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Next iPhone Said to Have Even Better IP68-Rated Water Resistance

DaPizzaMan said:
This whole "water resistance" is meaningless if Apple will not stand by their product and replace it because of water damage, in my opinion. Until they do that, I won't be testing out the water resistance.
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The logic behind this please?

Everyone would then dunk their phones under water when they felt like getting a replacement for free if Apple covered water damage in their limited warranty

If someone got a nasty dent on their phone due to dropping it and wanted a replacement, they could just simply leave their phone in water over night then complain to Apple about the water getting inside and yeah... People would abuse the **** out of it
 
All I know is, Apple is making it easier going forward to keep my 6s without any regret. I am contemplating an iPad Pro 2 12 inch, but I am seriously wondering if I need it.
 
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alanlau007 said:
Agree. And it's possible that some jackass open up the sim tray, inject water into the phone, and go to Apple demanding a replacement everyday.

I think Apple should package the iPhone in some sort of special liquid pack to make people feel confident about it's water resistance ability.
When people unbox their new iPhone, and if the phone works right out of the box, then good seal.
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IP 68 is submerged in up to 1.5m deep water for up to 30 minutes and IP 67 is submerged in 15cm to 1m deep water for up to 30 minutes, so I'm not sure that kind of packaging would work.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I haven't read the entire thread, but there are people complaining about an increased water resistance? Like the phone will be more water resistant than it is now? And that is bad because?
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The whole water resistance argument is almost just as bad as the removal of the 3.5 Jack on here. It's a complete debacle that turns people angry. I'm all for more water resistance, but it won't ruin my day if someone doesn't understand my point on here. Unreal.
 
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i68 isn't that much better than i67 , its still not waterproof nor will Apple back it in its Warranty
What we need are some dynamic revolutionary features for the iphone8 to keep this thing alive.
 
IP68 is a personal insurance policy not a supplier insurance policy. If you want a good rating, look up IP69K. The highest rating.
 
DaIfoneboss said:
The logic behind this please?

Everyone would then dunk their phones under water when they felt like getting a replacement for free if Apple covered water damage in their limited warranty

If someone got a nasty dent on their phone due to dropping it and wanted a replacement, they could just simply leave their phone in water over night then complain to Apple about the water getting inside and yeah... People would abuse the **** out of it
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If there was any external damage, then water damage would not be coverered so no rorting from that.
But not hard to put a phone on some string and dunk it in 2m of water i guess.
But on balance, it does seem strange to offer water resistance but not cover it.
Also in the real world, almost all phones will be just fine and nothing will happen to them.
 
ryanarr said:
Good start. Now what about wireless charging? I use my Galaxy S7 in the bathtub all the time, but it can't charge on a wire until the USB port fully dries (can take hours). Wireless charging fixes this issue. Also a great way to increase the longevity of the phone by decreasing wear on the port.
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I just want to say that I've never heard of a lightning port die from wear
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I haven't read the entire thread, but there are people complaining about an increased water resistance? Like the phone will be more water resistant than it is now? And that is bad because?
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People complain because they expect Apple to cover user stupidity. Water Resistance is a great feature if it ultimately means my phone is less likely to die if it gets wet. Probably wouldn't be a terrible idea though for Apple to make it blatantly clear that they won't cover water damage under standard warranty when someone is buying a phone.
 
Matthew.H said:
Water resistance is hardly a feature when it's not covered under warranty. Not worth advertising water resistance and annoying customers who's phones fail due to water ingress and they only find out that the warranty is voided when taking the phone in for service.
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+1. It is so true. There is a thread covering this issue.
("iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions with a rating of IP67 under IEC standard 60529. Splash, water, and dust resistance are not permanent conditions and resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions. Liquid damage not covered under warranty" (Apple official website)).
 
PsykX said:
It's not meant to be a feature customers "test"...
Out of curiosity, did you "test" the air bags in your car ?
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https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2027403/#post-24190137

That's a terrible comparison. What I mean is that I would never take my phone out in the rain or underwater like in the commercial where a guy bikes in the rain with his phone out because I more than likely will damage my phone. Meanwhile, that advertisement shows no harm done to the phone, which means they encourage you to try it out in such a way without any worry for the repercussions.
 
nwcs said:
Water resistance is nice -- especially when you have a toddler in your house. However I still want a 4" phone and won't buy another larger than 4" phone. Update the iPhone SE, Apple! Make that part of your "next iPhone" lineup.
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There really aren't that many people who want a small phone packed with features. You do and so does others on MR but if it was that popular of an idea Apple would keep the 4 inch phone updated in the fall.
I fall in the group of people who want an updated Mac mini every couple years, but we aren't significant enough to matter either.
 
Mac 128 said:
Possibly. The Lightning port is eventually going away, and not being replaced by a USB-C port either. The last opening in the iPhone will likely be the sim card tray if Apple is unable to persuade carriers to migrate toward software sims, and make international roaming rates reasonable. But the SIM tray is the easiest to waterproof, so not as critical as a port that's exposed to the exterior, with moving parts, and requires multiple connects/disconnects daily.

The Lightning port could go as early as the next iPhone if the rumors are true that contactless wireless charging is coming. There will still be a physical port for hardware resets and headphones, but it will be of the magnetic inductive variety like the SmartConnector, or Apple Watch. Whether this happens on the next iPhone, or in 2-3 years depends solely on that rumor being true. Apple may decide to remove the Lightning port on the new flagship Plus model, keeping an iPhone 7s around for another year before it removes the ports from iPhones altogether.
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I am looking at a USB-C in front of me and have a hard time believing Apple would replace lightning with something physically larger. No idea what they will do but don't think USB-C would come to the phone.
 
fuchsdh said:
The whole point is really not to test it, it's that if the worst happens your phone might not be bricked. People deliberately testing the limits of water resistance of their $600 computer are fools. We'd say the same thing with someone seeing how durable the casing is and when it'll break. You... just don't do that stuff, if you want your phone to last.
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Come on now. When I buy a new car the first thing I do is test out the crumple zones and air bags. Only a complete imbecile would drive a car with untested safety equipment. Oh I also make sure the baby seat is thoroughly tested.

Piece of mind is important to me.
 
DaIfoneboss said:
No company replaces their water resistant devices if customers device messes up from water. Itll never happen, Samsung doesnt do it, no one does..
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False. Rolex does it. You buy a Rolex Sub, in 4 years you send it to their OTS because there is water in its interior or has been ruined by water and they take care of it for free. And then increase your warranty for 2 years. But then, Rolex is a real high end products company, not a magic products company. Rolex is waterproof, apple is vaporware, sounds related but not the same.
 
asdfasdfasdfasdfa said:
False. Rolex does it. You buy a Rolex Sub, in 4 years you send it to their OTS because there is water in its interior or has been ruined by water and they take care of it for free. And then probably increase your warranty. But then, Rolex is a real high end products company, not a magic products company. Rolex is waterproof, apple is vaporware, sounds related but not the same.
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Great comparison, a watch which costs $10K that does nothing except tell time plus with a personal electronic device that is a companion to my iPhone. That $10K watch should have a decent warranty.
 
I7guy said:
Great comparison, a watch which costs $10K that does nothing except tell time plus with a personal electronic device that is a companion to my iPhone. That $10K watch should have a decent warranty.
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I'll tell you how the thing works:

Rolexes, being an hermetic capsule that could contain whatever system, be it electronic if they wanted or mechanical, and can be bought from 3400 euros, being made from the beginning (foundries) to the end by first world employees in a country with some of the highest salaries in the world, selling low quantities can afford to give you 5 years warranty and waterproof warranty.

Apple sells zillions of stuff made by ragged people in third world countries, most near or over the 1000€ mark, containing some chinese and korean components, can not afford to give you more than 1 year warranty, and gives you no waterproof warranty. And you applaud. You're simply ridiculous, that's it.

Casio gives you waterproof warranty, for God's sake, in their G-Shock line, and include barometer, altimeter, fatometer, and tons of other sensors and systems, powered by solar panels, for 180 USD. Apple is just a bean counting company with abducted customers.
 
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Well in that case someone should rescue those poor abducted costumers. Somewhere there's a theater show that has to dress it's performers in anachronistic costumes!

And that's a shame if there ever was one.
 
Mefisto said:
Well in that case someone should rescue those poor abducted costumers. Somewhere there's a theater show that has to dress it's performers in anachronistic costumes!

And that's a shame if there ever was one.
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In Finland it wouldn't matter since anyway there is no taste for clothing or autochthonous design companies so you wouldn't notice. You better worry about reindeers, suicides and that stuff, and leave tailoring to others.
 
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