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Next gen MacBook Pro wishlist:

- 32GB Ram (as option in 15' Mbps) and 16 GB standard in 13` models
- Oled display
- 1 TB storage standard in their top tier models (13 & 15)
- More reliable keyboard
- Better battery life

Thats it :)
 
For me to buy one it will have to have [15"]:

6 core I7 CPU
Nvidia 1060 or decent Vega GPU
8 - 10 hour battery life whilst been used productively

would like :
Full support for TB3 eGPU with an Apple designed enclosure that is plug and play

I am ok with :

16gb RAM although 32gb is nice
I like the keyboard.......
Screen is fine for my use although higher res never not wanted.

This computer would be used for 3D design and visualisation together with all the other usual biz stuff.
 
Drop the corny keyboard and cheesy touchbar. Go full horizontal touch display with iOS keyboards & control surfaces, & fluid screen sharing between them, + Apple Pencil layer, or go home.

Bring back and update the 17" display model, and stick it in a MacBook Air case.
In fact put them all in MacBook Air cases.
Update MagSafe to use the three-dot connection found in the iPad pros.
Leave the anorexic design and wimpy hardware for the MacBook line.

And just because it's on my mind, Auto-Beowulf Cluster.
Plug your MBP into your iMac, and get an extended monitor out of the deal, but also share all hardware resources and processing power to make it a true Pro beast.

Do these things and the other things not because they are easy but because they are hard, Apple.
 
ThunderSkunk said:
Drop the corny keyboard and cheesy touchbar. Go full horizontal touch display with iOS keyboards & control surfaces, & fluid screen sharing between them, + Apple Pencil layer, or go home.

Bring back and update the 17" display model, and stick it in a MacBook Air case.
In fact put them all in MacBook Air cases.
Update MagSafe to use the three-dot connection found in the iPad pros.
Leave the anorexic design and wimpy hardware for the MacBook line.

And just because it's on my mind, Auto-Beowulf Cluster.
Plug your MBP into your iMac, and get an extended monitor out of the deal, but also share all hardware resources and processing power to make it a true Pro beast.

Do these things and the other things not because they are easy but because they are hard, Apple.
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If I wanted that I would just buy an iPad. I don't know about anyone else but if I am going to put keyboard on an iPad for me I may as well just buy a laptop.
 
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William Payne said:
If I wanted that I would just buy an iPad. I don't know about anyone else but if I am going to put keyboard on an iPad for me I may as well just buy a laptop.
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I wouldnt do that either, which is why I described the opposite of a keyboard on an ipad.
And you can buy an ipad, but you’ll only have a fraction of the hardware and none of the software of what I described.
 
- Same form factor (or thicker, but not wider or taller)
- Liquidmetal casing (I on't know why but :p)
- 13", DCI-P3, MicroLED display.
- Apple Pencil included in the box, compatible with the (huge) trackpad
- Face ID & better webcam
- 32GB RAM
- Quad-core i5 3.2GHz CPU with integrated graphics from AMD
- Reliable keyboard
- Wider screen in the Touchbar (no need for touch ID with faceID) allowing for more controls
- 4 USB-C connector
- 1 jack/optical connector
- SD Card slot
- 8/10 Hours battery life (for real)
- Revamped mac OS. It looks kind of old both in terms of design and functionality (even though it works right now)
- Bluetooth 5.0 with support for Lossless Hi-Fi codec such as LDAC.
- Wi-Fi AC
- 500GB SSD Storage
- Included 3 years warranty
- Apple T2 chip included
- Price arround 2500€, VAT included (2 951.2 U.S. dollars)

Never gonna happen :D
 
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leman said:
It is not technically possible to have 32GB DDR4 RAM in a contemporary Intel-based laptop without a severe hit to battery life. And battery life is the cornerstone of the MBP concept. I'm not really sure what is so difficult to understand here. Apple is not giving you 32GB RAM because they technically can't make a laptop that has the traditional DNA of the Mac laptop. If you want to complain about lack of development, complain to Intel.
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Yes it is possible. Virtually every manufacturer on the planet has done it except Apple!!!!!!!! Wake up!!!!
 
ThunderSkunk said:
...again, not an iPad... and a MacBook Air case is thicker... of forget it
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Hell no to a fully touch keyboard. One of the reasons why I choose to use a laptop is that I am able to type without having to look at the keyboard! And I have a feeling that's only possible with tactile feedback. Not to mention battery life would be abysmal.

It's an interesting concept for sure though.
 
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... don't forget the relatively high failure rate. That was a deal breaker for me.
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The keyboard on my 2016 was replaced three times under warranty because of failed keys. When I got it back from replacement the third time, I sold the stupid thing and bought a 2015. I'm so much happier now.
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leman said:
It is not technically possible to have 32GB DDR4 RAM in a contemporary Intel-based laptop without a severe hit to battery life. And battery life is the cornerstone of the MBP concept. I'm not really sure what is so difficult to understand here. Apple is not giving you 32GB RAM because they technically can't make a laptop that has the traditional DNA of the Mac laptop. If you want to complain about lack of development, complain to Intel.
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Sure it is. Just put a decent-sized battery in the machine. The current MBP generation makes SO MANY compromises in the name of thinness, it's ridiculous. Here's an idea, make it the same thickness as the generation before. That would let them put in a battery that gets great life, even with 32gb ram. It would also let them put a non-****** keyboard and the array of ports expected by "pro" users.

But no, the driving feature on all mac products, pro laptops included, is thinness.
 
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shaunp said:
Yes it is possible. Virtually every manufacturer on the planet has done it except Apple!!!!!!!! Wake up!!!!
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parsonsmike said:
Sure it is. Just put a decent-sized battery in the machine. The current MBP generation makes SO MANY compromises in the name of thinness, it's ridiculous. Here's an idea, make it the same thickness as the generation before. That would let them put in a battery that gets great life, even with 32gb ram.
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Guys, I somehow start getting a suspicion that you might have a reading disability. Did you even bother reading what I wrote? Or looking at the calculations? I realise that living in your own fantasy world where things are exactly what you think them to be is more convenient but wake up and do the math. You'll find all the links with power usage measurements, laptop power consumption etc. in my posts. Hint: 30% more battery capacity cannot compensate 60%+ higher power consumption.
 
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the 2015 15" has a 99.5 watt hour battery (the ceiling for being able to take it on a plane) and the 2017 model has a 76.0 watt hour battery so about 3/4 the capacity. If they returned to the 99.5 WH design, that should make up for a significant chunk of the extra power draw from the RAM. It would mean making the older design the highest end model though, so it probably won't happen.
 
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leman said:
Guys, I somehow start getting a suspicion that you might have a reading disability. Did you even bother reading what I wrote? Or looking at the calculations? I realise that living in your own fantasy world where things are exactly what you think them to be is more convenient but wake up and do the math. You'll find all the links with power usage measurements, laptop power consumption etc. in my posts. Hint: 30% more battery capacity cannot compensate 60%+ higher power consumption.
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Nobody cares about the sodding calculations. I'll take the hit on battery for the extra RAM. I know you won't, but apple already has you covered with their thin and crap laptops. I'd just like some choice in the product set so I can have one with more RAM. It's a simple as this. My requirements are different to yours, and once Apple had different products to cater for these different needs. Now they don't. It's not impossible for them to do you like you claim, as every PC manufacturer has done this. They all have products with decent battery life and support for 32GB. So your battery life argument is complete and utter rubbish, and I don't care what the maths says.
 
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shaunp said:
Nobody cares about the sodding calculations. I'll take the hit on battery for the extra RAM.
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I know you would. The problem is, Apple wouldn't. The MBP is by design a computer that (among others) attempts to offer maximal performance while maintaining a particular battery life goal. If a spec results in lower battery life, Apple simply won't do it. And thats why I'm saying that MBP is not a computer for you and any time when it was, is simply because of a coincidental overlap of your needs with that was technically doable back then.

shaunp said:
I know you won't, but apple already has you covered with their thin and crap laptops.
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Well, certainly better than Dell would with their throttling base-level (non-configurable) CPU and 2x2 WiFi ;)

shaunp said:
It's not impossible for them to do you like you claim, as every PC manufacturer has done this. They all have products with decent battery life and support for 32GB.
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Really? Show me one laptop with 32GB RAM that can last at least 7 hours in a third-party battery test. For your information, everyone who really cares about battery is using LPDDR3 these days. Or 15W CPUs. Or skips the HiDPI display. Or all of it.

shaunp said:
So your battery life argument is complete and utter rubbish, and I don't care what the maths says.
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Right. In another words "I don't care about the engineering part of the equation and how the things actually work, since I want something else". Thats the overall level of maturity expected from a Macrumors poster :D
 
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leman said:
I know you would. The problem is, Apple wouldn't. The MBP is by design a computer that (among others) attempts to offer maximal performance while maintaining a particular battery life goal. If a spec results in lower battery life, Apple simply won't do it. And thats why I'm saying that MBP is not a computer for you and any time when it was, is simply because of a coincidental overlap of your needs with that was technically doable back then.



Well, certainly better than Dell would with their throttling base-level (non-configurable) CPU and 2x2 WiFi ;)



Really? Show me one laptop with 32GB RAM that can last at least 7 hours in a third-party battery test. For your information, everyone who really cares about battery is using LPDDR3 these days. Or 15W CPUs. Or skips the HiDPI display. Or all of it.



Right. In another words "I don't care about the engineering part of the equation and how the things actually work, since I want something else". Thats the overall level of maturity expected from a Macrumors poster :D
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#blind!!!!
 
Let's see...

- Bring back USB Type A ports (having to use an adapter for something as trivial as connecting a USB drive is completely stupid)
- Bring back the MagSafe power connector
- Bring back a keyboard that has actual keyboard travel and doesn't feel like typing on an on-screen keyboard
- Move the 13" model to a higher end AMD Raven Ridge APU solution
- Get rid of the "Oooh!!! Look at us!! We're doing something unique"-gimmick that is the touch bar or at least sell 15" model without it
- Quit being so greedy and either lower your prices or make the standard SSD capacity 256GB on the 13" model and 512GB on the 15"
- Switch the internal SSD to some common standard like m.2 so users can replace the drive when it eventually dies at some point after you've stopped selling spare parts for the model
- Introduce a 32GB RAM option


Seriously, if you're going to make a machine with nothing but USB Type C ports before the standard really takes off in general purpose use, at least have the courtesy to include some adapters in the box on machines as expensive as those in the Macbook Pro line is.
 
SarcasticJoe said:
Bring back USB Type A ports (having to use an adapter for something as trivial as connecting a USB drive is completely stupid)
- Bring back the MagSafe power connector
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That's never going to happen. USB type A has gone the way of the Dodo (at least for apple) and in a sense as we get ready to flip the calendar to 2018 its time to just move on.

As for the MagSafe connector, while I was and continue to be a harsh critic over the loss of it, I understand the logic, why have a superfluous port taking up space. USB-C can handle charging and so they're moving on. They could have made the magnetic connection on the cable itself or something.
 
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256gb storage is pretty lean on a 2.5k 15” - I wonder if they will bump the storage at all? Maybe something along the lines of:

New entry “ntb” - $1,999 256gb
Mid tier TB - $2,399 384gb
Top stock - $2,799 512gb

I don’t know if they could fit 3x 128gb memory chips on the logic board (I’m guessing so as I doubt they could get 2TB without using several memory chips) but i think it’s possibly more likely than them just upping it to 512. Other manufacturers have started offering SSDs in that sort of capacity (mostly rounded down to 360gb, I’m guessing due to overprovisioning/ formatting).
 
Personally, love the current keyboard. Especially the fact that it's short travel and a distinct "click" sound.
TouchBar is great. TouchID is great.

What I'd like is 4-core CPU option for 13". 8GB/16GB RAM doesn't matter for me. Love USB-C and TB3 so current ports works great. Would be nice with FaceID option along with better FaceTime camera. Longer battery life is always nice. Pencil support for the trackpad.

So in a bulleted list:
  • Quad-core CPU option for 13"
  • 512GB SSD as standard
  • FaceID along with better FaceTime camera
  • Better battery life
  • Pencil support on trackpad
  • Along with the usual improvements in CPU, GPU and SSD speeds
 
When in 2018 can we expect the release of the new MBP? I was about to buy a 2017 MBP today, but after all these posts on keyboard issues, I would rather wait. I've already tried both 13" (2016) and 15" (2017) MBPtb to see which size is best. I did return them both, because of the keyboard issue. I don't mind the keyboard clicks (noise) when typing. I've decided to go for the 2018 15" MBPtb - but when?
 
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