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Next-Generation iPad With 1-Megapixel Rear Camera and Case Cover Proximity Sensor?
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I'm very surprised at those saying, "get a real camera" to take video. My sister was planning to get an iPad and she has two small children. I know she may often surf the internet on the iPad, and the kids may do something she wants to capture on video and that's why the iPad would be an ideal USER FRIENDLY (just like the iPhone is) video camera for in-home use. I understand it may look silly to use it in public, but I don't imagine that's where most people would use it. 1 megapixel would not illicit a very nice picture, and I would be disappointed if I though this rumor was true, but I just don't believe it is
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I'm very surprised at those saying, "get a real camera" to take video. My sister was planning to get an iPad and she has two small children. I know she may often surf the internet on the iPad, and the kids may do something she wants to capture on video and that's why the iPad would be an ideal USER FRIENDLY (just like the iPhone is) video camera for in-home use. I understand it may look silly to use it in public, but I don't imagine that's where most people would use it. 1 megapixel would not illicit a very nice picture, and I would be disappointed if I though this rumor was true, but I just don't believe it is
.I think it has been pointed out already, but there are two iPad 2 rumors that seemingly cannot coexist. If the iPad 2 has a retina display a 3.1 camera is required to use all of the pixels on the display when in camera mode. The main purpose I would think for a rear camera on an iPad would be for apps like augmented reality. Having a 1MP camera on a 3.1 Mp screen would be noticeably crappy looking. Either there's no iPad 2 retina display or the 1MP rumor is false.
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For most consumer cameras MP does not matter anymore - it is good enough either way and other components become more important - but those are cameras > 5MP ... 1MP just stinks, no matter how good the other components are.
Apple has been known to "hold back" sometimes, but tablets are going to be the new laptops in a few years IMO, and apple NEEDS to dominate early to keep Android & Windows tablets out in the coming years.
In a few years MAC OS X and iOS will merge (you can start to see that already with new MAC OS X betas..).
Anyways, we'll get the new G5/G8 (whatever they want to call it). The cameras. The extra memory (at least what the iphone 4 has...).
I'm not sure about the screen, but I think it'll probably stay the same.
USB No.
SD-reader....maybe.
This might not be a 3Gs to 4 jump, but it'll still be enough to keep those of us who "held out" happy.
Just why? Why not advise your sister to get an iPod Touch? Cheaper, better camera and easier to record with. Just as user friendly as the iPad/iPhone.I'm very surprised at those saying, "get a real camera" to take video. My sister was planning to get an iPad and she has two small children. I know she may often surf the internet on the iPad, and the kids may do something she wants to capture on video and that's why the iPad would be an ideal USER FRIENDLY (just like the iPhone is) video camera for in-home use. I understand it may look silly to use it in public, but I don't imagine that's where most people would use it. 1 megapixel would not illicit a very nice picture, and I would be disappointed if I though this rumor was true, but I just don't believe it is
iPad is not a camera/video recorder. Please accept this. If you could wi-fi or bluetooth live video back to the iPad from the iPhone/iTouch, then this would be much more effective as a feature.
Mega mega
Nothing "mega" about it. Agree that the camera will not be used for fine photos. But from a marketing standpoint 1MP is lame.
Nothing "mega" about it. Agree that the camera will not be used for fine photos. But from a marketing standpoint 1MP is lame.
That's why Apple's marketing team will more than likely refer to it as "HD capable" camera, just like they refer to the iPod touch's 0.7MP camera. You don't see them throwing around the 0.7MP number for that camera, yet people buy the iPod touch in droves. If they were basing it solely off the specs of that camera, no one would purchase it.
Just to clarify, even the current back camera on the iPod Touch can collect 720p VIDEO, which is just fine, even if played back on a large TV. The 1 MP camera would take very poor (by modern standards) still PICTURES. So in the scenario you describe above, it would do just fine. If she wanted to take portraits for the family Christmas card it wouldn't do very well.I'm very surprised at those saying, "get a real camera" to take video. My sister was planning to get an iPad and she has two small children. I know she may often surf the internet on the iPad, and the kids may do something she wants to capture on video and that's why the iPad would be an ideal USER FRIENDLY (just like the iPhone is) video camera for in-home use. I understand it may look silly to use it in public, but I don't imagine that's where most people would use it. 1 megapixel would not illicit a very nice picture, and I would be disappointed if I though this rumor was true, but I just don't believe it is
Some possible uses for the back camera, sorted by my best guess for frequency
[more common]
1) FaceTime show them what I'm seeing (video)
2) Virtual Reality, overlay info on top of live feed (video)
[less common]
Take some quick video of what is around you (video)
Take some quick pics of what is around you
For both of what I see as the most common uses, a 720p video input with descent framerate and passible lens would be fine. As it would for quick spur of the moment video. It would be be worse than almost any cell phone from the last five or more years to take still pictures with and so would be a real problem for users who wanted to use it to take high quality pics who didn't have a recent cell phone that they could pull out to use instead.
Which is to say, while better is better, for most (but NOT all) use cases I can think of, this would be usable as long as the lens was decent quality.
I could see someone (not me, but someone) setup the iPad as a HUGE viewfinder on a tripod, using software to apply filters, effects, and cropping 'live' while viewing the screen as a closer to final size view. For that user, the 1 MP camera would be a big fail where the iPhone 4's 5 MP camera and its wonderful lens/software quality would be much better however, if I was doing that kind of stuff I'd be looking to use a real camera to do it with, not an iPad, even if it had a 5 MP camera.
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Galaxy tab has a 5mp camera.
Xoom has a 5mp camera with flash.
LG optimus tab is rumoured to have a 5mp *with flash*? x2 for 3D pictures; also it's rumoured to be able to record 1080p.
Galaxy tab 2 is rumoured to have a 8mp *with flash* and 1080p vr.
The iPad 2 is rumoured to be able to take 1mp photos and record 720p and has no flash.
720p is good; 1080p is great.
5mp is a standard; 1mp is pathetic.
Taking 2D pics is a standard; 3D is cool (obviously, the iPad / device will need a 3D display).
Galaxy tab has a 5mp camera.
Xoom has a 5mp camera with flash.
LG optimus tab is rumoured to have a 5mp *with flash*? x2 for 3D pictures; also it's rumoured to be able to record 1080p.
Galaxy tab 2 is rumoured to have a 8mp *with flash* and 1080p vr.
The iPad 2 is rumoured to be able to take 1mp photos and record 720p and has no flash.
720p is good; 1080p is great.
5mp is a standard; 1mp is pathetic.
Taking 2D pics is a standard; 3D is cool (obviously, the iPad / device will need a 3D display).
OK, so now that the app store has hit 10 billion downloads, iOS 4.3 has been seeded twice to developers and is closer to getting ready, and it's almost the last week in january, how bout releasing the ipad 2 already apple?
apple has tons to brag about now at the event, so let's get the ball rolling. i'm sick of reading the same thing over and over rumor-wise about this damn device.
COME ON
apple has tons to brag about now at the event, so let's get the ball rolling. i'm sick of reading the same thing over and over rumor-wise about this damn device.
COME ON
It's not even that...
It's a line of text in a file in a non public build of the OS.
Plus that line is only the description so really could say anything as far as the operation of the camera is concerned.
Apple could well be stacking different build files with different nuggets like this to see which ones make it out.
I'm amazed how many people are so riled-up to comment about this topic - but have no idea what they're talking about.
Do you know how many megapixels a MacBook Pro iSight spits out? Probably not, because megapixels aren't marketing terms used to sell laptops - they're used to sell us on mobile devices. It's about 1.3mp - despite MacBook Pro displays being in excess of 1080 resolution.
720p video upsampled to retina display resolution would look no worse than a 720p YouTube clip in fullscreen mode... But it just kills me that people would even have the expectation of capturing video at retina-display resolution... Your highest-end Flip HD can't capture video at that resolution.
Anways, the iPad2 isn't being made out of unicorn hair and angel pubes - I can't wait to hear the waves of bellyaching that will come when we learn that there will be no retina display.
I am sooooo disappointed with the 'camera' on my ipod Touch! ! ! ! I can't get any kind of descent photo, even for web. It stinks and does NOT reflect a quality product that I expect from Apple. So the Touch ends up being an additional item in my purse as I still need to carry the phone AND the camera! With a descent 3mp camera on the Touch, I could have substituted for the purse camera. Too bad that it has soured my ipod Touch experience somewhat. I have even considered replacing it with something else, perhaps a used iphone without the phone contract which I can not pay for.
This Touch camera would not be usable for scanning purposes. Whereas a decent camera for the ipad would make a lot of sense for the business use of the ipad.
But I am not the one making decisions for Apple and it looks like I am not going to be a customer for the ipad either. So why listen to me?
This Touch camera would not be usable for scanning purposes. Whereas a decent camera for the ipad would make a lot of sense for the business use of the ipad.
But I am not the one making decisions for Apple and it looks like I am not going to be a customer for the ipad either. So why listen to me?
From what I'm hearing so far it sounds like iPad 2.0 is gonna be lame.
With the currently rumored specs, I will definitely not be buying this thing.
If Apple is leaking these rumors to stabilize iPad sales until an April iP2 release date, you're great evidence that their strategy is working.
I find it's always best to ignore rumors and unconditional Apple fanatics when it comes to things like this.
Personally, I will only buy the next iPad IF it has a good Camera. I WANT and NEED a good camera on something I plan to carry around with me. It's MY choice and MY decision to make. Stating the bleedin' obvious I know.
Personally, I will only buy the next iPad IF it has a good Camera. I WANT and NEED a good camera on something I plan to carry around with me. It's MY choice and MY decision to make. Stating the bleedin' obvious I know.
