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Next iPhone Screen Resolution Confirmed at 960x640
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They are important to you... Most of what you just listed above sounds pretty damn annoying and obnoxious..
Proving my initial point, almost exactly. The Zune HD was called that because it had HD Radio and could output HD video to a TV. But because its screen resolution wasn't technically "HD", everyone on here just ripped it to shreds. OH, but now Apple might do the same? Well, that's different. LOL!!!
- Microsoft device with HD in the name? Laughed at, mocked and ridiculed.
- Apple device with HD possibly in the name? Best thing ever, redefining what HD means.
Thanks man [/highfive]
Wow!Looks like you are really butthurt over insults to your precious Zune!
To quote you:"Sad,really."
So you're saying I'm relatively stupid compared to you when I'm just 16? I was referring to the zoomed in pic of the Nexus One's sub pixel layout. It's just a picture of what you can see in the microscope. Your bogus claim about the camera sensor's limitation is negated by the microscope's lens.
Not my ace in the hole. Prove the points in red please. I want exact figures, not a fanboy's over and/or underestimated guess.
Froyo was JUST released. iPhone OS 3.1.3 has been around for months, and 3.x for almost a year. You can use your songs for ringtones/alarms but I think it only works with songs you've purchased from iTunes due to licensing/rights issues. But the feature is there. Android's weather app icon and clock icon doesn't change with the info (dynamically) either. No the icon itself, but the widget does do that. Apples and oranges.
2G users can either jailbreak and get a Cydia app like Cycorder or go to the App Store and get an app. A lot of them are free and some with effects and other little features cost money. Just because it's not in the default OS doesn't mean the App Store doesn't have an app for it.
Popular does make it better. If it's better, then why don't people buy it? Why do people chose a totally inferior (according to you, iPhone 2G you keep mentioning) 3 year old product over a couple of days old OS (Android Froyo)?
Just recently, Android is selling more, compared to an ONE YEAR OLD product and that's only domestically. That's not impressive given the time and product cycle of the iPhone. It's still getting it's ass handed over to them with worldwide sales. Worldwide market > US market. I don't know how much money Android (including Droid Does and others) commercials cost versus iPhone commercials so I won't comment on that.
200,000+ apps gives you dramatically more choice than just 50,000+. Fact is, there are better iPhone apps than Android ones, overall. Yes, in some cases Android apps are better, but OVERALL iPhone apps are of better quality.
Vibration settings aren't basic. And dynamic icons aren't essential. Neither Android or iPhone OS have dynamic app icons. Widgets, Android has but they aren't the same as an icon. Globally, iPhone is owning Android. And the funny thing is, the iPhone 3GS is ONE YEAR OLD versus the recent Nexus One (>200,00 sales domestically in the US), Droid, and the other 10+ Android phones. Quality not quantity. In this case, divide and conquer does NOT work. iPhone > Android FTW!
OMG!MILLIONS of people are unhappy with their iPhones and crying out for relief from the iPhone OS's horrible problems?I'm selling my stock Tuesday when the market opens!Thanks for the heads up!
But seriously,You have a phone you enjoy.Do you seriously have nothing better to do than pick fights online with people who happen to enjoy a different phone?
But do go on.It's quite hilarious.
I think you're attributing too much of that to the name. Its name was mocked like just about any product release, including iPod and iPad jokes.
'Redefining' implies an existing definition. It was dumb to call the Zune HD, and it is equally dumb to call the next iPhone HD. Neither of them broke any rules, though.
I have a Kitchenaid mixer with "HD" in the name, and it doesn't matter, because HD doesn't mean high definition all the time. Sometimes it means heavy duty, or high density, or hard drive, or homeopathic doctor, or nothing at all. Even if it means 'high definition' it doesn't necessarily refer to HD video--there are 'HD' audio and image formats as well.
You don't say!
Perhaps you should read the context before commenting. Perhaps then you'd notice that the discussion was with regard to HDTV definitions and avoid looking foolish.
Point taken.But I don't think they should be disposable either.I still use my 3GiPod.Are you saying I should not expect to be able to read the screen?I gave away my 1st gen iPhone,and it's still being used today.
Besides,others have posted much better reasons in this thread why it's unrealistic to expect OLED in an iPhone at this time.So,no,I'm not disappointed that it's LED.I'm very happy it doesn't at this time.
I've read all the posts and it looks like the discussion is the definition of HD as it applies to the iPhone.why the heck anyone even mentioned TV is beyond me.It could not be more irrelevant.I would call THAT foolish.
All this AndroidOS to iPhone OS debating is getting old.
People like what they like, what's the point in comparing every minuscule detail such as the weather icon not changing? I wanted that icon to be dynamic when i had my iPhone 3g but was it a deal breaker? Not by any means.
I went from my iPhone 3g to the Nexus back in January. I loved my iPhone, it worked great, and it was fun when I jailbroke the thing... But jailbreaking slowed it down waaaay to much. The phone did what i needed it to do. It never crashed, it just worked.
Since I've had the nexus though, i see myself customizing it somehow every single day. It took me 3 months to finally decide on a homescreen layout! I've went from 3 screen and 3 widgets to 7 screens and 15 widgets. That's what Android is good for - customization. I've tinkered with it so much that i've had my fair share of reboots, but those are once in a blue moon nowadays thanks to cyanogen.
i find myself visiting macrumors to find out more info on the iphone 4g. The look of it is slick, and the screen which will be better in sunlight is a BIG appeal to me. I'm waiting for WWDC (aren't we all!), to finally make my decision if i'm gonna ditch android and come back to iPhone. I'm hoping the 4.0 OS jailbreak will be beneficial, because the speed of this phone will definitely handle the jailbreak just fine.
Rambled on. My bad.
People like what they like, what's the point in comparing every minuscule detail such as the weather icon not changing? I wanted that icon to be dynamic when i had my iPhone 3g but was it a deal breaker? Not by any means.
I went from my iPhone 3g to the Nexus back in January. I loved my iPhone, it worked great, and it was fun when I jailbroke the thing... But jailbreaking slowed it down waaaay to much. The phone did what i needed it to do. It never crashed, it just worked.
Since I've had the nexus though, i see myself customizing it somehow every single day. It took me 3 months to finally decide on a homescreen layout! I've went from 3 screen and 3 widgets to 7 screens and 15 widgets. That's what Android is good for - customization. I've tinkered with it so much that i've had my fair share of reboots, but those are once in a blue moon nowadays thanks to cyanogen.
i find myself visiting macrumors to find out more info on the iphone 4g. The look of it is slick, and the screen which will be better in sunlight is a BIG appeal to me. I'm waiting for WWDC (aren't we all!), to finally make my decision if i'm gonna ditch android and come back to iPhone. I'm hoping the 4.0 OS jailbreak will be beneficial, because the speed of this phone will definitely handle the jailbreak just fine.
Rambled on. My bad.
I think out of anyone, you've made the most thought-out and logistical points in this thread (including this one). However, if Apple does call their new phone "iPhone HD" (which we don't even know to be the case), and the most major development is the 960x640 screen, it does sorta imply a connection between the two. I don't think anyone looking at buying an "iPhone HD with new hi-res screen" is going to be thinking the "HD" stands for "heavy duty," "hard drive," or "homeopathic doctor." So while certainly the label of "HD" is loose and can mean many things, perception and implied definition is still important. And I think part of the problem is that we've applied it to so many new technologies lately (the radio thing is the most obvious one), that it begins to dilute the significance for all of these products.
I agree that calling it the iPhone HD would be incredibly stupid, but I think it's even worse that even the definition of "high definition" itself has been incredibly eroded. It was never intended to be a substitute for "premium" or "next generation" or "cutting edge" as an adjective.
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I'm not saying that Apple should release an iphone or ipad in true HD.
First of all, the iPad would be terrible in HD. HD 1080p or 720p also means that it's widescreen, and the iPad would be terrible to use and hold if it were more rectangle shaped and less square shaped like it is now.
Well gee, let's see... iTunes is a huge part of Apple's business, they push "HD" video content on all of their devices, and even sell a product called "Apple TV." Not sure why you'd think that HD and the iPhone as it relates to TV would be considered "irrelevant." I'm curious what definition of HD you're using?
I guess your outlook proves my earlier point of the definition becoming completely eroded...
You didn't read my post you quoted in the first place. It was right in front of you:
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That was a discussion about whether the iPhone's resolution was HD in the same context as an HDTV. HD video resolution when talking about video displays is a natural result. The iPhone display is not an HD video monitor because it lacks the requisite number of pixels. That's all there is to it.
Calling it the "iPhone HD" doesn't mean that they're claiming it has an HD video-capable display, which would be dumb, because it isn't. That doesn't mean calling it the iPhone HD is "wrong," because 'HD' on its own doesn't mean anything.
Wait...so if we wanna use apps we have the now on our current phones there going to appear blurry/pixelated? And to get a nice sharp crisp lookin app we'll need to buy new apps with the HD title like ipad? That sucks! All the developers should be made to update their apps to the proper resolution of thr current iphone and if we decide to buy it then it should be compatible with both iphone/ipad! Its just getting confusing nowand who wants to pay for two apps which are essentially the same app ?
If a resolution is exactly doubled in both directions (but stays the same physical size) and then displays a pixel-doubled image at the old resolution, then 1 'doubled' pixel (2x2 pixels) will be the same size and in the same location as on the old screen.
In a nutshell, old apps will look the same on the new iPhone as they do of the current generation. Newer apps written for the new iPhone will look amazingly crisp.
And in regards to your confusion, when in the AppStore read the bit where it says "Requirements" and and see what models are listed and compare that to what you have
But that's the connotation they would be invoking in people's minds (intentionally, if they call it that). This entire thread is proof of that.
My god, a company famous for its great advertising and marketing is using a widespread marketing technique??
Stop the presses!
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Sure, greater resolution is always good, however I was mainly referring to the 16x9 form factor.
If profits are the only thing that matter, then yes, Apple has had absolutely great marketing in the last decade.My god, a company famous for its great advertising and marketing is using a widespread marketing technique??
nice, but to further extend your point.. it's irrelevant what the "technical" definition of HD is... really. If the damn display is of significant resolution for its' size then it's HD. PERIOD. 1080p on a 3.5" display will literally look like 960x640 (please don't refer me to Gruber's article... I've read it and he's right.. but his article is literally for text only and not video). The current iPhones display video at a significant resolution higher than most 720p TV's if our standard is the size of the screen. The only significant moniker we should be worried about is if the iPhone can OUTPUT 1080p ( to a TV) / not display it, natively.