The SE today is the best iPhone IMO. I went from a 12 pro back down to an SE just because the pro was crazy expensive and not easy to fit in my pocket. SE is great size, great value, and way cheaper to maintain. Screen replacement cost on an SE is $130 compare to a 12 pro that is $280
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Next iPhone SE to Feature 4.7-Inch Display, 2023 Version to Have Hole Punch Full Screen Design
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Yeah I understand the rationale and logical explanation from an economic standpoint. But I’m actually talking about their design language and positioning for their devices in general, and also rumors of apple implementing this to their non-SE line up in the future.
It‘s a little bit difficult to put it into exact wordings, but you know the SE is an iPhone because of the two 2010 era forehead and home button, and you know you’re holding the iPhone X/12 because of the (ugly) notch.
The recent rumors that we saw regarding the implementation of a hole punch design felt odd and out of place for some reason, at least to me, because Apple is known for keeping things the way they are for only slight improvements like we will be getting on the upcoming 13 (the narrower notch), or they do it away completely when they find a new way of implementing it (TouchID ->FaceID shift for example).
But there’s no deny that the hole punch design would be a way for them to cut costs though.
I would totally be down with hole punch. We can have true full screen media again without borders! (granted, with a hole punch, but that's relatively nothing.)
Disagree. I’m on the yearly upgrade program but if the next iPhone doesn’t have Face ID I’m keeping my 12 Pro. I get that there are customers who prefer Touch ID but it seems the majority of the arguments for getting rid of Face ID are cosmetic.
Nobody?
The hole-punch display is going to be okay
The Honor View 20 gives us an early look at what will become the dominant design element of phones in 2019.
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This phone’s screen is an LCD that measures 6.4 inches diagonally and has a resolution of 2310 x 1080. Honor’s done some clever engineering to create a cutout in an LCD, which is a trickier task than doing the same with an OLED panel.
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I hate faceID, Having to pick up your phone off your desk to check messages, etc. It's highly inconvenient. This new se design is AWESOME. NO garbage notch, No garbage faceID. full screen, 3 cameras, and small with touch ID. I may stay with iPhone if this comes to fruition.
There are MANY use cases where touchID is superior than farce ID. Keeping your phone on your desk and just touching the sensor to unlock to check messages, having your phone in a dock in your car just touch the sensor and change your song or what not, Apple pay works way better with it touch the sensor while it's in your pocket and bam your done. having to freaking double click the "power" button then stick the phone in your face. Wearing polarized sunglasses screws up the faceID sensors so theres another no go situation. FarceID is a inferior biometric.
As a photographer, I think the camera array on the iPhone is the second best I have ever used. But, if they could find the group who designed the Nokia lumia 1020 camera system, hire them, I would agree 100 percent. the 1020 has the best camera for image quality I have ever used.
You are conflating the two products. The updated SE coming in 2022 will look just like today's model.
The new model alleged to be coming in 2023 will eliminate the home button and the large top and bottom bezels. But, because it will also adopt a 6.1" screen, it will not be a small device as you had hypothesized in your first post.
If this rumor holds, the Mini is unlikely to replace the SE. Instead, it sounds like the third generation SE will adopt the XR/11 form factor, likely with under screen Touch ID instead of Face ID.
If rumors are true, I see this model having the in-screen TouchID, not via power button, even for the iPhone SE model.
The iPhone Mini is part of the flagship iPhone line-up. Why would a flagship iPhone replace the iPhone SE, a lower end bargain priced phone?
Hole punch just tells me how desperate phone companies are at trying to fool customers into thinking full screen phones are here. They aren’t here until there is no notch or hole punch or anything. And I don’t see the tech necessary for that happening very soon, not as long as there is a front facing camera and especially Face ID. I guess if people really want that tiny extra real estate at the expense of permanent black objects on the screen, then go wild. But for me, I’d rather you give me the biggest full rectangle screen you actually have the technology to make.
Hole punch isn’t bad but I think it looks way better when it’s centered, like it is on the Galaxy S21 series.
Today's flagship is tomorrow's budget model. Eventually, assuming it remains in the lineup (which isn't guaranteed) the iPhone 12 Mini will cycle down the price ladder, reaching a $499 price point. Following that, it could be a candidate to become the basis of an SE model.The iPhone Mini is part of the flagship iPhone line-up. Why would a flagship iPhone replace the iPhone SE, a lower end bargain priced phone?
Theoretically, that could still happen, but it would not be before the "SE 4", meaning not until later half of this decade. However, if the "SE 3" adopts a 6.1" screen as this latest rumor suggests, that would seem to make this possibility less likely. Instead, it would perhaps be more likely that the standard sized iPhone 12 form factor would get the nod as it's successor instead.
All of this is pure speculation of course, and anything can happen between now and then.
In what way? Where is an iPhone behind in terms of usable and secure tech? Furthermore, most of the tech in Chinese devices is from IP theft.
It cost $29 to replace the screen on my iPhone 12 Pro Max. $130 ouch
I don’t know his track record, but it all comes down to reliability compared to other leakers. None are perfect. Even Apple themselves are sometimes wrong lol (AirPower).