Next Generation iPhone Battery Only Marginally Higher Capacity

[Reason077]

Jony Ive and Steve Jobs work on this project for two years so they can seemingly give us a slightly taller (but not wider) version of the iPhone 4/4S

Nope. Jony will have been too busy working on visionary, next generation products. Like the Apple TV, the iPhone nano, and the Apple anti-gravity personal transportation device.

The iPhone is just a cash cow for Apple, and for the new model they no doubt had some junior designers phone it in. Jony would have signed off on it, but he would have been too busy to lose much sleep over this one.

It's good enough, people! Quit whining about rumoured specs until you've seen the final device and made a rational comparison with the competition. If you still don't like it, Samsung will appreciate your custom.

 

[Zunjine]

I think the mods have to start setting some standards here. These forums are becoming utterly purile. Every other post is some idiot going on about what Jobs would or wouldn't do or whinging about all and sundry.

A good forum needs to stay on topic! That's why it seems like there are almost no worthwhile posts here anymore. People with something worth saying are hesitant to get involved among the trolls and the moaners and the idiots.

Come on, admins! Don't let these forums go the way of Engadget and all those other places where decent discussion goes to die.

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Nope. Jony will have been too busy working on visionary, next generation products. Like the Apple TV, the iPhone nano, and the Apple anti-gravity personal transportation device.

The iPhone is just a cash cow for Apple, and for the new model they no doubt had some junior designers phone it in. Jony would have signed off on it, but he would have been too busy to lose much sleep over this one.

It's good enough, people! Quit whining about rumoured specs until you've seen the final device and made a rational comparison with the competition. If you still don't like it, Samsung will appreciate your custom.

Like this one. I can't tell if this guys trolling or just an idiot. When you can't tell anymore then it's almost too late!

 

[Thex1138]

It's all about power management...

And efficiency..
The savings by having in-cell capacitor screen and refining when and how and how much battery is consumed are what matters to get the most from a battery.
It seems the trend is continuing. If the 3G/4G chipset power consumption is lower then the same battery life can be expected.
Major builds always add new features... this time it's NFC, Quad core... user experience.. Maps, Coupons...

If the best innovation and patent that Samstunk can come up with is a phone that emits perfume... then there's nothing to fear

 

[tuyylihk]

Let's get back to the battery.
Full of chinese... never mind that is my mother tongue.
But wait...why chinese?
Hum....A battery from Samsung made in China? Well I'm not sure where the battery comes from in the previous iPhone.
Also I'm not sure what APN stands for. Is it possible to have same APN with different battery?

 

[slattery69]

One things I always feel apple is great at is battery life. I don't own hundreds of appleroducts but what I do own all have fantastic battery life. So I'd bet the iPhone is on par with the 4s

 

[Steve121178]

aight apple, i don't care about how you change the phone's design, but if the next iPhone's battery is gonna suck more than my current 4S (which, is also horrible), then I will look for other phones.

Like what? Windows phone's are not great with battery juice and Android phones are appalling.

 

[JoEw]

I believe that this can't be the iPhone that steve worked so closely on... Sorry just can't. Regardless of all this logical evidence I will be keeping an open mind to what will be released on September 12th.

My theory about all these "leaks" is that they are actually the prototype that was about to be the iPhone 4s yet didn't make the cut for final production. Thoughts? Perhaps a double down on security tim said means leaking protype parts to throw everyone off? Would seem smart to me!

 

[SchneiderMan]

Calm down, Apple usually knows what they are doing with regards to design. They wouldn't release a new iPhone with a disastrous design. You'll probably like it once it's released...

Of course I will.

 

[jason2811]

That's why no matter what you think of Android phones I love my RAZR MAXX and it's 3,300 mAh battery. It goes and goes and goes.

EXACTLY! I was just about to post this. I have a 4S currently and its crazy to me that the Droid Razr Maxx is super thin AND has a 3300mah battery.

 

[Snookerman]

I've liked everything I've heard about the new iPhone so far. I like that it's taller, I like the bigger screen, I like the thinner bezels, I like the two colored metal back. But if Apple decides to make it even thinner and not only not improving the battery, but making it even worse, that's a deal breaker. I refuse to believe this! I don't think anyone would be so stupid to say "make it even thinner, I don't care if the battery is ****, I just want it super thin!"

 

[Pianoblack3]

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Dem keyboard gangsters

 

[JUiCEJamie]

I don't know the exact details of the specs between iPad2 and the new iPad. But, aren't those batteries the same size? Yet Apple managed to create a much superior battery in the later device?

Won't they just do the same for their next iPhone?

 

[Popeye206]

Liked it better when...

I really liked it better when we didn't know much at all about what's coming. With all the leaks of parts and such it really takes away the surprise during the product events.

I'm just saying.

 

[Pez555]

well, thats the deal breaker. Was on board for the longer screen and smaller parts only if there was a huge battery inside. Will evaluate other options now.

these posts make me laugh.

why dont you wait for the announcement first? how do you know the stats apple are able to get out of this battery?

 

[ChrisTX]

Steve Jobs would never have allowed this to happen.

Isn't he the one that was working on this device up until the day before his death? Apparently he did allow this to happen.

 

[ThatsMeRight]

Sarcasm aside, Apple doesn't upgrade the internals when there is an external design change, e.g. the iPhone 4, which is basically a 3GS with more RAM and a better screen / camera etc.

They do. The iPhone 4 had a faster (higher clocked) CPU with a different, better, architecture. iPhone 4 had more RAM. iPhone 4 had a better camera. iPhone 4 got 720p HD video recording. iPhone 4 had a second mic for noise cancellation. iPhone 4 got a front facing camera. iPhone 4 got a drastically better battery.

And all those new INTERNAL things, in a brand new design.

 

[Zunjine]

Apple has historically made a big deal out of long battery life in its portable devices. I think, if the battery is going to remain relatively small, this must indicate that the device will be very efficient.

We are getting to the point with smartphones where higher specs - more cores, better GPUs, more vRAM, are starting to show minimal returns. The 4S is significantly more powerful than the 4 but, when the most popular apps are messaging services, skype, Tiny Wings and a bunch of note taking and organisational apps, the difference rarely shows up to the end user. Even when you do play high end games, does anyone feel that the graphics in games like Infinity Blade are poor? Does Real Racing 2 look ugly to you? The current hardware still has lots of potential - Real Racing 3 looks amazing and that will be running on the hardware currently in the 4S and 3rd Gen iPad. There's no need to ramp things up even more - after all, this is still a smartphone, not a home console or a laptop. People don't need quad core CPUs to read e-books, play Angry Birds and watch YouTube clips. But a slimmer device with good battery life? That's something that we can all appreciate.

I think Apple's new iPhone will eschew faster, bigger and more powerful and, instead, opt for slimmer, lighter and more efficient. If you're looking for an iPhone you can boast to your friends about and compare GeekBench scores, this isn't the phone for you. Wait, what am I thinking, people who boast about GeekBench scores don't have any friends!

If we assume the new iPhone will carry the smaller, 32nm A5 chip and will include the lower powered IGZO screen and the new generation LTE chipsets, then it's reasonable to think that the battery life on this device will be better than on the 4S while increasing performance a modest amount within a smaller, lighter product. Think about it this way, Apple refused to have LTE early on precisely because the battery life would be badly impacted. They made the same choice about 3G on the first iPhone. Do you really think that same company would go ahead and design a device with terrible battery life? That just doesn't make sense.

 

[ixodes]

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You may not like it, but it's true. There's not much to this new iPhone except Apples predictable reduction in thickness. Obsessed as ever with making it thinner for bragging rights, not functionality. It's this kind of decision that makes me laugh. When I read "Apple values form over function, I laugh even harder.

Just think, if not wafer thin, Apple could offer the best battery life by a very wide margin. Now _that_ would merit the hype they lavish on their products.

 

[blackcrayon]

The next iPhone won't be getting an A6, it will be getting an underclocked A5X, much like what Apple did with the 4S and 4. In which case, there will be no CPU upgrade in the next iPhone, only a speed bump for the integrated GPU.

My bet is on the one after this, that is the one which will have a true quad-core CPU and possibly 8-core GPU. But I'm just guessing.

You think it will need/have room for that huge chip with massive GPU to support only a small increase in resolution? I guess there will be a die shrink which will save size and power but I wouldn't be surprised if it is not an A5X but something newer in the SoC department (A6? A5Z?).

 

[Rokkus76]

I remember when people used to wait until a product was actually announced before reacting to it. They even used to actually use the thing before passing judgment. Simpler times.

I also remember when a product was very difficult to be seen before launch... now, everything leaks, from Home button to screen... cases and docks. And you can really bet this will be the iPhone we'll see in september.

 

[Reason077]

You think it will need/have room for that huge chip with massive GPU to support only a small increase in resolution? I guess there will be a die shrink which will save size and power but I wouldn't be surprised if it is not an A5X but something newer in the SoC department (A6? A5Z?).

I don't think they'll put a quad-core GPU (A5X) in this one. The iPad needs that because of its huge number of pixels, but the iPhone's needs are more modest.

My bet is a 32nm A5 variant with reduced power requirements and a moderate speed up compared to the 4S.

 

[Parkin Pig]

Money talks

Only when people stop buying the products Apple want to sell, will Apple start to make the products people really want to buy.

I'd be happy for my 4s to be 1 or 2mm thicker if it meant superior battery life.
I want a charging cable long enough to reach from a power socket to a table top.
I want to use the 'killer' features of iOS that require location services, wi-fi etc, without them being 'battery killer' features.

But I bought the 4s Apple wanted to sell me, so what do they care?

Each generation of iPhone adds a bit more wow factor, but also adds more compromise and frustration. For me, it seems that the negatives are growing at a greater rate than the positives, and I think Apple need to realise that.

 

[ArmCortexA8]

Why hasn't anyone else noticed the new battery on the right says "MFR Samsung - Importer Apple", so this would point to a Samsung manufactured battery, and also proven by the Serial Number / Part Number: SB2237219 where SB would be short for Samsung. Also interesting, manufactured June 2012, only two months ago.

Most Apple batteries are Manufactured by SMP.

 

[Zunjine]

I also remember when a product was very difficult to be seen before launch... now, everything leaks, from Home button to screen... cases and docks. And you can really bet this will be the iPhone we'll see in september.

I don't doubt that what we have seen will be part of the new iPhone, but that doesn't mean we have seen the new iPhone.

Remember when the 4 was stolen? Everyone "knew" what the phone was going to be like yet none of us really appreciated it until the launch. That's when we found out about all the technology that had gone into it. That's when we found out what the value of the technology was and why it was designed just so.

You can no more fully appreciate the quality of a product from an incomplete spec sheet and some badly lit pictures of unfinished shells than you can appreciate the quality of a great acting perfromance by reading the script and watching some badly compressed pirated pre-production scenes.

We may know lots of details about the product but until we see the complete product, finished and loaded up with the software, we really can't judge if this is a good iPhone or not. But that doesn't stop the childish whinging. I've had to add a dozen people to my ignore list in the last week because I get so annoyed at having to filter through all their moaning to find the odd useful post.

 

[Macboy Pro]

Unfortunately I think Apple is stuck on "thin" and not performance. Thin provides a "WOW" factor, which sells (for now).