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I remember reading that Samsung combine the NFC chips in the battery and the back case HAS to be plastic.

So I think that rules out glass, don't know about metal
 
I really hope the battery doesn't get smaller over making it "thinner". The iPhone is already thin, I just want improvement to battery life.

Apple favors design above almost anything else.

Increasing the size of the battery isn't the only way to improve battery life people.

Just because the technology is improved doesn't mean that the battery can be made larger too. If they do both, we'd get a lot better battery life instead of just the same.
 
They aren't going to throw in a fifth resolution with an entirely new aspect ratio.

Maybe they will, maybe they won't. This is all rumors at this point.

COMBINED with the fact it would bork every App....should lead you to disregard the long phone rumor.

It wouldn't break anything though. Letterboxing != broken. That's how they do phone apps on iPad already.

The choice is yours, but seems a little implausible. :)

The choice is Apple's, not mine to make.
 
A) Thank you for answering his question by being a condescending *****.

B) If 3.5 inches is too small for you, do me a favour and consider doing the following:

C /1) Get your eyes checked
D /2) Buy an iPad
E /3) Buy a Samsung with said screen size

F) I don't want my pockets ripping at the seams trying to contain a 4.8 inch behemoth of a phone.
a) You're welcome, too bad you have to resort to calling names, it makes you look immature.

b) My preferences are not based on your values

c) My eyes are 20/20 as of two months ago.

d) I have an iPad 2, and an iPad 3, these are tablets not smartphones, you may or may not be aware of this difference.

e) I do have a fresh new Galaxy S III _as_well_ as my iPhone 4S.

Excuse me? A Behemoth of a phone... that's laughable.

It's apparent you have no clue. Let me help you out.

See the FACTS below:

136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6 mm Galaxy S III 4.8" display
115.2 x 58.6 x 9.3 mm iPhone 4S 3.5" display

Galaxy S III a mere 12mm wider (less than 1/2")
And a very modest 21.4mm taller (less than 1.0")

f) If that minor difference rips your pants, you have far more serious problems than your choice of phones.

Cheers :)
 
Metal back

Always preferred the feel and practicality of the 1st iphone.
Despite the obvious improvements, the glass back was always dumb.
Eventually, Apple should continue to look to the unibody technology of their laptops for a sleek, strong enclosure for the iphone
 
I don't understand why everybody is dying for a battery that lasts longer..!?!
Doesn't it last you the day? If so, wouldn't a longer-lasting battery mean that the phone would die in the middle of the other day, when you're most likely out somewhere, not in measure to charge it?
To have a significant longer-lasting battery, it would have to be double the capacity, to last two days, which is not very likely.
 
Does that mean if the screen cracks then both the lcd and the touch screen are broken cause now if you crack your screen the touch panel still works.

It should still work. The touch panel has been moved a layer down, into the display itself.
 
Hmm so this sounds like they're implementing Samsung's SAMOLED technology into LCD. Very interesting indeed.

I think it's a testament to apple that they are always putting innovation in their products. A lot of other companies just use industry norms for the innerds and the looks of their products. Apple's agenda might just be to be able to market it as the "thinnest phone ever", but they found an innovative way to make it that way.

doesn't sound so innovative to me
 
I'll take you back to the original leaks of the "long phone" and remind you of the glass that was with the case. Why would there be separate glass that wasn't fused to the LCD screen?

In-cell does not mean that the LCD screen is fused to the glass. It means that the touch sensor panel is combined into the LCD panel.
 
Will Apple finally be able to stop the increasing dominance of Android? I doubt it considering Apple are normally 2-3 generations behind the top Android devices.

Hahah you're so dumb.
Apple doesn't need to stop the "android" dominance, because it's impossible considering android is selling on numerous models from HTC, Samsung, Motorola, and whatever other little phone makers there are... That's hundreds of phones VS two, and then 3 iPhone models,
So considering apple held it off for a while, and are still not too far behind, it shows exactly how strong and popular the iPhone really is.
 
Older iPhones will still be available for those who do not want a bigger screen.
Remember, you have the power of choice to buy what meets your requirements.

Couldn't the same apply to you? If you want a bigger screen, buy an Android.
 
Is this an IGZO display? or something different?

Not it'll be like the iP4 and use an IPS LTPS screen.

I think they should use 120% of the thickness savings for an increase in the battery. LTE is a battery hog.

It's interesting that it's hard to find the power consumption numbers for LTE chipsets like the Qualcomm MDM9615. It will be better than current hardware which is a good thing.

But it certainly does work.

I suspect Apple will do both. If the phone is larger they can squeeze in a couple of hundred mAh but most of the battery life improvements will be made in component choices and smarter power management.
 
d) I have an iPad 2, and an iPad 3, these are tablets not smartphones, you may or may not be aware of this difference.

e) I do have a fresh new Galaxy S III _as_well_ as my iPhone 4S.

Excuse me? A Behemoth of a phone... that's laughable.

It's apparent you have no clue. Let me help you out.

See the FACTS below:

136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6 mm Galaxy S III 4.8" display
115.2 x 58.6 x 9.3 mm iPhone 4S 3.5" display

Galaxy S III a mere 12mm wider (less than 1/2")
And a very modest 21.4mm taller (less than 1.0")

f) If that minor difference rips your pants, you have far more serious problems than your choice of phones.

Cheers :)

Are you serious? Refer to the attached image:

http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/iphone-vs-Samsung-galaxy-S31.jpg

That is QUITE a large difference in the sizes of the phones. In a phone that's 115 mm tall, a 21.4 mm difference is quite large!

What differentiates a phone from a tablet? The only real difference is A) size and B) cellular networking

With "phones" like the Samsung Galaxy Note, those lines are being blurred even more. Refer to the following image:

http://www.cellularism.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/samsung-galaxynote-vs-iPhone4.jpg

So in summary, I'll stick to my original argument. I do NOT want Apple to partake in the screen size warfare and would rather they improved processing, battery, overall design and software.
 
I don't understand why everybody is dying for a battery that lasts longer..!?!
Doesn't it last you the day? If so, wouldn't a longer-lasting battery mean that the phone would die in the middle of the other day, when you're most likely out somewhere, not in measure to charge it?
To have a significant longer-lasting battery, it would have to be double the capacity, to last two days, which is not very likely.

No it doesn't last a day and I would charge it at night even if it wasn't close to being empty.
 
But, no screen hike=no upgrade.

I feel the opposite. I prefer the current size of the screen. As such, I used one of my upgrades last week to get a 4s just in case they do in fact increase the screen size and possibly lengthen the device. Should the overall length of the device remain the same, then I'll just use another upgrade and my mother will get my 4s just like she's getting my 4 this week.

I am fine with a screen size increase as long as it doesn't compromise the compact size factor of the phone. I figure I'm covered on both sides of the outcome with multiple upgrades available. ^^
 
Has anyone ever been into the Apple store and looked at the modified iPhones that the employees use to scan a bar code and charge card to complete a purchase? They are thicker than the consumer iPhone and have a curved back to them that rests in the hand well. They also have a big enough battery that the charge lasts all day (according to the employees I have asked about it). (If you have not, you really should take a look at those things next time you go to the Apple store.)

When is Apple going to wake up and provide a more useful phone rather than challenging the absurdity of making the device thinner and more slippery so that the use of a case is all but mandatory so that it does not slip out of the user's hand so easily...aside from needing protection for those "oops" occasions which can easily result in expensive damage.

I have no qualms about using a newer technology touch screen which probably reduces cost and could provide a tiny bit of increased internal volume, but come on Apple, make a more ergonomic device that has a greater capacity battery.
 
It's interesting that it's hard to find the power consumption numbers for LTE chipsets like the Qualcomm MDM9615. It will be better than current hardware which is a good thing.
Power consumption for current features will be better due to better power saving algorithims, new software routines and die shrink. LTE is a new feature which was not even possible at all in an iDevice largely to the substantially higher power consumption of the technology inherently.

All those advances combined only makes LTE barely possible in an Apple ecosystem. It in no way improves battery life. It hurts it. I simply have been advocating increasing battery capacity fairly substantially and forsake a bit of "thinness'. The fact iPad3 went this route gives me hope iPhone5 may as well.

If not, people like me will simply wait for iPhone 5S or whatever, and hold our breath for the inclusion of Li-Air battery technology.

Rocketman
 
uuuhhhhhh???? :rolleyes: yeh we did.

There is no vote down button. We have always had no vote down button.

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The iPhone 5 will likely use a new A5 CPU variant built on 32nm lithography with reduced power consumption compared to the 4S. This means it should be able to get the same or better battery life than the 4S, even if the battery is slightly smaller.

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A 16:9 screen with the same pixel density and horizontal pixel count would actually make things pretty easy for developers. Most well-written apps using standard UIs should just work, taking advantage of the extra vertical space with little or no modification.

Sssssshhh! Such things should not be spoken of. We are all one happy community here. There is no room for negativity or dissent.

It's gone, get use to having to reply to comments instead of hiding behind it. Now, what prompted this comment ? What do you disagree with and while you post to say you disagree, why not tell us why ?

You know... use the discussion forum to actually discuss ?

I disagree with this comment.


We can not judge iphone 5 battery before first reviews are out.
In the meantime Galaxy Note 2 will be out with a better battery life for sure.
Battery management software plays a role too!

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I can not down vote this one ;)

I just cant see why we can up vote something but not down vote. Thats so p.c (the irony)

And ironically, comments like this are the very reason we need down-vote buttons again.

What do we want? We want it now!!!!

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