Debatable statements. More MP != better quality. It appears as if they increased the size of the sensor, as more MP with same sensor size actually means less quality in the end.
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Next Generation iPhone to Use 5-Megapixel Camera?
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Debatable statements. More MP != better quality. It appears as if they increased the size of the sensor, as more MP with same sensor size actually means less quality in the end.
Measurbators.
RE Megapixel Myth.
MEASURBATORS. I love it. It is like horsepower. 800 HP will not get you twice the performance as 400 HP.
RE Megapixel Myth.
MEASURBATORS. I love it. It is like horsepower. 800 HP will not get you twice the performance as 400 HP.
I have a recent Sony 10MP pocket camera that takes acceptable pictures. (As opposed to the sometimes-good-in-bright-light from my iPhone 3G.)
When I want to take good pictures, I reach for my old 3MP Nikon Coolpix 990. I've taken some awesome pictures with that camera, and have never felt that I needed more pixels.
It isn't just the number of pixels, it is the quality, and, what you do with the pixels. The current iPhone camera does an extremely lousy job of handling high-contrast situations- my other camera phone does much better with fewer pixels. Also, the iPhone camera is just too extremely wide-angle. I'm hoping the new iPhone camera is a serious effort to take better point-and-shoot pictures.
One thing I do extremely like about the iPhone camera is the built-in GPS-based location tagging.
One thing I do extremely like about the iPhone camera is the built-in GPS-based location tagging.
I thought Gizmodo disassembled the phone. They've had it for one week and didn't manage to figure out what sort of camera components it has??
This is what I always said to my friends when they wanted to get a new camera... Megapixel is not the main thing, the main thing that we should concern is the lens type such as aperture & image sensor & ISO performance...
The MP of the camera isn't the major issue for me. It is the flash and more importantly, the quality of the video that will attract me to the next gen iPhone. I take photos and videos of the kids all the time with. My current 3GS, but have to get out my main HD camera when it is a special occassion. The difference between the 2 is startling as one would expect. I want that gap to he smaller. If it is then I'll get one, otherwise my current phone is good enough for me.
Nokia N8 with 1/1.9" sensor and Carl Zeiss optics just proved you wrong. The pictures are gorgeous. The video quality is even better.
Exactly. Someone needs to slap anyone mentioning the 'megapixel myth' without them understanding it's a naive argument and the N8 proves it.
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010...xel-sample-photos-shot-on-nokia-n8-untouched/
I just checked out this sample video from a Nokia N8. AMAZING!
http://vimeo.com/11266224
I doubt this years iPhone will come close to this, but it shows what is now possible in a mobile phone. Cool.
Claim:
More megapixels does not produce a better image.
Rebuttal:
Average phone camera takes mediocre photos
Nokia phone camera has 12MP
Nokia phone camera takes better photos than average phone camera
Therefore, more megapixels = better image
Do you see something missing here? Do you see some possible piece of logic missing that makes your argument irrational?
Here's another example, that is as logically sound as yours:
Premise: All dogs have 4 legs
Premise: My cat has 4 legs
Conclusion: My cat is a dog
Just in case it's still not clear: The Nokia takes better photos, but it is not because it has more megapixels.
LOL. Nice improvement, while other phones are getting close to replacing real cameras.
Like the HTC Incredible's 8 megapixel wonder, about which Wired says:
"The 8-megapixel camera with LED flash performs so well, we abandoned our trusty Canon point-and-shoot in favor of the Incredible's photo and video-capturing skills."
http://www.wired.com/reviews/product/pr_htc_incredible
And about the Incredible's combination of Android OS 2.1 and Sense, Engadget says:
"To say that this UI is competitive with something like iPhone OS 3.1 (or 4 for that matter), or Palm's webOS is an understatement; in many ways it's superior to what Apple and Palm are offering.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/droid-incredible-review/
And the Incredible does Flash.
Ah, it is so tempting to dump my 3GS....
Like the HTC Incredible's 8 megapixel wonder, about which Wired says:
"The 8-megapixel camera with LED flash performs so well, we abandoned our trusty Canon point-and-shoot in favor of the Incredible's photo and video-capturing skills."
http://www.wired.com/reviews/product/pr_htc_incredible
And about the Incredible's combination of Android OS 2.1 and Sense, Engadget says:
"To say that this UI is competitive with something like iPhone OS 3.1 (or 4 for that matter), or Palm's webOS is an understatement; in many ways it's superior to what Apple and Palm are offering.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/droid-incredible-review/
And the Incredible does Flash.
Ah, it is so tempting to dump my 3GS....
I couldn't agree more. This is not a statement of opinion. Let's take a real world example: my daughter has a 12 MP canon camera (the waterproof shockproof one). My main stills camera is an 8MP Canon EOS 350D; my brother in law also has a 350D (with kit lens). I bought a GBP 400 Sigma lens. When comparing shots on all 3 cameras, the photos taken by mine are better my a spectacular margin.
The reality is that I could view a photo on my 1080p TV and it will only display just over 2MP. Therefore the difference between a good photo and a bad one is not pixels but sharpness and Bokeh (background blur). Therefore we are not talking MPs here, but glass quality and image processing algorithms. The Nokia takes amazing footage, but it could do that with a 5MP CMOS sensor if all the other components are spot on.
Now the question is: does Apple realise that the camera on phones is now no longer about mediocre quality. We are all now used to our converged phones, mail clients, web browsers, note takers, Sat navs, diaries, etc. The only device that still has to be taken out and about on occasions where quality really matters are cameras. Apple upgrading the screen or slightly improving this or that won't make the difference. The difference has to be the device that the iPhone does not yet completely do away with.
Ceteris paribus arguments are even more useless in technology than they are in economics, other factors will not remain the same, there is advancement in all areas and to remain competitive a company must not only run, it must run faster than other companies.
WRONG! READ!
I said unnecessary an Megapixel count for the sensor/lens causes noise, and according to those samples pictures, it does indeed have noise. Look at the parts with Uniform color, at 100% zoom you can clearly see noise above what is considered JPEG artifact. Not to mention it looks slightly blurry at 100%.
Meanwhile, here in the real world, we don't look pictures at 100%. We look pictures at, say, 1920x1080 pixels, or at 12x18". The most important thing is what is in the picture. After that the second most important thing is how it looks. Technical details at 100%? No-one cares except for few pixel-peepers.
