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Next Generation iPhone Battery Only Marginally Higher Capacity

Regarding the battery, I think it's a game about moving targets, they just need to perform slightly better than their next competitor. We all want to see the best product delivered, but when it comes down to it the iPhone still performs better than most Android devices and IMHO that's the metric that Apple is using when they are preparing to release the next model.
 
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It will have to hold at least the same battery life as the 4S or that would be a step backwards and be a nightmare of bad press for apple.
 
numlock said:
i am not putting it all on jobs´s death. i was contemplating saying that they knew he was dying and should be prepared but didnt include that. all reports from the time said they had products and ideas well into the future.

i wasnt happy with everything when jobs was around but to me it felt more cohesive. their disrespect towards the desktops and various apps certainly didnt start they day he died.

since they already had retina in the iphone then i find it to be natural evolution to get it into the ipad and the mbp.
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But that's the thing - real, big innovation don't come along every day. You could argue that Apple has had maybe 4 big innovative product launches in the the 25 years or so they've been around.

The first desktop PC with a GUI, the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad. Everything else has been incremental or small innovations within an existing category. Real innovation is rare and Apple has had three big innovative products in the last decade. Three products that have defined or redefined product categries.
 
Macrumors really is the worst. I keep several Apple sites under my radar and often see the same story reported differently across the web.

Example, 9to5mac reports this story for what it is: nothing unexpected. The battery in next iPhone will (gasp) improve....not dramatically, of course, but enough to maintain the established battery life (yeah, you know that horrible battery life that every macrumors twerp complains about but yet every person in the world has no problem with)

Macrumors posts like one of its typical whiny geek members: omg the battery won't improve enough it's going to suck you won't even be able to use your new iPhone!!
 
PigDog said:
Is it possible that this battery might be for the new itouch?
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Isn't that the one they're doing for the pre-teen market? "iTouchKids" I know my old neighbour has the T-Shirt already, he loves wearing it to the play park...
 
numlock said:
i am not putting it all on jobs´s death. i was contemplating saying that they knew he was dying and should be prepared but didnt include that. all reports from the time said they had products and ideas well into the future.

i wasnt happy with everything when jobs was around but to me it felt more cohesive. their disrespect towards the desktops and various apps certainly didnt start they day he died.

since they already had retina in the iphone then i find it to be natural evolution to get it into the ipad and the mbp.
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If you believe any of what you stated, not only do you need help, but you're beyond it.
 
To all those who are panicking:

Keep in mind that there have been die-shrinks in semiconductors since the 4/4s, and also power management technology has improved. I wouldn't be surprised if battery life weren't at least as good as the 4S.

Even the iPad 2's battery life recently improved due to a die-shrink on the A5 CPU. Technology marches forward; we can do more things with the same amount of power.

Even LEDs for the backlight have probably gotten more efficient.
 
Mr. Gates said:
Well it would seem the whole phone is a marginal upgrade :rolleyes:
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Pretty much the same comment detractors have made since iPhone 3G, yet, the evolutionary leap iPhones have made in 5 years of existence would suggest otherwise.

Regardless, every iPhone iteration has outsold the other. So marginal or not, the consumer desirability still exists. People are not bored yet, which is what one would expect if it was only a "marginal" upgrade every 18 months.
 
numlock said:
those were released by apple computers this is a forum for apple the mobile device company.


I know right.. they should take out the "mac" out of "mac rumors" they should call it "ios rumors", "iphone rumors", or just "apple mobiles rumors" if this is mac rumors where are the macs that are being rumored, none thats right.
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JS82712 said:
aight apple, i don't care about how you change the phone's design, but if the next iPhone's battery is gonna suck more than my current 4S (which, is also horrible), then I will look for other phones. :mad:
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Good luck with that. My recommendation: Samsung SCH-R311 (my work phone) - Battery life: 1 week at least. Now, it's not a smartphone though. If you go Android, you will have even less battery life unless you (have a brick or) take extreme measures like animated background off, brightness down, bluetooth off, wireless off, etc. - or in other words: Turn it into a dumbphone. I recently switched from iPhone 4 to 4S and even though it might use some more battery, I barely see it. It is good with my use for 2 days. Have an android at home, that one would go one day (practically new, 2 months useage).
 
Don't want to overblow this but the battery, if legitimate, could be a big deal.

The battery shown is 3.8V. That's a non standard voltage. Almost all mobile device batteries are 3.7V. This is true for the iPad 3, iPad 2, previous iPhones and flagship android phones like the HTC One X. I could only find one exception, the droid bionic which is also 3.8V.

Why does it even matter? Well, all else constant, power increases with the square of voltage. So, you'd use 5% more with 3.8V versus 3.7V. So, it seems very deliberate. Now, HTC One X's S4 chip uses the same LTE radio this one might, so the radio is out as a culprit. Galaxy Nexus has NFC and uses 3.7V.

The screen may be new, but it seems unlikely to require a higher voltage given the iPad 3 doesn't need it with its monster spec'ed screen and this screen is to be lower power.

I also don't think a design win of anything other than an essential component would need 3.8V. So, it may be some super essential chip to the new design, including a new SoC. If it was a SoC, it would seem to be completely new, else it would use 3.7V.

Again, could be nothing, but I'm expecting something interesting.

edit: Could also be related to battery chemistry change. Change as a result of making battery slimmer, new supplier. New battery may be longer lasting or quicker charging.

edit 2: probably a battery chemistry change. Must be quicker charger, cooler, safer or some improvement.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4910/motorola-droid-bionic-review-dual-core-with-4g-lte/2

Update: A source reached out to us and let us know that the Motorola Bionic's 3.8 V battery is in fact using a new alternative high voltage chemistry, and is not simply an overcharged Lithium Ion battery. This same battery will be used in the just-announced Motorola Atrix 2 as well. Note that the battery name includes an H (eg HW4X) to denote the use of these high voltage battery chemistries. This new chemistry also has similar cycle life as existing 3.7 V nominal batteries, and has been in the works for several years.
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Can any apple history buffs tell me if Apple has ever put out misleading prototypes to throw us off?
 
I don't really care. I imagine it'll be on par with the 4/4S. I doubt they'd release it if it wasn't at least on par. As far as LTE, I don't really care. My 3G tests around 3.5 - 5 Mbps. The idea of my Facebook feed or a website opening a few seconds faster - I just don't care, so I'd probably keep that feature off anyway as it wouldn't be worth the massive battery life hit for me.
 
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