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Next-Generation iMac: Quad-Core Processors? No Blu-Ray?

BRLawyer said:
Blu-Ray is a STILLBORN technology, how many times do I have to say it?

Apple is more than wise to steer clear from that ridiculous bag of hurt, as its added value and benefits are marginal, its costs high, its usefulness in computers close to nonexistent and its licensing+DRM schemes simply ludicrous.

Just add quad-core, a thinner enclosure if possible, a newer GPU, perhaps media reader ports and more default RAM/HD...nothing else is needed to what is already the best desktop lineup on Earth.

BLU-RAY IS DEAD. MS IS DEAD.
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Laughable and ridiculous on your part. You look foolish. Maybe you should tell the entire video editing community that Blu-ray is dead since that's what they burned their finished product to for distribution to the studios, commercial film companies, production companies, etc.
 
BRLawyer said:
Probably YOU don't know what it means, so here it is:

stillborn |ˈstilˌbôrn|
adjective
(of an infant) born dead.
• figurative (of a proposal or plan) having failed to develop or succeed; unrealized : the proposed wealth tax was stillborn.

That's what Blu-Damn-Ray is: a technology that FAILED TO SUCCEED, period.
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i dont know whether you are arguing blu-ray is stillborn? but blu-ray surely is a premium to DVD..? just like Apple products are a premium to their comparative products e.g. iMac/Dell Studio, MacBook Air/Adamo, iPod/Zune, iPhone/BlackBerry, MacBook (Pro)/Just About Every Other Laptop?
 
Blue ray won't find it's way into an iMac until the price of the media drops significantly. I'd expect it for authoring HD content in the rumored mac Pros in the spring.
 
jmpage2 said:
Laughable and ridiculous on your part. You look foolish. Maybe you should tell the entire video editing community that Blu-ray is dead since that's what they burned their finished product to for distribution to the studios, commercial film companies, production companies, etc.
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The "video editing community" doesn't "burn" anything, they create HD video on HD cameras, edit it on Macs (which have fully supported HD for ages) and have a billion different means of distributing that material to those concerned. To say Blu-Damn-Ray is necessary just because of its storage space is ludicrous...not to say that those that MAKE movies normally let others worry about media duplication or other less content-oriented tasks.

For those seeking more information, just search for a long post that I wrote here some months ago, dispelling ALL myths that some Blu-Damn-Ray fanboys continue to spread...mass streaming will come much before that ridiculously lobbied media format becomes "successful".
 
jaw04005 said:
Thank god you don’t make decisions for Apple. Otherwise we would have never had DVD (1999) or DVD-R (2002) drives in consumer Macs years before the bulk of the PC industry.

They were priced similarly to the current Blu-ray drives at the time they were introduced to the iMac line. In fact, Apple’s slot-loading DVD drive might have been one of the first in the industry. It was the first I’d ever heard of.
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Considering the alternative movie media at that time was VHS, I think DVD in the Mac was the best move.

Here we have DVD vs. BluRay on screens measuring 24" and less. What improvements in quality do you gain from BluRay compared to the EXTRA you pay for BluRay? Enjoy ripping 25-50 GB BluRay at 4x :)
 
NeverhadaPC said:
Considering the alternative movie media at that time was VHS, I think DVD in the Mac was the best move.

Here we have DVD vs. BluRay on screens measuring 24" and less. What improvements in quality do you gain from BluRay compared to the EXTRA you pay for BluRay? Enjoy ripping 25-50 GB BluRay at 4x :)
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Can you see the difference in these 2 pictures on you monitor?

DVD

Blu-ray

Thats the difference you get with Blu-ray.
 
BRLawyer said:
Probably YOU don't know what it means, so here it is:

stillborn |ˈstilˌbôrn|
adjective
(of an infant) born dead.
• figurative (of a proposal or plan) having failed to develop or succeed; unrealized : the proposed wealth tax was stillborn.

That's what Blu-Damn-Ray is: a technology that FAILED TO SUCCEED, period.
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Epic FAIL. It seems you are basically arguing against an optical drive with the ability to read discs with higher capacities, but for some reason want to stick with DVD drive on a new state of the art imac???? Isn't that a bizarre concept?

Also blue ray films will lok amazing on a 24" HD imac screen. Also as we all know a film on itunes costs something like £10.99 and a dvd is £3. Do you not see blu ray prices becoming that sort of price while itunes staying high?
 
I am hoping the low-end next-gen iMac:

  1. Will be $999 or less
  2. Considering the price drop, STILL give me better specs (meaning, I don't simply want a price drop for last year's technology)
 
NeverhadaPC said:
Considering the alternative movie media at that time was VHS, I think DVD in the Mac was the best move.

Here we have DVD vs. BluRay on screens measuring 24" and less. What improvements in quality do you gain from BluRay compared to the EXTRA you pay for BluRay? Enjoy ripping 25-50 GB BluRay at 4x :)
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That's the problem: people fail miserably to realize that the move VHS-DVD was ABSOLUTELY clear, whereas the move DVD-Blu-Ray is not only unjustified, it's insignificant.
 
BRLawyer said:
That's the problem: people fail miserably to realize that the move VHS-DVD was ABSOLUTELY clear, whereas the move DVD-Blu-Ray is not only unjustified, it's insignificant.
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You think this is insignificant? You think uncompressed audio is insignificant too?

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BRLawyer said:
That's the problem: people fail miserably to realize that the move VHS-DVD was ABSOLUTELY clear, whereas the move DVD-Blu-Ray is not only unjustified, it's insignificant.
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Again EPIC FAIL. Please look at this guys post and you will see the difference.


aygie said:
Can you see the difference in these 2 pictures on you monitor?

DVD

Blu-ray

Thats the difference you get with Blu-ray.
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I'm willing to let the blu-ray slide if only they put the Quads in the new iMacs.

But.....it would have been awesome to have both.
 
aygie said:
Can you see the difference in these 2 pictures on you monitor?

DVD

Blu-ray

Thats the difference you get with Blu-ray.
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HD image is better than DVD image - in fact a BIG difference. (Though there is a noticeable contrast difference as well - blue especially looks faced in DVD - which I did not expect to find). I understand your point that DVD < BluRay. I guess, since I have a nice HDTV + TrueHD 5.1 and I see no reason to sit at my desk at home and watch BluRays in stereo. Of course, each to his own. As long as the BluRay is optional and not mandatory (with price hike) I have NO problem
 
BRLawyer said:
That's the problem: people fail miserably to realize that the move VHS-DVD was ABSOLUTELY clear, whereas the move DVD-Blu-Ray is not only unjustified, it's insignificant.
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So untrue. On a large, high-def TV blu-ray movies look beautiful, notably better than DVD. I order them from Netflix all the time, and you can't compare. Maybe you're not watching them on the right kind of equipment.
 
BRLawyer said:
That's the problem: people fail miserably to realize that the move VHS-DVD was ABSOLUTELY clear, whereas the move DVD-Blu-Ray is not only unjustified, it's insignificant.
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I support BluRay and love the format on TV. I am just not willing to pay for it on a 24" computer screen.

BluRay belongs on TV - that is my motto in this "conflict" :)
 
NeverhadaPC said:
HD image is better than DVD image - in fact a BIG difference. (Though there is a noticeable contrast difference as well - blue especially looks faced in DVD - which I did not expect to find). I understand your point that DVD < BluRay. I guess, since I have a nice HDTV + TrueHD 5.1 and I see no reason to sit at my desk at home and watch BluRays in stereo. Of course, each to his own. As long as the BluRay is optional and not mandatory (with price hike) I have NO problem
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Thank you for acknowledging that.

The reason why Blu-ray is so important (IMO) is that we can get closer to the correct image of how films were meant to be seen, closer to the original masters.

From a filmakers perspective its almost retarded having one of the greatest editing programs (FCP) and no BD drive.

(Totally agree with you with it being optional). :)
 
NeverhadaPC said:
HD image is better than DVD image - in fact a BIG difference. (Though there is a noticeable contrast difference as well - blue especially looks faced in DVD - which I did not expect to find). I understand your point that DVD < BluRay. I guess, since I have a nice HDTV + TrueHD 5.1 and I see no reason to sit at my desk at home and watch BluRays in stereo. Of course, each to his own. As long as the BluRay is optional and not mandatory (with price hike) I have NO problem
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Unless your 5.1 speakers are set up perfectly and you are sitting in the "sweet spot" you will not be getting a surround sound experience as it was intended. In fact quality stereo speakers with uncompressed audio is probably a better option.
 
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bommai said:
I don't really care about bluray on a computer at this time. I have my PS3 in my home theater and it performs beautifully. Until there is a solution to easily rip bluray movies and put them on a server and be able to watch them on my home theater and it is also cheap enough and I am still able to get full 5.1/7.1 lossless PCM audio, then may be!!

At this time the iMac having bluray is not the answer!
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absolutely agree - well put.

but for me i prefer to have TV shows on my home server as i tend to re-watch those more than actual movies. but still, same point nonetheless.
 
bruinsrme said:
why would anyone want to watch a bluray on 24 inch screen? geez:rolleyes:
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When it's less than two feet away from your face, it's easy to see the limitations of regular DVDs.

Blu-Rays also look better than hd downloads.



But all I really want is some bitching fast quad core. It's gotta get good cinebench numbers or I'll start saving for a macpro.
 
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