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Not to mention that Snow Leopard will be a HUGE memory space taken up on the iPhone!!! lulz
Looks like things are shaping up for the "iPhone HD". View, record, and edit HD video on your phone. Apple can easily bump up the screen resolution to near 720p quality, introduce resolution independence/scaling for backwards compatibility, and record 720p video with an updated camera.
Hitting all these points will solidify the marketing of this iPhone as "HD". Add a lower res front facing camera for video conferencing and Apple will wipe the floor with its competitors once again.
Regarding the screen, I just recently purchased a Sony DSC-T900 p&s camera. It has a beautiful 912K pixel 3.5" screen that's almost identical in size and aspect ratio to the iPhones existing screen.
Hitting all these points will solidify the marketing of this iPhone as "HD". Add a lower res front facing camera for video conferencing and Apple will wipe the floor with its competitors once again.
Regarding the screen, I just recently purchased a Sony DSC-T900 p&s camera. It has a beautiful 912K pixel 3.5" screen that's almost identical in size and aspect ratio to the iPhones existing screen.
Nice feature, sounds good! I'm sure Apple could do something breakthrough with this. Hope this goes to the iPod touch as well.
Agreed here, "iPhone HD" is a nice marketing term. Of course with the iPhone2,2 and iPhone3,1 (and corresponding iPod touch numbers), they could have an "iPhone" and an "iPhone HD." I'd expect the iPhone HD to have 720x480 resolution, 2x RAM, more storage, and faster CPU. I also think the mini-tablet would have even higher specs than the iPod/iPhone HD.
Out of curiosity, do we think Apple would actually announce this device as the iPhone HD? I was thinking more along the lines of the iPhone AV. For some reason that seems more unique and less focused.
Well it's been said but the quality is all about the lens and has nothing to do with the megapixels.
My 2MP camera on my phone shoots 1600x1200 resolution. But that doesn't make it HD quality.
Also the flip Ultra HD 8Gb records 120minutes of video at 720p. So the iphone would have the space in theory to hold quite a large amount of footage if they were able to do this the same as flip. That, combined with that rumored HD/SD combo video output would make quite an upgrade for this June's iPhone. Minor editing features would be nice, like cut out footage and maybe a fade in fade out type thing, but beyond that, I don't see people doing much. Though the battery life really worries me.
You'd think so but on a recent roadtrip to NYC I had my Cannon but it never made it out of my bag, the iphone was so small and convenient I used it for all my photos. Same thing will happen with video, convenience will win out over quality for most things.
I realize how important or how cool some off these ideas may be, especially the HD possibility, but to be honest I am still more excited about never visiting www.viewmymessage.com ever again.
I've had the iPhone now for a little over the year and I'm still discovering new features.
For instance, were you aware that you can make phone calls on the thing -- wow, who would have thunk?
Any chance Apple could introduce a five grill burner on it? My kitchen could certainly use an upgrade.
For instance, were you aware that you can make phone calls on the thing -- wow, who would have thunk?
Any chance Apple could introduce a five grill burner on it? My kitchen could certainly use an upgrade.
I think they'll just call it iPhone 3.0
So anyways.. one person says iPhone HD and now everyONE is talking about how it may incorporate HD recording. My guess is that the entire purpose of this feature is to be able to upload videos to YouTube on the fly and you are given the option to trim the video to your liking. This won't be FCP here guys, it's just going to be extremely basic.
But yeah.. the iPhone can barely do HD playback (screen resolution and processor) and you guys are expecting it to record and edit? Even if they put better technology into the new iPhone (which they will), it will have to be something really big because HD content isn't easy to edit, record.. maybe. My MacBook sometimes has trouble with some HD content in Final Cut, I can't imagine how horrible it would be on an tiny little iPhone.
And I'd like to add one more thing, people wanted a camera in phones, they got a camera. People wanted the internet, they got the internet. Now people want an HD camcorder?
It's a damn phone.
If it dosen't ship with it, there'll be a whole flock of third party video editors comming out. Maybe apple will make "Final Cut Pro Mobile"
Hmmm... probably not They need an iPhoto app too though... and Aperture.... maybe iMovie Mobile isn't too likelySG
Uh, oh. This may lead to a surge in "sexting." How long before AAPL gets sued?
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I think you'll find that if any significant video editing is added, it'll require a hardware bump. I don't feel my first gen iPhone 8GB is up to the task.
That said, as someone else said - if I want to do any actual video editing beyond clipping and perhaps adding a simple title, then I'll use my Mac.
That said, as someone else said - if I want to do any actual video editing beyond clipping and perhaps adding a simple title, then I'll use my Mac.
This sounds great. So often our kid is doing something funny/humorous/ridiculous, and I'm bummed I don't have a video camera handy in order to record what she's doing. Something like this in the iPhone will be perfect until we're able to get a full-fledged video camera once she's in school and doing stuff there.
To echo other folks, can't wait until June!
To echo other folks, can't wait until June!
You have to excuse me, I am a real noob about video!!!!
Yes the lens has a lot to do with it just like in an SLR, if the lens can not resolve it, a nicer sensor is a waste of money. Also the ability to focus has a lot to do with it also as recording out of focus images is a complete waste of time and effort regarless of megapixels.
But for a moment lets assume the lens can resolve nicely for a 720P image and that the target remains in focus for the duration of the take.....
When someone specify a particular megapixel, does that number refer to pixels that capture all 3 colors simultaneously or to single color pixels that then need to be divided by 3 to represent the colors and actual megapixel count? I assume the pixels can capture all 3 colors at once but I could be wrong.
If true 720P resolution is 720 x 1280, then that requires 921,600 pixels at 1 bit color resolution. If we go to 8 bits per color (very crappy color) then that requires 7,372,800 bits to represent. If the color depth is 10 bits then it requires 9,216,000 bits. At 12 bits color depth (very reasonable color) it requires 11,059,200 bits or 1,382,400 bytes which sounds like the current camera could possibly represent. This is assuming on my part that each pixel in the sensor has a sensing cell for each of the 3 colors. Following that logic (right or wrong since I am out of my area) then 24 frames per second would require storage in memory in the order of 33,177,600 bytes per second of video (without compression).
AM I far off on this and if so where am I going wrong?
but to be honest I am still more excited about never visiting www.viewmymessage.com ever again.
This x 1000.
Stop bashing the rumor....
People, please stop saying this is a bad thing and Apple is behind in the game. Here's why:
1.) Yes, phones can already take video and send it. The new iPhone will do the same, but allow you to make SMALL edits, send it to others, AND upload directly to youtube or Facebook. KEY WORD: EASILY.
2.) Don't make it out to be bigger than it is. It is just ONE of many updates.
3.) If you don't like it, don't' use it, but don't say it is worthless. I'm a teacher, and I can tell you students will use this ALL the time. I myself cannot believe how much they text and go on Facebook and YouTube. This is things are headed.
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People, please stop saying this is a bad thing and Apple is behind in the game. Here's why:
1.) Yes, phones can already take video and send it. The new iPhone will do the same, but allow you to make SMALL edits, send it to others, AND upload directly to youtube or Facebook. KEY WORD: EASILY.
2.) Don't make it out to be bigger than it is. It is just ONE of many updates.
3.) If you don't like it, don't' use it, but don't say it is worthless. I'm a teacher, and I can tell you students will use this ALL the time. I myself cannot believe how much they text and go on Facebook and YouTube. This is things are headed.
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Jobs kinda told people early on it was more than just a phone. They could push some features into the Touch if they wanted and bring them into iPhone more in the 4th generation iPhone.
Why does video editing, manipulation, or viewing have to be basic at all? Compare the leaked OS 3.0 native Apple app for sound recording to what you can do with the audio input in apps today.
Do we have any real data on what processor power is needed to do some basic editing? Heck, it's cut copy and paste in the video world - how long could that take Apple?
Reminds me of this thread on the possible sensor/optics - you need (auto)focus, not too much camera shake effects, minimisation of problems from the sensor type (CCD etc). Apple rumored to be moving from Aptina (formerly Micron Imaging/technology) to Omnivision if I remember rightly (and they can bring focus solutions to the table - http://www.ovt.com/products/truefocus.php )
The way the rumor sets it out it seems the 5Mpixel sensor isn't so much explicitly for an iPhone, as for a separate product.
What we'll see on the old iPhone, current iPhone 3G, and future Touch and iPhones may well be different. Apple might draw a line in the sand regarding this, as they might say it needs hardware we currently don't have to do it, and that they won't do video through the current iPhone 3G sensor for example. Have the Touch as being a potential Flip rival, bump the iPhone.
Makes sense for Apple to lay down some hardware they work on software afterwards to an extent.
Why does video editing, manipulation, or viewing have to be basic at all? Compare the leaked OS 3.0 native Apple app for sound recording to what you can do with the audio input in apps today.
Do we have any real data on what processor power is needed to do some basic editing? Heck, it's cut copy and paste in the video world - how long could that take Apple?
Reminds me of this thread on the possible sensor/optics - you need (auto)focus, not too much camera shake effects, minimisation of problems from the sensor type (CCD etc). Apple rumored to be moving from Aptina (formerly Micron Imaging/technology) to Omnivision if I remember rightly (and they can bring focus solutions to the table - http://www.ovt.com/products/truefocus.php )
The way the rumor sets it out it seems the 5Mpixel sensor isn't so much explicitly for an iPhone, as for a separate product.
What we'll see on the old iPhone, current iPhone 3G, and future Touch and iPhones may well be different. Apple might draw a line in the sand regarding this, as they might say it needs hardware we currently don't have to do it, and that they won't do video through the current iPhone 3G sensor for example. Have the Touch as being a potential Flip rival, bump the iPhone.
Makes sense for Apple to lay down some hardware they work on software afterwards to an extent.
Cool. One more reason I'm happy I've waited this long to buy an iPhone. w00t!
BTW - I guess this blow the argument out of the water that the old iPhones cannot support video because of read/write limitations of NAND Flash?
BTW - I guess this blow the argument out of the water that the old iPhones cannot support video because of read/write limitations of NAND Flash?
I think they'll just call it iPhone 3.0
So anyways.. one person says iPhone HD and now everyONE is talking about how it may incorporate HD recording. My guess is that the entire purpose of this feature is to be able to upload videos to YouTube on the fly and you are given the option to trim the video to your liking. This won't be FCP here guys, it's just going to be extremely basic.
But yeah.. the iPhone can barely do HD playback (screen resolution and processor) and you guys are expecting it to record and edit? Even if they put better technology into the new iPhone (which they will), it will have to be something really big because HD content isn't easy to edit, record.. maybe. My MacBook sometimes has trouble with some HD content in Final Cut, I can't imagine how horrible it would be on an tiny little iPhone.
And I'd like to add one more thing, people wanted a camera in phones, they got a camera. People wanted the internet, they got the internet. Now people want an HD camcorder?
I think this feature will be new hardware only. Thats almost obvious to me. Please keep in mind, iPhone hardware is basically 2+ years old at this point. Great strides in computational power and video compression/decompression have been made in that time. Pair it with a high res screen, the capability to transfer HD iTunes content at native resolution, and the badge "HD" fits soo nicely. It's a traditional smart Apple marketing move.
As a side note, if you really think the iPhone is just "a damn phone", then you are missing the point entirely. Sure the name does help with perpetuating this myth, but it's really like saying, "My computer plays movies!? I can make phone calls with my computer!? It's a damn computer!" The iPhone is, and always will be, a mobile, multi-purpose computing platform. Get used to it.
iMovie Video Stabilization for phone videos?
I wouldn't be surprised to see video recording on the new iPhone along with basic clip editing. I'm not sure that it would be as good at the kind of video editing you see in iMovie.
That being said, the first thing I thought of when I saw the new iMovie's video stabilization feature was phone video. Phones tend to take pretty shaky video because of their size and shape. I doubt the iPhone would be much different than other phones or the Flip in that regard. iMovie helps smooth out rough video pretty well now. Maybe they were laying the groundwork for iPhone videos.
I wonder if you'd still have to import iPhone video into iMovie to get the video stabilization or if it would be a feature that you could apply to video directly on the phone.
I wouldn't be surprised to see video recording on the new iPhone along with basic clip editing. I'm not sure that it would be as good at the kind of video editing you see in iMovie.
That being said, the first thing I thought of when I saw the new iMovie's video stabilization feature was phone video. Phones tend to take pretty shaky video because of their size and shape. I doubt the iPhone would be much different than other phones or the Flip in that regard. iMovie helps smooth out rough video pretty well now. Maybe they were laying the groundwork for iPhone videos.
I wonder if you'd still have to import iPhone video into iMovie to get the video stabilization or if it would be a feature that you could apply to video directly on the phone.
yea. i enjoy taking fun movies of things then using imovie. if my iphone was a flip life would be sick.