Aside from a slightly larger size, are there not some advantages to USB-C vs Lightning?
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Next iPhone to have USB-C? (merged)
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I don't even understand why it matters, a better question is, will the next iPhone have a cable with USB C on one end. The Apple watch does not have USB charging at all so I'm not sure why that would upset you either. Both the Apple watch and iPhones have USB type A on the charger end and not USB type C as there is only 1 product in the world which which is not compatible. If the Apple watch only had USB type C, there would millions upon millions of computers and chargers that would be incompatible with it vs the compatibility with 1 product.
If the 2016 Macs all I USB type C, I could see Apple including USB C cables for the Watch and iPhones. As for moving from lightning, that will depend if Apple wants to make compromise the the thickness of the iPhone.
I agree with the many posts in this thread that no USB C port on the iPhone for as long as Apple can put it off - due to the size of the connector.
We also have to factor in the internal space that the connector consumes. Anyone know how the internal USB C port compares in size (internally) to the Lightning connector?
We also have to factor in the internal space that the connector consumes. Anyone know how the internal USB C port compares in size (internally) to the Lightning connector?
people usb C is not coming to the iphone anytime soon. also someone mentioned it maybe thicker. now to have usb c on the other end like a female part vs the male part on macbook is a possibility.
Price of have cutting edge technology. I ordered a watch and it is still not here!
Lightning cable to the 6S for sure and likely the 7.
I think apple would actually have to make the 7 thicker to fit the USB-C socket in it.
SUits me, enough with the thin!
With the mix of devices we own there is already the hassle of having a mix of 30-pin and lightning cables all over the house, in the car, and for traveling. The last thing I want is another cable. As it is I'm not excited about the next iPhone. I've had almost every iPhone since the original and its reached the point of severely diminished returns. I'm perfectly happy with the 5S. If the next phone came with a USB-C I'd use my carrier subsidy to buy it at a discount on launch day and sell it for a nice profit on craigslist.
The hypothetical fallout should iPhones switch from lightning to USB-C as this thread queries
I don't think that Including an adaptor would be considered an acceptable solution, as the EU directive was to ensure that all phone chargers used the same connection. Adding a adaptor would not meet the requirements of the directive. Which in itself would not meet subsequent laws enacted to each state of the EU.
Hmm interesting. Technically, it would still be micro USB. The iPhone would still use a USB cable and universal wall charger that can be used with every other phone. I'll be curious to see what happens.
It's kind of funny, they mandate this but how many different styles of electrical plugs are in use in the EU?
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Not really. USB-C is USB 3 and Lightning is USB 2.
Per Phil Schiller, the memory in the iPhone can't handle USB 3 speeds so there's no speed advantage.
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Exactly!
Price of have cutting edge technology. I ordered a watch and it is still not here!
Lightning cable to the 6S for sure and likely the 7.
I think apple would actually have to make the 7 thicker to fit the USB-C socket in it.
You do realise USB-C is only a tiny bit bigger than Lightning, right?
Sorry but I use both and the USB-C is a good bit bigger than the lightning connector.
It's significant when you are talking about a 7mm thick phone.
Why it wasn't designed with male end on the cable like Lightning, I'll never understand.
The hypothetical fallout should iPhones switch from lightning to USB-C as this thread queries
If it's just with the switch, then I'm not sure that would result in anything even close to it. The switch to Lightning certainly didn't bring anything like that about, and sales and everything else have been just fine if not even better.
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I'm not necessarily talking about speed advantages but any advantages. Plus we are talking about this being in future iPhones, meaning that what applies to current or past hardware won't necessarily apply in the future.Hmm interesting. Technically, it would still be micro USB. The iPhone would still use a USB cable and universal wall charger that can be used with every other phone. I'll be curious to see what happens.
It's kind of funny, they mandate this but how many different styles of electrical plugs are in use in the EU?
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Not really. USB-C is USB 3 and Lightning is USB 2.
Per Phil Schiller, the memory in the iPhone can't handle USB 3 speeds so there's no speed advantage.
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Exactly!
As they can go with USB-C if that's being pushed as more of a standard (that Apple themselves contributed to quite a bit) and as at least in Europe regulations are starting to take effect in relation to standardized connections.
I think we strayed from the original question.
When will the USB end of the lightning cable be USB-C or phone include an adaptor for USB-C?
Apple will always use proprietary connections (lightning now, 30 pin previously) on the other end for their mobile devices.
Currently USB-C connector on the device would be a step backwards for Apple. It's a standard so they will lose a fortune in accessory sales and license fees. And it's bigger albeit only slightly.
When will the USB end of the lightning cable be USB-C or phone include an adaptor for USB-C?
Apple will always use proprietary connections (lightning now, 30 pin previously) on the other end for their mobile devices.
Currently USB-C connector on the device would be a step backwards for Apple. It's a standard so they will lose a fortune in accessory sales and license fees. And it's bigger albeit only slightly.
That is an interesting question, although doesn't quite seem to be the one that was originally asked (as far as I can interpret the original post).
And while there are certainly reasons for having proprietary connectors there are also reasons against it (especially with increasing regulatory requirement and the like), so it's hard to say that they will "always" use something proprietary.
If Apple releases a suitable wireless charging option I can see them dropping the port altogether in favor of iCloud backup on the iPhone
Other than charging I can't remember the last time (if ever) that I used the Lightning port on the phone.
Other than charging I can't remember the last time (if ever) that I used the Lightning port on the phone.
Hmm after rereading the OP I see I'm probably incorrect.
I do feel Apple will stick with a proprietary connection on the device itself though. Just seems too profitable for them not too.
Plus while USB-C has its benefits none of which are beneficial for an iPhone.
iPhones aren't even using USB 3.0 let alone 3.1 never mind USB-C. There is just no need for the additional expense currently or even in the foreseeable future.
This is something Android devices will have (and not utilize) years before Apple.
I can hear everyone complaining now about how slow wireless charging is.
Even though I backup to the cloud, I still do a hard and complete backup on my computer via iTunes. I am for keeping the port.
An advantage of USB-C is how much power it can deliver: 100W.
That has the potential to shorten iPad charging times (even if it only uses a proportion of the maximum). If it appears on the iPad, it is likely to appear on the iPhone.
That has the potential to shorten iPad charging times (even if it only uses a proportion of the maximum). If it appears on the iPad, it is likely to appear on the iPhone.