The touchbar MBP should end up being a retro collectible, like the cube or lamp macs.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Next-Generation MacBook Pro Models With M2 Pro and M2 Max Chips Reportedly 'Delayed Once Again'
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
The touchbar MBP should end up being a retro collectible, like the cube or lamp macs.
I like the idea of it, just not enough to actually buy a Mac that has one. Especially since it's now only available on the worst value Mac there is.
If the current 14" and 16" models came with it as an option, I wonder how many people would choose it. Especially if it came at a price premium.
It seems like Apple takes a bit of the game console strategy of counting on the cost to produce the hardware decreasing over time, while still selling it for the same price.
I learned my lesson the hard way that the only time Apple hardware is worth even close to what they're selling it for is within the first few months of release. Apple's own trade in values will back that up. They seem to pretty consistently lower trade-in values at the 3 month point after release.
The comment sections has been so hostile lately, it's depressing. Not long ago Apple literally turned the PC market upside down with M1 and the competition still hasn't caught up. Where's the Dell high performant fanless laptop with all day battery life? Where's Lenovo's thin and silent laptop with desktop level performance and all day battery life? Mac Studio literally fits under the monitor and smokes most high end PCs in anything other than gaming.
Apple is not feeling any pressure because all the competition is doing is telling empty promises and delivering more and more power hungry processos as if the world had endless resources. AMD fanboys needs to disappear from here.
Apple is not feeling any pressure because all the competition is doing is telling empty promises and delivering more and more power hungry processos as if the world had endless resources. AMD fanboys needs to disappear from here.
People expect macs to compete with 1,000 watt systems with an i9 and a 4090.
If you repeat the same rumor numerous times that doesn’t make it more likely. This has reached cry wolf status, it’s even questionable it happens at 18 months.
Yea it all depends on what you wan't. If you want silence and coolness, then Mac. If you want phenomenal cosmic power while you burn your legs and cry about your $3k electric bill, then PC
This forum is a cesspool of obsessive Apple haters who set themselves up reading baseless rumors on the daily and take out their frustrations here when they don't end up happening. They expect a perfect world where supply chain issues, the pandemic, laws and regulations affecting big corp, a recession, and tensions in China doesn't exist.
I mean really, THIS.
I don't know why everyone is so excited about M2 Pro/Max when M1 Pro/Max are blazingly fast for most use cases. Who is crushing the M1Pro/Max to the extent that a 20-30% boost would make a difference to their lives? Of those, who needs that power on the go vs. getting an M1 Ultra? Why is everyone screaming for more power??
How much of that is because Mac Rumors pundits were right about the designs, and how much is simply because we're moving from a period in which consumers bought a ton of tech for working from home or keeping themselves amused during lockdown, into a period where people's wallets are being clobbered by the increasing cost of living (not to mention the credit bills notched up during the pandemic)?
I get the impression that a lot of tech companies had a windfall during the pandemic and are now acting all surprised when sales drop back to normal levels (if not below).
Also, Apple's plans almost certainly got badly disrupted by recent history - we don't know the details because Apple are not known for washing their dirty laundry in public.
Yes, but what have they done for us in the last 6 months?
I'm sure the transition and the releases would have been better if we didn't have COVID and all the lockdowns in China. China is a mess with COVID at the moment and lifting the lockdown, is just going to make it worse.
It wasn’t the design. There were massive bugs and issues. Camera issue is the biggest one. 5 minute test from Apple would have caught it.How much of that is because Mac Rumors pundits were right about the designs, and how much is simply because we're moving from a period in which consumers bought a ton of tech for working from home or keeping themselves amused during lockdown, into a period where people's wallets are being clobbered by the increasing cost of living (not to mention the credit bills notched up during the pandemic)?
I get the impression that a lot of tech companies had a windfall during the pandemic and are now acting all surprised when sales drop back to normal levels (if not below).
Also, Apple's plans almost certainly got badly disrupted by recent history - we don't know the details because Apple are not known for washing their dirty laundry in public.
Yes, but what have they done for us in the last 6 months?
Agree - and the expectation is a bit silly because M2Pro/Max will be a 20-30% spec. bump. Apple has clearly stated that they are moving the ball in the direction of performance/watt and not overall performance. They are focusing on portable systems that are powerful, quiet, and deliver decent battery life.
They are not looking to outbench the latest mega-monster gaming rig.
And still studio ultra does compete.
I have an i9 with a 4090 and a mac studio Ultra - in most situations, I use the Studio.
It is only in GPU rendering and some 3D apps where the PC is much better. Some of this is due to software optimisation only.
The PC is loud whereas the studio silent.
Also a huge amount of heat is produced by the PC when rendering.
nope, he still is, based on my experiences buying macs and pcs over the last few years.
Yep I agree. I don’t have a 40 series but I do have a 3080 Ti. And even my 16” MacBook Pro M1 Max does a better job at some things. But people cling to benchmark numbers and even if Intel is 1 point higher Apple is doomed.
Should have said I use a 14" max too. I am more impressed with the laptop than the Studio, given the size. Very impressive.
Why do people who own M1 Macs feel the need to chime in every time and say we don't need any further hardware upgrades? The upgrades aren't targeted at you, it's for the people who have ~5 year old machines and want the latest and greatest so they have the longest support and keep up with demanding tasks in the future. They don't want to buy old machines that have been on the market for over a year with no changes or price drops.
As someone who chose not to wait based upon Apple store staff who said the M2s would be an incremental improvement - not a monumental one - and purchased my 14MBP for a MASSIVE discount sale in late October, I am beginning to look like a genius.
It just proves to me that one should buy what they need, and stop worrying about factors outside your control.
It just proves to me that one should buy what they need, and stop worrying about factors outside your control.
LOL my 14MBP is a steal even now, nothing comes within $900 of it.
