Next iPhone to Easily Record, Edit and Share Movies?

[Gregintosh]

If only there was an iphone that could run full OS so we could use pro apps.

Are you kidding??? (I hope you are) You'd wanna run Final Cut Pro or something on a 3.5" inch screen? Gimme a break. That's like having a web designer create a website on his PDA or a writer create a whole book on a blackberry. Ridiculous.

This thing will be fine for putting together little YouTube quality videos on the fly, if even that. iMovie portable, or whatever they make for video editing, will have a few basic functions, no doubt some neat stuff, and a few predefined templates. It's going to be designed for easy and quick use on the Fly.

No one is going to spend 2 hours (or for that matter, any amount of time above 5 minutes) editing a video on a 3.5" screen. For that, you'll have to transfer it to your computer and edit it on your mac with the full desktop iMovie, or if you wish Final Cut or something (though I doubt the quality from an itty bitty camera is going to be worthy of a pro project).

 

[DELLsFan]

Video! Bring it on! Is it June yet?

 

[yegon]

Good good good, I'm not in the least bit interested in any of the touted features so far. Only a bump to 64gb would seriously tempt me in upgrading my 3G.

This isn't an attack on the new phone, not at all, it just means I won't be desperate for an upgrade while I'm still under contract, making my life simpler and cheaper

 

[niuniu]

I'd be very interested in a simple ans easy to use movie editor for the new iPhone. Something where I can at least cut out sections that I don't want...

 

[rtdunham]

it's still embarrassingly late. Engadget, writing about the new motorola i465, apologized for its having "only VGA video": "... (hey, it's low-end, what did you expect?)"

so they're making excuses for VGA-quality video on a low end camera. Puts the iPhone's present video capabilities in perspective, doesn't it.

 

[MIDI_EVIL]

Can we say 'Video' and not movies? Movie has a totally different connotation to video.

 

[sigamy]

Apple is still carrying a torch for video editing, even though they've realized that most users simply never edit their video.

Most people over 40 would never consider editing home movies. They are fine with popping in tape after tape and manually searching for "the good part".

I'm not in that crowd as I love iMovie and creating nice family DVDs and a few short films.

The popularity of the little YouTube cams like the Flip have shown Apple that there is another user base out there (mainly young people) who want to shoot little clips and share those.

This is a much different user base than the traditional iMovie/Final Cut Express users that Apple has tried to serve. Apple for years has served the folks who shoot hours of video, import, edit, add effects, titles, and then create a DVD or upload to .Mac.

They now see an opportunity with the Youtube crowd and I think this could be big. If they throw a decent camera in the iPhone and bump up the storage they can basically kill the Flip Mino.

When you add a small iMovie app to the mix...now this is killer. All this app has to do is very simple cut and paste and maybe some titles. Users will just want to cut out those 10 seconds when they were shooting the floor or something. Combine this with upload to Youtube, Facebook, MobileMe and a few other sites and you have a real nice new feature set for the iPhone.

iMovie's new interface seems custom made for touch control. They probably had this in mind all along.

Imagine all the citizen journalists uploading news reports to CNN's iReport "live from the scene".

 

[skinnylegs]

well established feature on virtually every other smartphone out there both in terms of video recording and onboard editing software so a game changer it isn't

Guys like you just don't get it.

Yeah....every other smartphone, and I use that term loosely, has these features but my experience has been that the UI is ass-ugly and the apps. are unintuitive and downright confusing at times making them geek-friendly but not very appealing to the average person.

Numbers don't lie and given the fact that the iPhone is the best-selling smartphone, it becomes painfully (to guys like you) obvious that most people are willing to wait for a few features if it means a better overall experience.

 

[skinnylegs]

Apple is still carrying a torch for video editing, even though they've realized that most users simply never edit their video.

Most people over 40 would never consider editing home movies. They are fine with popping in tape after tape and manually searching for "the good part".

Hey now! Those are fighting words! I'm 49 years old I edit every single one of my home videos! LOL

 

[flipperanubi]

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[Lesser Evets]

Apple is still carrying a torch for video editing, even though they've realized that most users simply never edit their video.

Most people over 40 would never consider editing home movies. They are fine with popping in tape after tape and manually searching for "the good part".

I've never read so much BS in my entire time on this forum. That's a lot of BS you triumphed over.

 

[W1LLk]

Hey now! Those are fighting words! I'm 49 years old I edit every single one of my home videos! LOL

I just think he doesn't realize the generation he referring to is in their late 50's or early 60's by now.

 

[str1f3]

I would like to see the rest of the iLife suite imported as well.

My wishlist for iLife Mobile:

iMovie- editing, transitions, titles, credits, effects

iPhoto- minor image editing such as red-eye, contrast, brightness, effects (like sepia & b/w)

iWeb-ability to post to iWeb site through iPhone

Garageband- minor sound editing app with effects & loops (access to mp3/aac to create new edits to existing songs)

 

[GottaLoveApple4]

Youtube is going to explode when this comes out...

 

[Stately]

Are you kidding??? (I hope you are) You'd wanna run Final Cut Pro or something on a 3.5" inch screen? Gimme a break. That's like having a web designer create a website on his PDA or a writer create a whole book on a blackberry. Ridiculous.

This thing will be fine for putting together little YouTube quality videos on the fly, if even that. iMovie portable, or whatever they make for video editing, will have a few basic functions, no doubt some neat stuff, and a few predefined templates. It's going to be designed for easy and quick use on the Fly.

No one is going to spend 2 hours (or for that matter, any amount of time above 5 minutes) editing a video on a 3.5" screen. For that, you'll have to transfer it to your computer and edit it on your mac with the full desktop iMovie, or if you wish Final Cut or something (though I doubt the quality from an itty bitty camera is going to be worthy of a pro project).

Sorry, I actually meant to reference the famed tablet there, not the upcoming iphone. Yes, I think it would be just fine for editing work on a tablet whose screen size was roughly 5"H x 6" W. As far as minor editing for little videos taken with the phone itself why not though? If you take another look at my post you will see that I said to use a pro camera for the work, the tablet for the editing in reference to what you said about the camera on an iphone not holding up.

 

[sslanchi]

More than anything else, I wish the new iPhone would have a camera on the front for video calls. Is this feature looking to be unlikely?

 

[akm3]

For taking video....OK.


Editing? No thanks. I'd rather use one of those computers Apple sells for editing. Any editing you can do on an iPhone would be pretty lame anyway.


Why not add features that would actually be great, like a better sensor, better flash, or slightly higher pixel count (but not too high).

I don't know, the iMovie 08+ interface seems really well suited to a touch interface - certainly more than an Imovie HD interface was.

 

[bushido]

i just love how everyone is so happy about the possibility of MMS, Copy&Past and Video on the new iPhone when every other 150 $ can do it just fine more or less and apple spins it once again like its the new best thing ... but i aint complaining i got a iPhone 3G myself and before u argue that video recording on phones has been **** so far, lets see what apple comes up with and the current Nokia N-Series line can do it just fine (vids look at least better then on my 1 year old Sony digicam)

 

[Eso]

Has everyone already forgotten that Apple said the current iPhones can not due video due to the "limitations of NAND flash write cycles"? How many millions of what type of memory did they recently order? Hrm...

I'm not saying the new iPhone won't have video, just that Apple = lame.

 

[drewsky5]

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Has everyone already forgotten that Apple said the current iPhones can not due video due to the "limitations of NAND flash write cycles"? How many millions of what type of memory did they recently order? Hrm...

I'm not saying the new iPhone won't have video, just that Apple = lame.

I'm pretty sure that they were talking about the specific kind of NAND flash that is in the current iPhone and iPhone 3G, not the NAND flash memory in general

 

[drewsky5]

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Has everyone already forgotten that Apple said the current iPhones can not due video due to the "limitations of NAND flash write cycles"? How many millions of what type of memory did they recently order? Hrm...

I'm not saying the new iPhone won't have video, just that Apple = lame.

I'm pretty sure that they were talking about the specific kind of NAND flash that is in the current iPhone and iPhone 3G, not the NAND flash memory in general

 

[hypermark]

This makes perfect sense. In fact, I theorized that Apple might look to add "camera re-invention" as another one of their disruptor job targets within iPhone/iPod touch, in my post:

iPhones, App Stores and Ecosystems
(http://bit.ly/Hre72)

EXCERPT: What if Apple decided to reinvent the digital camera as a smart, connected, programmable device? It would certainly sync up with some of the features they have recently baked into iLife, such as facial recognition and geocoding of photos.

The main thought process here is that the Flip Video cameras (recently acquired by Cisco) have proven that there is a real market for pocket sized video cameras. If you overlay that goodness on the whole iPhone platform play, what type of software value add might developers plug in on the software front?

Food for thought.

Mark
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READ - PC 1.0, iPhone 3.0 and the Woz: Everything Old is New
(http://bit.ly/7hLJY)

 

[MadMacxxx]

And with enough memory to easily store up to a few hours of video this will be a game changer. It could almost stand on its own as a video device, let alone one with WiFi and BT and cell phone connectivity built in.

Can't wait for June.

+1

8th-12th!

 

[kdarling]

And with enough memory to easily store up to a few hours of video this will be a game changer.

Yeah, we'll be flooded with even more useless videos

Seriously, the Samsung Omnia has video editing and movie makers. That's the Symbian version I think. There's also a Windows Movie Maker thingie for the WM model.

The next step up, the Omnia HD, can take HD movies, and do some light editing.

And of course, with swappable 8/16 GB chips, it can do some serious movie taking without having to run back to a computer to off-load.

 

[powers74]

Flash

Even better than a flash would be a sensor that could take decent pictures in low light....

I don't really like pics using a flash...

And I'd rather longer battery life than a removable battery in a thicker iPhone.

NEED TO HAVE FLASH ON THE IPHONE!!!!

No, really, I have a Canon SD950 iS - Never use the flash. Pics always look tacky. If it's low light, you're going to need a long exposure & tripod on even the best of cameras or it'll look s#!tty.