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Next iPad with Smaller Bezel, Flat Back, and Wide-Range Speaker?
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A lot of people seem to be asking for "edge to edge glass" as a feature, which people are misunderstanding as "edge to edge screens". It is not the same, the glass of the screen on the iPhone 4, iMac and 27" Cinema Display is "edge to edge" - it has no metallic bezel around it, just the black framing. On the other hand the iPod Touch, iPhones 2g, 3g and 3Gs iPad, MacBook Pro (glossy screen) and 24" Cinema display have a minimal metallic (chrome or matte aluminium) bezel as well as the black glass. The MacBook Air does not have a glass screen at all, and the glossyness of the glass on matte MacBook Pros has been removed.
I hope this serves to inform people of what is meant by "edge to edge glass" and I would like to add that I put myself in the camp of edge to edge glass looking better than the minimal bezels found in other products.
I hope this serves to inform people of what is meant by "edge to edge glass" and I would like to add that I put myself in the camp of edge to edge glass looking better than the minimal bezels found in other products.
Conspiracy Theory...
I'm really beginning to think these rumors are coming from competitors desperate to slow down Apple's own "March to the Sea". Their business models have been burnt to the ground, their inventories sacked and pillaged. So get out those rumors to try and get people to delay their purchases while feverishly trying to get a product, any product, on the shelves. General William Tecumseh Sherman, err I mean Steve Jobs, is bearing down on you and he takes no prisoners.
I'm really beginning to think these rumors are coming from competitors desperate to slow down Apple's own "March to the Sea". Their business models have been burnt to the ground, their inventories sacked and pillaged. So get out those rumors to try and get people to delay their purchases while feverishly trying to get a product, any product, on the shelves. General William Tecumseh Sherman, err I mean Steve Jobs, is bearing down on you and he takes no prisoners.
Apple has previously announced updates for various iPod models, and Apple TV in January, but they don't typically ship the next day.
If Apple announces iPad 2 in January, it would probably be mid-January at the earliest to ship mid-February at the earliest.
Apple has increasingly updated products in its retail channels at the very beginning of a quarter -- I suspect to get good quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year comparisons for reporting purposes, which would tend to make the iPad 2 launch on April 1. (But I hope it's sooner.)
I don't think it looks cool, but it's functional, so I like it. A smaller bezel would make it harder to hold.
Have a comment/feedback on the original post.
"The outer plastic bezel surrounding the LCD screen of the iPad was seen as excessively large by some. "
This is a mis--information. I wonder if the writer has actually got his/her hands on a real iPad.
The bezel is not made by plastic. It is metal.
Besides the comment about the excessively large bezel is also nonsense if you actually use the iPad. Probably the black portion of the glass can be slightly reduced to shrink the footprint, the black portion of the glass serves a good handle for gripping the iPad. It also makes rotating the the iPad a bit easier.
"The outer plastic bezel surrounding the LCD screen of the iPad was seen as excessively large by some. "
This is a mis--information. I wonder if the writer has actually got his/her hands on a real iPad.
The bezel is not made by plastic. It is metal.
Besides the comment about the excessively large bezel is also nonsense if you actually use the iPad. Probably the black portion of the glass can be slightly reduced to shrink the footprint, the black portion of the glass serves a good handle for gripping the iPad. It also makes rotating the the iPad a bit easier.
I don't own an Apple TV so does anyone know whether it can stream to an iPad? If not, I see this happening very soon. Imagine you're chilling in your bedroom (that doesn't have a TV) and you want to watch the latest episode of the Office.
For that reason, I think the new iPad resolution will be equivalent to 720p or 1080p for TVs. If it doesn't happen this time, it has to happen by the next generation.
For that reason, I think the new iPad resolution will be equivalent to 720p or 1080p for TVs. If it doesn't happen this time, it has to happen by the next generation.
I thought the curved back is needed to hold the batteries. In order to flatten the back you would need to make thinner and wider batteries.
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Oh god here comes the wave of new iPad haters.
"oh foohie! Golly gosh darnit! Why did apple change the look of the iPad!"
Its the same people who thought the iPhone 4 was ugly and then the 3G for using a plastic back.
"golly gee - if it has cameras then I'm not buying it! It's so ugly!"
Grow up and be a real fanboy like myself.
Innovation is good. Change is good. Now shut
Oh god here comes the wave of new iPad haters.
"oh foohie! Golly gosh darnit! Why did apple change the look of the iPad!"
Its the same people who thought the iPhone 4 was ugly and then the 3G for using a plastic back.
"golly gee - if it has cameras then I'm not buying it! It's so ugly!"
Grow up and be a real fanboy like myself.
Innovation is good. Change is good. Now shut
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U mean a higher resolution screen
Why must we succum to these stupid apple marketing tactics.
bluush said:
U mean a higher resolution screen
Why must we succum to these stupid apple marketing tactics.
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I think the update will be like the second apple tv.... Even more popular then the first. Much more for the money as well.
I think the update will be like the second apple tv.... Even more popular then the first. Much more for the money as well.
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And apparently the design snobs on the forum didn't think the leaked iPhone 4 bezel was real either.
"Omg how is there a seam!?!??! Apple doesn't do seams!!!!!! Must be fake!"
Nannynannypoopoo
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And apparently the design snobs on the forum didn't think the leaked iPhone 4 bezel was real either.
"Omg how is there a seam!?!??! Apple doesn't do seams!!!!!! Must be fake!"
Nannynannypoopoo
Right, I noticed that too with the comments — people talking about two entirely different things.
My only argument for including a metal edge would be for durability. One of our iPod touches was dropped onto concrete, and survived with only a bit of a dent to the corner. If it had been edge-to-edge glass, the story might have ended very differently.
I for one do not mind the the bezel. It leave room for my portfolio case to wrap around the ipad more - giving it better protection and not slide out.
Wide range speaker? Would be nice for when I am in a small classroom situation, i would not have to carry external speakers with me (I have an ultra portable projector that does not have an internal speaker. And speakers in projectors are usually mono and not all that loud enough for a larger class room / lecture hall). But larger lecture halls usually have some type of sound equipment already in them.
Wide range speaker? Would be nice for when I am in a small classroom situation, i would not have to carry external speakers with me (I have an ultra portable projector that does not have an internal speaker. And speakers in projectors are usually mono and not all that loud enough for a larger class room / lecture hall). But larger lecture halls usually have some type of sound equipment already in them.
So picking it up from the table with one hand is more important to you than actually being able to use it on a table? To each their own I guess.
Besides, Apple could, if they wanted to, make the majority of the back flat, so that it doesn't rock around when placed on a table, but taper the outer edge enough that it doesn't suction to the desk.
I hope the bezel’s not too much smaller—it’s just wide enough for a thumb already. To make it smaller, weight matters most and thinness second. But the width and height serves a grip function.
I was sold on the theory of the Air-style port hatch for that big hole, but a larger speaker makes more sense. So—USB or SD will probably remain optional, it seems.
https://forums.macrumors.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11611861
I agree—one-handed pickup is one thing I liked most about my first-gen Air. But I assume "flat" means like the current Touch: mostly flat, not 100% squared off. So there could still be an edge you can grab by, yet it won’t rock on the surface like the current iPad and older iPhones/iPods would.
The mockup looks like an old PowerBook lid. It should look more like the new Touch I expect. (But probably aluminum, not chrome, for scratch-resistance. For that matter, I think it’s high time the iPods lost the chrome as well. It looks great—at first!)
I take the report with salt but it’s mostly plausible.
I was sold on the theory of the Air-style port hatch for that big hole, but a larger speaker makes more sense. So—USB or SD will probably remain optional, it seems.
https://forums.macrumors.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11611861
I agree—one-handed pickup is one thing I liked most about my first-gen Air. But I assume "flat" means like the current Touch: mostly flat, not 100% squared off. So there could still be an edge you can grab by, yet it won’t rock on the surface like the current iPad and older iPhones/iPods would.
The mockup looks like an old PowerBook lid. It should look more like the new Touch I expect. (But probably aluminum, not chrome, for scratch-resistance. For that matter, I think it’s high time the iPods lost the chrome as well. It looks great—at first!)
I take the report with salt but it’s mostly plausible.
I hate the look of the white plastic back. Make it aluminium!!!!
Isn't that some company's snap on case. Not the actual iPad.
As for the whole lay on a desk. I don't see where curved or flat makes a difference since for many folks it isn't that useable at that angle so they get a stand or a case that angles it for typing anyway
One. It is a rendering. I wouldn't trust it to be to scale.
Two. Jobs and boys apparently already shot down the whole iPad mini notion. It ain't happenning.
How about for all those folks that know that something better is sure to come soon so they gav Little Johnny a gift card to use when it happens.
Plus they would be launching a real product while the other teams are at CES showing their prototypes
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And depending on the timing, managers are very good about waving it because of a new product. When one asks nicely. Or at least here in Los Angeles they are. You just have to be within th adjusted return period
Lol. Funny. I wonder how many folk that haven't picked up an iPad will fall for that.
They are talking about the black frame around the actual screen
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The iPad needs IPS because it's often held at extreme angles... try playing a video, and having several people watch at the same time while the iPad is resting on a tabletop. Or playing a game like multi-pong.
This is one area where Apple product design is in a completely different league compared to almost any other company.
When you compare this to the existing Android tablets, it really puts them to shame... even this completely panderingly pro-Android comparison mentions how the iPad screen is better than the best Android tablet:
http://phonedeals.knowyourmobile.com/pages/ipadvssamsunggalaxytab
(their comparison is
This is what iPad should have been and hopefully will be for iPad 2
Oh you sexy thing. I'd tap..I mean buy that