeps its £329 price, but I suspect it will get a slight price increase. Either way will sell very well.
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Oh yes, I love wasting money on wireless headphones that need recharging all the time, connectivity issues and is complete e-waste when the battery fails after time.
Not any more redundant than any dedicated jack on any other device
(where you could theoretically convert one port to another with a dongle)
It's like saying the headphone jack on MacBooks is redundant because one could simply get a USB-C to 3.5mm dongle instead..
The headphone jack is over 50 years old, because it works. Headphones don't degrade or expire. You can plug in a pair of headphones from the 70s and they'll work with your modern device and still output good sound. Your wireless headphones all have an expiration date because of the batteries in them and the lack of an aux mode
No you can't. That's not lossless quality. That's just "less lossy."
No matter how much you develop wireless connection there's some things that cannot be eliminated, like battery degradation. Eventually your AirPods will no longer hold a charge and because of how they're designed the battery cannot be replaced. Meanwhile you can plug in a pair of AKGs from the 70s into your phone and they'll still output amazing sound
Since when the hell is a headphone jack "outdated?" Again, the jack is over 50 years old because it's timeless and works. Just plug it in and go. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
The hard facts being no headphone jack means they can easily sell AirPods making a lot of money.
Yes. I like having a solid connection and hifi quality. There's so many new things I can hear in a song through wired that I can't over wireless.
Again, why can't the iPad have a headphone jack when it has the space for it? We shouldn't need to use a dongle to restore something that never should've been cut in the first place.
I mean, it is just to be able to use a wired mic on my phone. And again, why should we need a dongle on our iPads when they're gonna be not moving much? If they cut the headphone jack from Macbooks are we gonna have this same conversation? Or what if they cut it from the Mac Mini/Studio/iMac?
Oh really? Let's test that theory by comparing the mics of the AirPods, AirPods Pros, and the old wired dirtybuds
You're strawmanning. 3.5 is widely used. 4.4 and 6.35 are specialty jacks used for very specific headphones.
So...you just proved more why there's zero reason to get rid of the headphone jack on the iPad
That's what people said about magsafe getting cut, and yet it still came back even for the Macbook Air.
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I'd hope so!
The entry level iPad, the iPhone SE and the 13" macbook pro are eyesores in the Apple lineup.
The entry level iPad, the iPhone SE and the 13" macbook pro are eyesores in the Apple lineup.
Keep in mind that a massive audience for this model is schools and education. I would imagine young kids would find it much easier to use a Home Button than swiping up, especially when a slight pause in the swipe can open multitasking and lead to more confusion, and some apps lock the home bar so you have to swipe twice.
Hear hear!
I really want Apple to always keep a home button model around.
The simplicity, ease of use and easy to understand nature of the home button and what happens when you press it is genius..
The game of "swipe roulette" as a replacement for the home button is very frustrating and confusing for a variety of user types/ages.
Yup. And I have an mbp16 from work and don’t use those ports. I have DisplayPort and SD on my Thunderbolt dock.
What you do with a docked laptop while connected to a variety of other peripherals is not justification for including (or not) ports on the machine itself.
It's of course nice flexibility, but if we followed that line of reasoning, we'd have machines that have nothing but one universal port and everything a user wants to do should be "adapted to with a dongle/hub".
It's simply a different discussion vs what are great dedicated ports to include on a device itself.
I agree that it’s a different discussion, I shouldn’t have engaged with his point about HDMI/SD in a conversation about an analog port.
The mainstream customer base LOVES the home button, so that a win for Apple. If they can keep the price hike minimal that will also be welcome.
Getting rid of the audio jack might not be so well received, but USB-C to audio jack adapters are cheap and readily available.
Getting rid of the audio jack might not be so well received, but USB-C to audio jack adapters are cheap and readily available.
The USB-C dongles are cheap. Poorly constructed cheap.
I briefly owned a Lenovo tablet.
I returned it as there was no FM radio as advertised.
It didn’t have a headphone jack.
I don’t have any Bluetooth items. Why?
They require charging and drain device batteries faster.
My iPad is from 2019. I have no issues with the home button, but, a larger screen instead would be great. The iPad Air isn’t much larger than the iPad.
I never thought about that. Is there any other Apple produced device that has a male lightning connector like the pencil that would be suddenly incompatible when they drop Lightning?
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I wouldn't replace a tried and true Apple product with a first-gen one.
Case in point: the MBA M2 overheating issues.
That's why I bought my wife's 11" iPP now. It'll be nice until it needs replacement, which won't be for YEARS.
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I doubt it, given AirPods sales have been pretty good for Apple.
That said, the MBs have a port still, so anything can happen in this new Jony Ive-less Apple era.
A USB port is a serial port… 🤦♂️
And I don’t think anybody loves dongles. Some people are fine with dongles. Others will use wireless earphones due to their convenience.
How rough are you with your adapters?
And sorry, but you only represent yourself, not everybody else.
I wouldn’t exactly expect an Android tablet from Nokia to be of high quality. Just saying…
You’re in denial then. Those are CAD files directly from Apple. That’s what it’s going to look like. 🤷♂️
The only thing you are “wasting” is your energy. Focus on improving your patience and stop obsessing over “e-waste” every time you say something online. Apple is able to recycle your AirPods.
That doesn’t even make any sense. Did you read their reply correctly?
You actually listen to that mentally ill Aussie? What are you, 15 years old?The headphone jack is over 50 years old, because it works. Headphones don't degrade or expire. You can plug in a pair of headphones from the 70s and they'll work with your modern device and still output good sound. Your wireless headphones all have an expiration date because of the batteries in them and the lack of an aux mode
No you can't. That's not lossless quality. That's just "less lossy."
No matter how much you develop wireless connection there's some things that cannot be eliminated, like battery degradation. Eventually your AirPods will no longer hold a charge and because of how they're designed the battery cannot be replaced. Meanwhile you can plug in a pair of AKGs from the 70s into your phone and they'll still output amazing sound
Since when the hell is a headphone jack "outdated?" Again, the jack is over 50 years old because it's timeless and works. Just plug it in and go. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
The hard facts being no headphone jack means they can easily sell AirPods making a lot of money.
Yes. I like having a solid connection and hifi quality. There's so many new things I can hear in a song through wired that I can't over wireless.
Again, why can't the iPad have a headphone jack when it has the space for it? We shouldn't need to use a dongle to restore something that never should've been cut in the first place.
I mean, it is just to be able to use a wired mic on my phone. And again, why should we need a dongle on our iPads when they're gonna be not moving much? If they cut the headphone jack from Macbooks are we gonna have this same conversation? Or what if they cut it from the Mac Mini/Studio/iMac?
Oh really? Let's test that theory by comparing the mics of the AirPods, AirPods Pros, and the old wired dirtybuds
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You're strawmanning. 3.5 is widely used. 4.4 and 6.35 are specialty jacks used for very specific headphones.
So...you just proved more why there's zero reason to get rid of the headphone jack on the iPad
That's what people said about magsafe getting cut, and yet it still came back even for the Macbook Air.
The mental gymnastics that some nerds have to go through… 🤣
I assume your wish will be granted.
People probably said the same thing about the colorful iMac, but they had the time period of the rip-offs completely reversed.
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Learn the art of patience and then consider purchasing a pair of Bluetooth earbuds.
Clickbait YouTubers really made that issue overblown. Did you own an M2 MacBook Air yourself and have overheating issues? I assume you purchased an M2 MacBook Air because you didn’t plan on doing anything intensive with it.
The MacBooks have a headphone jack because it fits and is more common to use than it would be on a mobile device.
The adapters are flimsy. I don't need them. They are patiently waiting until someday when I do.
I don't care to represent anyone else, but I'm not alone.
Insulting my choice of tablet is not necessary. Has everything I want less GPS.
It is better in some ways than my iPad. Even though my iPad was refurbished and cost $209, my Nokia T20 is just as functional and was on sale for $179.
Better than Amazon Fire 10. Better than Samsung Galaxy Tab A.
For the money I paid, better than iPad.
I don't care to represent anyone else, but I'm not alone.
Insulting my choice of tablet is not necessary. Has everything I want less GPS.
It is better in some ways than my iPad. Even though my iPad was refurbished and cost $209, my Nokia T20 is just as functional and was on sale for $179.
Better than Amazon Fire 10. Better than Samsung Galaxy Tab A.
For the money I paid, better than iPad.
I never wear earbuds. Never! On ear only. Why drop that kind of money when my hearing is poor. My JVC headphones were probably around $25.
and I don't get the logic. I didn't like the removal on the iPhone but why on the iPad,
in an effort to make it even thinner?
Well if you like your wired headphones and if you like to DJ then this port is essential.
But yes, I'll be buying the 9.